ProBilling - A classic example, yet again, why you need MPA2... - GoFuckYourself.com

OY · 01-16-2004, 05:48 PM

Our industry is hurt every time a processor goes down, so it is not with a light heart I send out this blatant spam for MPA2 - The Mother of All Automation Programs - with CASCADING PROCESSING.

The good news in this sad hour for any ProBilling using sponsor program is that there are still a few very good processing companies out there that still stand.

These are (listed in no particular order):

Epochsystems/Paycom
Jettis
CCBill
2000charge (for debit EU and Korean cards)
IBill

Alternative processing:
for checks
Electracash
WTS (ACHdebit)

Dialers:
NoCreditCards
Goodthinxxx
Profitplantation

Spread your risk boys and girls....

Pornwolf · 01-16-2004, 05:49 PM

Can't really argue with that logic today.

StuartD · 01-16-2004, 05:49 PM

Why does MPA2 have so many bugs in it?

jact · 01-16-2004, 05:50 PM

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Originally posted by MaskedMan
Why does MPA2 have so many bugs in it?

A-Fucking-Men.

OY · 01-16-2004, 06:46 PM

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Originally posted by Pornwolf
Can't really argue with that logic today.

If one kicks the bucket, switch over to the other on the fly... simple, really...

pamphage · 01-16-2004, 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MaskedMan
Why does MPA2 have so many bugs in it?

Oracle Porn · 01-16-2004, 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MaskedMan
Why does MPA2 have so many bugs in it?

The shaving feature is not a bug

BluMedia · 01-16-2004, 06:49 PM

When is the next update?

OY · 01-16-2004, 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BluMedia
When is the next update?

Mark - we are doing the final testing on it right now. Should be available for current customers very shortly.

Here are some of the ADDED features:

1.Geo Tracking ? IP Tracking Script. Tracking which country the surfers originates and therefore, supplying the surfer with the best billing alternative. Especially useful to maximize your Asian and European traffic.

2. Reward system ? A popular loyally program that offers your webmasters with good or services.

3. Fraud control Feature. IP tracking where the mpa2 program will tag a particular webmaster has signed up to the same site or different sites in the program sent by the same IP address. This is especially useful tool to control and reduce webmaster fraud in affiliate programs.

4. Database agnostic ? use any database (Oracle, Sybase, MS SQL, and so on?

5. 2000charge for EU debit and Korean debit cards

6. WTS for check processing

7. Multiple tours option

8. Sub admin login (add other sites to your program and give access to stats belonging to those sites only)

And more?

SoundMan · 01-16-2004, 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MaskedMan
Why does MPA2 have so many bugs in it?

as they ran outa the free sample of "raid"

OY · 01-16-2004, 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BluMedia
When is the next update?

Forgot to tell you, it is FREE upgrade for everyone!

rowan · 01-16-2004, 08:19 PM

I don't see why you need MPA to switch your primary processor - just change the HTML on your join page. Did you guys even support probilling as an option? Spam, spam, spam.

fatbaby · 01-16-2004, 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Oystein
Our industry is hurt every time a processor goes down, so it is not with a light heart I send out this blatant spam for MPA2 - The Mother of All Automation Programs - with CASCADING PROCESSING.

The good news in this sad hour for any ProBilling using sponsor program is that there are still a few very good processing companies out there that still stand.

These are (listed in no particular order):

Epochsystems/Paycom
Jettis
CCBill
2000charge (for debit EU and Korean cards)
IBill

Alternative processing:
for checks
Electracash
WTS (ACHdebit)

Dialers:
NoCreditCards
Goodthinxxx
Profitplantation

Spread your risk boys and girls....

**cough** 123bill.com ;-) It will be part of MPA2 also....

Zprogramz · 01-16-2004, 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Oystein
Our industry is hurt every time a processor goes down, so it is not with a light heart I send out this blatant spam for MPA2 - The Mother of All Automation Programs - with CASCADING PROCESSING.

The good news in this sad hour for any ProBilling using sponsor program is that there are still a few very good processing companies out there that still stand.

These are (listed in no particular order):

Epochsystems/Paycom
Jettis
CCBill
2000charge (for debit EU and Korean cards)
IBill

Alternative processing:
for checks
Electracash
WTS (ACHdebit)

Dialers:
NoCreditCards
Goodthinxxx
Profitplantation

Spread your risk boys and girls....

