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Old 01-17-2004, 04:11 AM   #1
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Paypal has frozen Gammacash account

Recently I received the following from Gammacash:

Hi,

unfortunately, we are unable to send the paypal payment you earned through your account that is part of our Cash Program.

Paypal has just frozen our account (we don't know why yet) and we have no way of sending you your earnings through paypal at this time.
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Old 01-17-2004, 04:12 AM   #2
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Old 01-17-2004, 04:15 AM   #3
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I use epassporte with them, hopefully it will not happen the same ...
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Old 01-17-2004, 04:16 AM   #4
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Recently I received the following from Gammacash:

Hi,

unfortunately, we are unable to send the paypal payment you earned through your account that is part of our Cash Program.

Paypal has just frozen our account (we don't know why yet) and we have no way of sending you your earnings through paypal at this time.
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you know the reason , stop shitting us
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Old 01-17-2004, 04:29 AM   #5
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Old 01-17-2004, 04:32 AM   #6
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you know the reason , stop shitting us
paypal always do everything the wrong way . They never tell any1, they always tell you your fax wasnt received and its impossible to talk to ANY1 who have a brain there . They act like machines just telling you to answer the email . I answered their fucking emails 300 different times in different cases and never got any reply . Anyways they really need to improve their customer services.
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Old 01-17-2004, 04:36 AM   #7
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No..

Paypal randomly freezes accounts all the time.

Really.

The volume might be too much, they might not like someone they sent $39.99 too, who knows.

Paypal sucks ass. Period. It's NOT a reliable means to transfer money, and should be treated as a simple added convience if it works.

I've had both personal and company accounts "frozen" for seemingly zero reason. One was just because I got in $1500+ in one day. WTF? Took weeks to get the money out. Other was we sent more than 2 grand in one day from the company account. That wasn't even against our account patterns so who knows why they decided to do it then.

The chances of this being gammacashes fault are slim to none. Probably something totally retarded like they sent money to an affiliate who turned out to scam someone else. Or really anything.

Of course, they put you through hell trying to get your money back and account turned on too. Usually takes at least a week of constant calling/faxing documents.

I have no love for paypal at all.

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Old 01-17-2004, 04:47 AM   #8
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Remember when paypal was sending reps to get into adult?

How cool that could have been.
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Old 01-17-2004, 06:30 AM   #9
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Old 01-17-2004, 06:30 AM   #10
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There was a recent post from an ex-executive at Paypal - a real eye opener
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Old 01-17-2004, 06:37 AM   #11
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Old 01-17-2004, 06:38 AM   #12
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There was a recent post from an ex-executive at Paypal - a real eye opener
A link would be helpful.

But Paypal's customer service has sucked from day one, and even with all of their supposed upgrades as they started making some money it still sucks balls. Although luckily the one dispute I had was resolved in my favor, anyway, **knock on wood**
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Old 01-17-2004, 06:38 AM   #13
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PayPal doesn't accept any adult biz anymore... so adult companies should stop trying to payout through them is my opinion... ePassporte is way better.
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Old 01-17-2004, 06:46 AM   #14
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paypal is not a way to do business. period.
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Old 01-17-2004, 06:52 AM   #15
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A link would be helpful.

But Paypal's customer service has sucked from day one, and even with all of their supposed upgrades as they started making some money it still sucks balls. Although luckily the one dispute I had was resolved in my favor, anyway, **knock on wood**
Everyone should read this and think about whether or not they should ever use Paypal again.

http://www.paypalsucks.com/forums/sh...29&old_block=0
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Old 01-17-2004, 08:43 AM   #16
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paypal sucks, nuff said.
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Old 01-17-2004, 08:51 AM   #17
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Everyone should read this and think about whether or not they should ever use Paypal again.

http://www.paypalsucks.com/forums/sh...29&old_block=0
That's a interesting read. Rather that guy actually worked for PayPal or not, I have always thought that PayPal was closing down accounts for the same reason he mentioned.
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Old 01-17-2004, 08:57 AM   #18
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PayPal doesn't accept any adult biz anymore... so adult companies should stop trying to payout through them is my opinion... ePassporte is way better.
Thanks at least one of you got it right. Here for everyone is the reason GammaCash were suspended.

PAYPAL STOPPED TAKING ADULT BUSINESS AGES AGO.

We use to take money via Paypal, very swee. Charged under 5%, no hold back, no fraud and no real problems that we could not sort out with customer services who were very helpful. Wish they would come back into Adult.

All you Paypal haters can stick to the 15% less 10%, plus the chance of them going belly up with your money.

Or you could try Probilling.
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Old 01-17-2004, 09:08 AM   #19
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Everyone should read this and think about whether or not they should ever use Paypal again.

http://www.paypalsucks.com/forums/sh...29&old_block=0
I just read this and am confused.

When we opened a Paypal account we had to tell Paypal how much they charged our credit card and this should have been via the credit card statement.

So how can someone with a stolen credit card know this?

Also what he suggets is criminal and if anyone left Paypal they could practically name their own figure as a "Golden Handshake" not be threatened. What are they going to threaten them with? Tell the plice and we will send our cell mate to beat you up.