I thought you suopported Netbilling? They are actually the strongest out there right now as they do not take the risk.

Z

OY · 01-16-2004, 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Zprogramz

I thought you suopported Netbilling? They are actually the strongest out there right now as they do not take the risk.

Z

YES YES YES - Sorry Netbilling - - - - my bad. Of course we do! GREAT processor when using your own merchant account!

fatbaby - Yes, but I only wanted to list the ones that we currently support (of cc processors)

rowan - Good luck with all your affiliates suddenly not getting paid anymore.

Also, we never supported ProBilling - we considered them "not strong enough" for us to put our money on them. We got plenty of requests to add them but chose to not do it.

PS. Off to dinner. Will respond when I get back... Have a nice Friday...

Ray@TastyDollars · 01-16-2004, 09:18 PM

Oystein your a funny guy. You start a post spaming your buggy software, yet when ever some one asks you concerning bugs or shave option built in, you completly ignore that person. Nice PR.

OY · 01-17-2004, 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ray
Oystein your a funny guy. You start a post spaming your buggy software, yet when ever some one asks you concerning bugs or shave option built in, you completly ignore that person. Nice PR.

Ray - if you were a client of mine I would not ignore you.

You are not -

so, you have no idea what you are talking about and more than likely, you are only looking for drama. Drama is for girls (no pun intended here girls, this one is for Ray... the drama queen)

So here you go... drama...

Fatbrain · 01-17-2004, 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Oystein

Ray - if you were a client of mine I would not ignore you.

You are not -

so, you have no idea what you are talking about and more than likely, you are only looking for drama. Drama is for girls (no pun intended here girls, this one is for Ray... the drama queen)

So here you go... drama...

Thing is though, possible and future customers will read this thread...Simply ignoring questions asked is very bad IMHO...But hey, to each their own...I know that I would seriously reconsider purchasing from or using a service where questions are blatantly ignored.

OY · 01-17-2004, 12:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fatbrain

Thing is though, possible and future customers will read this thread...Simply ignoring questions asked is very bad IMHO...But hey, to each their own...I know that I would seriously reconsider purchasing from or using a service where questions are blatantly ignored.

True. To a certain extent.

IF some of these comments made had some substance in them, then I would answer them. I never avoid truth... I do, however, blatantly disregard vague comments.

Steve · 01-17-2004, 12:56 AM

1) I have NEVER gotten any script that didn't have bugs. There is always at least one little bug.

2) Do you think he'd even acknowledge any accusations or allegations of shaving? That is just fucking dumb.

Zprogramz · 01-17-2004, 02:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Oystein

YES YES YES - Sorry Netbilling - - - - my bad. Of course we do! GREAT processor when using your own merchant account!

There is no better combo than Netbilling and CCbill IMO.

Z

monro · 01-17-2004, 02:29 AM

Ezybonds is a new payment processor you all can use in the future. There are no risks whatsoever. The very same minute somenone pays you, you can collect your money. No chargebacks.
All cards, even amarican express. Pincodes supplied. Adult industry welcome!
All it takes is a simple html code on your page.
Please click my sig for more info!

Bansheelinks · 01-17-2004, 02:52 AM

If you put your faith in Probilling its your own fault you will be getting hammered on rebills..........many & varied warnings were given repeatedly about the shakiness of Probilling, not too mention questionably practices and tactics......

they were short termers..........end of story.......end of Probilling

BrentD · 01-17-2004, 03:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Steve
1) I have NEVER gotten any script that didn't have bugs. There is always at least one little bug.

2) Do you think he'd even acknowledge any accusations or allegations of shaving? That is just fucking dumb.

Eaxactly, its not the fact that you will find a bug in scripts, its how fast will the company respond and take care of it right away and offer a bug fix update within a day or two, now when you can egt that kind of service out of a company you got a good product, if they tell you we will fix that in the next release then you better find a new solution, because these type of companies are just too damn lazy to do it now

I have never used MPA2 so I can not comment on it, looks nice and I would probally look more into it if it supported doing your own processing with it through a merchant account instead of just all these 3rd party processors

I have 2 merchant accounts, one being authorize.net, if supported it then it would work for me, since it doesn't it won't hehehe;)

OY · 01-17-2004, 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BrentD

Eaxactly, its not the fact that you will find a bug in scripts, its how fast will the company respond and take care of it right away and offer a bug fix update within a day or two, now when you can egt that kind of service out of a company you got a good product, if they tell you we will fix that in the next release then you better find a new solution, because these type of companies are just too damn lazy to do it now

I have never used MPA2 so I can not comment on it, looks nice and I would probally look more into it if it supported doing your own processing with it through a merchant account instead of just all these 3rd party processors I have 2 merchant accounts, one being authorize.net, if supported it then it would work for me, since it doesn't it won't hehehe;)

As if I said it myself. Now here is the good news for you BrentD - MPA2 has supported using your own merchant account for a long time - Netbilling is used as the gateway with great success for the companies that choose this configuration. This, combined with the new shopping cart that is integrated into MPA2 you can also sell products. (we already have several customers selling products and memberships using their own merchant account and via Netbilling. They all say they love it. A few of them are active GFY posters too.)

So, look again Brent

Zprogramz - Its a great combo.

Bansheelinks - There are just a few good companies that will be left standing. No doubt about that.

***

Equity and integrity - the only thing that matters in this "interesting" industry...

Bansheelinks · 01-17-2004, 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Oystein

Bansheelinks - There are just a few good companies that will be left standing. No doubt about that.

***

Equity and integrity - the only thing that matters in this "interesting" industry...

I agree Oystein, and Probilling is not one of these companies.

Shoplifter · 01-17-2004, 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Steve

2) Do you think he'd even acknowledge any accusations or allegations of shaving? That is just fucking dumb.

No it's not. In fact I don't understand why they can't certify each installation in writing so as to prove there is no potentiality of shaving. Just get the issue totally out of the way.

Maybe get a lawyer to audit the code.

Until that day there is always going to be a question.

Ray@TastyDollars · 01-17-2004, 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Oystein

Ray - if you were a client of mine I would not ignore you.

You are not -

so, you have no idea what you are talking about and more than likely, you are only looking for drama. Drama is for girls (no pun intended here girls, this one is for Ray... the drama queen)

So here you go... drama...

You keep getting funnier. Not a client? LOL, PR is good for client and non clients.

No idea what im talking about? So there is NO shave option built in?

As for bugs, Im not taking about broken images, im taking about serious money loss errors. You wanna talk about how come some webmasters are getting 5-6 chargbacks when they only made 2-3 sales? Wanna talk about how sign ups show up and the vanish?

Wanna talk about how with some programs clicks dont show up?
In fact I have an email here from a sponsor thats sais,

"Can we investigate? I checked that his stats weren?t updating, and I checked using my account with the same result ? the unique wasn?t recorded. It only shows up 1 unique ? which was the click I made from my system."
They tell me that they are still waiting for a resonse form your techies to see wtf happend, 2 weeks and nothing yet...2 weeks!

Im still looking for drama huh? Why dont you all do a search on this spectacular proggy and see how many webmasters are also being drama queens.

So if you wanna spam a board on how great your proggy is, how you take the time and answer some questions first. Instead of resorting to calling people "drama queens", be a man fess up.

DRAMA

besterman · 01-17-2004, 12:43 PM

Why don't you add a panel in the affiliate info for MPA2 they can add bank info and minimum payouts so they can get wires instead of checks?

OY · 01-17-2004, 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by scorpion3600
Why don't you add a panel in the affiliate info for MPA2 they can add bank info and minimum payouts so they can get wires instead of checks?

This is added in the new MPA2 v3

***

Ray - We do have a few clients using MPA2 that need our expertise in setting up everything from their server to the admin settings to ensure that everything work as it is supposed to do. We cannot babysit them all, but we will give the tools necessary to run a successful program. Now IF they dont set for instance the cookies to expire after or before a certain time, then the program will not track correctly. If an affiliate manage to copy and paste the referring URL incorrecly, well, then the program will not track it. Unfortunately there are more of those than we like to admit. We always try to accomodate and teach those in question. And trust me, it is not an easy task. Some "webmasters" tend to be "webmasters" next to doing their regular daytime job as a cashier at their local bank. The symbiose between those two jobs tend to fail in many cases. And no, MPA2 does not have shaving "built into it" - if you want that added, then that it up to you. We dont condone or recommend shaving. Another thing is changes to the credit card processors backends. This happens more often than anyone like. But we always stay on top of it and make the changes for all our customers FOR FREE so that the program can be fully functional at all times - we are not obligated to do this for free, but we do. MPA2 is a killer application that makes webmasters and affiliates LOTS of money due to the fact that we stay on top of things at all times.