If this were for real it would put bosses in prison. As usual the same old BS that too many swallow.
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Old 01-17-2004, 09:08 AM   #20
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Has a viable alternative to PayPal for general e-commerce sites ever appeared? All the newer payment people are either country specific (ie nochex is uk only, yowcow dollars only etc) or totally unsuitable for generic e-commerce (e-passporte is a great example). Seems to be that (for non-adult at least) paypal still has the market pretty much sewn up. Nobody else offers the same features so people will continue to use them despite the BS.
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Old 01-17-2004, 09:19 AM   #21
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GammaCash deserved to have their account frozen IMHO. PayPal clearly Stopped all adult processing last year....
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Old 01-17-2004, 09:44 AM   #22
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I just read this and am confused.

When we opened a Paypal account we had to tell Paypal how much they charged our credit card and this should have been via the credit card statement.

So how can someone with a stolen credit card know this?

Also what he suggets is criminal and if anyone left Paypal they could practically name their own figure as a "Golden Handshake" not be threatened. What are they going to threaten them with? Tell the plice and we will send our cell mate to beat you up.

If this were for real it would put bosses in prison. As usual the same old BS that too many swallow.
All you need is the last 4 digits of your SS# and the credit card number to access the automatic card information at the 1-800 number. Hell you can see the balance and transactions online with that information.
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Old 01-17-2004, 09:48 AM   #23
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I read an article in Money magazine (or something similar) about Paypal's problems in this very regard. They have so many damn accounts and they have a system that shuts your account down if there are any anomalies, like the dude above who received $1500 in one day.

The problem isn't shutting your account down, it's how long it takes to get it back up and running again. It's all in the customer service. I swear they have a team of monkeys manning the phones over there. They pick up the phone, scream into your ears for a few seconds, then hang up and fling some poop against the wall. Good luck getting an email answered too. Isn't it kind of surprising though, considering they're an Ebay company, and Ebay is an enormous and well run organization.

In conclusion, Paypal blows.
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GammaCash deserved to have their account frozen IMHO. PayPal clearly Stopped all adult processing last year....
it's about webmaster payments,not processing adult services n' products
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it's about webmaster payments,not processing adult services n' products
The payments are for adult related payments for adult related products and services...
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Old 01-17-2004, 11:14 AM   #27
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Sooner or later they can (and belive me they will) put your account on hold for any reason they whish not just for "adult" biz. If there isn't any reason for you, they are using "We've randomly selected your account" excuse for that.

When that happens, fate of your money (if there is any) and your account will be totaly up to them.

run away from there, FAST!

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Everyone should read this and think about whether or not they should ever use Paypal again.

http://www.paypalsucks.com/forums/sh...29&old_block=0
That post definately made an impact.
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Someone posted this link on our board

http://www.beaverpay.com

Not sure if this was mentioned elsewhere.

Not sold on the non discretion it's name presents.

hmmmm
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Old 01-17-2004, 12:25 PM   #31
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All you need is the last 4 digits of your SS# and the credit card number to access the automatic card information at the 1-800 number. Hell you can see the balance and transactions online with that information.
If your bank only requires that information to release details about your account over the phone or online, I'd suggest switching banks.

Where I work, we require a cardholder to enter their card number, 3 digits of their postal code and their birthdate if they're calling from home. If not, they must also enter the last 4 digits of their home number.

With that information entered correctly, they'll receive their balance, last payment made, payment due date and the amount of the last five transactions posted to their account.

If they wanted to get the Paypal confirmation number, they'd have to speak to a phone agent who would verify name, address and two pieces of information that are not shown on a statement or generally not found on a statement.

And it's even harder to get the information online.
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I use epassporte with them, hopefully it will not happen the same ...
Nope it wont because epassporte kicks ass and paypal is a bunch of thieving cocksuckers.

Long live epassporte. Goodbye paypal..

This is a good message to everyone still using paypal. You may just wake up one day and find the exact same thing happen to you.

Sorry but we have suspended your account and taken all your money to spend. Have a nice day. Paypal
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Nope it wont because epassporte kicks ass and paypal is a bunch of thieving cocksuckers.

Long live epassporte. Goodbye paypal..

This is a good message to everyone still using paypal. You may just wake up one day and find the exact same thing happen to you.

Sorry but we have suspended your account and taken all your money to spend. Have a nice day. Paypal
the only way to use paypal at all is to empty the account every night before going to bed. i wouldn't leave more than $20 bux in there lol.
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All you need is the last 4 digits of your SS# and the credit card number to access the automatic card information at the 1-800 number. Hell you can see the balance and transactions online with that information.
Been a long time since I did it, but I thought they put a 4 digit number into the payees code that had to be quoted back. But we used them for 18 months and had one fraudulent deal. But this is credit crad holders, not marchents who are suspended.

I think it was becasue they were operating at 5% and could not afford to be slip shod like some of the third party processors. Who at 15% can take on the fraudsters. Well not now that Visa has said enough.
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As of 1 minute ago, I am now using epassporte with them too.

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Paypal is really a bunch of thieves I got a bullshit email from them not a long time ago saying that my account was maybe "accessed" by other persons which is a load of bullshit and want me to send them my licences and everything. I'll never use them again.
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Old 01-17-2004, 01:23 PM   #38
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epassporte makes you send an email to get set up or call them wy not have a online form to sign up and get going anyways anyone know what their fees are? yahoo has direct pay or some shit i have but dont use at this time
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I've had a PayPal account ever since they opened. Never had a problem with them.
However I never leave more than $50 in it, with all these horror stories, better not taking any chances...
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