And that pretty much sums it up Ray... If you have other concerns - be sure to email them to your sponsor and cc me if you want. We will look into them especially for you and make you the happiest affiliate this industry have ever seen.

Ray@TastyDollars · 01-17-2004, 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Oystein

This is added in the new MPA2 v3

***

Ray - We do have a few clients using MPA2 that need our expertise in setting up everything from their server to the admin settings to ensure that everything work as it is supposed to do. We cannot babysit them all, but we will give the tools necessary to run a successful program. Now IF they dont set for instance the cookies to expire after or before a certain time, then the program will not track correctly. If an affiliate manage to copy and paste the referring URL incorrecly, well, then the program will not track it. Unfortunately there are more of those than we like to admit. We always try to accomodate and teach those in question. And trust me, it is not an easy task. Some "webmasters" tend to be "webmasters" next to doing their regular daytime job as a cashier at their local bank. The symbiose between those two jobs tend to fail in many cases. And no, MPA2 does not have shaving "built into it" - if you want that added, then that it up to you. We dont condone or recommend shaving. Another thing is changes to the credit card processors backends. This happens more often than anyone like. But we always stay on top of it and make the changes for all our customers FOR FREE so that the program can be fully functional at all times - we are not obligated to do this for free, but we do. MPA2 is a killer application that makes webmasters and affiliates LOTS of money due to the fact that we stay on top of things at all times.

And that pretty much sums it up Ray... If you have other concerns - be sure to email them to your sponsor and cc me if you want. We will look into them especially for you and make you the happiest affiliate this industry have ever seen.

Thank you

OY · 01-17-2004, 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by scorpion3600
Why don't you add a panel in the affiliate info for MPA2 they can add bank info and minimum payouts so they can get wires instead of checks?

Trying again - This is added in MPA2 v3

***

Ray - Your welcome...

BrentD · 01-17-2004, 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Oystein

As if I said it myself. Now here is the good news for you BrentD - MPA2 has supported using your own merchant account for a long time - Netbilling is used as the gateway with great success for the companies that choose this configuration. This, combined with the new shopping cart that is integrated into MPA2 you can also sell products. (we already have several customers selling products and memberships using their own merchant account and via Netbilling. They all say they love it. A few of them are active GFY posters too.)

So, look again Brent

Zprogramz - Its a great combo.

Bansheelinks - There are just a few good companies that will be left standing. No doubt about that.

***

Equity and integrity - the only thing that matters in this "interesting" industry...

Let me know when it supports authorize.net and I will look into it thanks

OY · 01-17-2004, 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BrentD

Let me know when it supports authorize.net and I will look into it thanks

v3 of MPA2 will take ANY processor. Cya in a couple of weeks...

PS. We will still only offer three standard ones - any other processor will be supported only and can be used as a supplement.

LadyMischief · 01-17-2004, 05:59 PM

So how much do you have to pay out the ass for support? heh.

OY · 01-17-2004, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by LadyMischief
So how much do you have to pay out the ass for support? heh.

"out of the ass" is not quite correct...

From day one ANYONE buying or renting MPA2 have had FREE support on MPA2.

Don't think you can get it much cheaper than that.

the indigo · 01-17-2004, 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Oystein

v3 of MPA2 will take ANY processor. Cya in a couple of weeks...

PS. We will still only offer three standard ones - any other processor will be supported only and can be used as a supplement.

At what price... I've been told it cost $8,000 to add a new processor...

OY · 01-17-2004, 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by the indigo

At what price... Garry told me it cost $8,000 to add a new processor...

Current version of MPA2 requires heavy backend programming to add a NEW processor. It is about a 2 weeks full programming job, including testing and deploying, so the quote was not far off. Pretty accurate if you ask me. I would have quoted you a few hundered more though... Just because of this comment... hehe.

What processor did you want implemented? Probilling?

And btw, customization and support are two very different things...

Nysus · 01-17-2004, 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by fatbaby

**cough** 123bill.com ;-) It will be part of MPA2 also....

Hehe Brad.

Cheers,
Matt

fsfaz · 01-17-2004, 06:26 PM

Oystein,

Does MPA2 run on our servers and is the source secure? I ask because I see your charging monthly for it.

OY · 01-17-2004, 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by fsfaz
Oystein,

Does MPA2 run on our servers and is the source secure? I ask because I see your charging monthly for it.

MPA2 run on YOUR servers - source code is protected.

This is regardly of whether you buy or rent the software...

toddler · 01-17-2004, 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Oystein

Mark - we are doing the final testing on it right now. Should be available for current customers very shortly.

Here are some of the ADDED features:

1.Geo Tracking ? IP Tracking Script. Tracking which country the surfers originates and therefore, supplying the surfer with the best billing alternative. Especially useful to maximize your Asian and European traffic.

2. Reward system ? A popular loyally program that offers your webmasters with good or services.

3. Fraud control Feature. IP tracking where the mpa2 program will tag a particular webmaster has signed up to the same site or different sites in the program sent by the same IP address. This is especially useful tool to control and reduce webmaster fraud in affiliate programs.

4. Database agnostic ? use any database (Oracle, Sybase, MS SQL, and so on?

5. 2000charge for EU debit and Korean debit cards

6. WTS for check processing

7. Multiple tours option

8. Sub admin login (add other sites to your program and give access to stats belonging to those sites only)

And more?

How are you doing #1 and #3, seeing as that is EASILY spoofed and/or proxied? Using ARIN is not a good answer...

LadyMischief · 01-17-2004, 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Oystein

And btw, customization and support are two very different things...

Does customization include removing the shave module?

rounders · 01-17-2004, 09:44 PM

You notice how Oystein's post number is 666?

Well anyways I got MPA2 now

So damn give me my upgrade.

rounders · 01-17-2004, 09:45 PM

Support is great from Mansion. I love it.

OY · 01-17-2004, 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by toddler

How are you doing #1 and #3, seeing as that is EASILY spoofed and/or proxied? Using ARIN is not a good answer...

If I told you, I'd have to kill you...

LadyMischief - You are off beat here, lady...

necoeds · 01-17-2004, 10:51 PM

Can't wait to see the new version!

MPA2 ROCKS!

Just bought my copy yesterday!

fsfaz · 01-17-2004, 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Oystein

MPA2 run on YOUR servers - source code is protected.

This is regardly of whether you buy or rent the software...

How much do you charge to purchase it then? Hopefully it's resonsonable since I have no intentions of doing anything with it more then checking for bugs or being able to fix them on the fly if needed.

OY · 01-18-2004, 02:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by rounders
You notice how Oystein's post number is 666?

Well anyways I got MPA2 now

So damn give me my upgrade.

Ouioooouuuu...!!!

(as close as I could get to the exorcist) Upgrade about there for you...

rounders -

necoeds - about time mr. vanderslicee!

fsfaz - Show me the money, and I will show you how to make more... Before then, ...............................................

fsfaz · 01-18-2004, 02:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Oystein

Ouioooouuuu...!!! (as close as I could get to the exorcist) Upgrade about there for you...

rounders -

necoeds - about time mr. vanderslicee!

fsfaz - Show me the money, and I will show you how to make more... Before then, ...............................................

Oystein ---- I think we have lunch setup for Monday or Tuesday, no?

01-16-2004, 05:49 PM	#2
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01-16-2004, 06:49 PM	#8
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01-16-2004, 09:18 PM	#16
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01-17-2004, 05:59 PM	#35
LadyMischief Orgasms N Such! Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Oakville, Ontario Posts: 18,135	So how much do you have to pay out the ass for support? heh. __________________ ICQ 3522039 Content Manager - orgasm.com [email protected]

01-17-2004, 10:51 PM	#47
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01-16-2004, 05:48 PM	#1
OY Industry Pioneer Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA/EU/ASIA Posts: 5,401	ProBilling - A classic example, yet again, why you need MPA2... Our industry is hurt every time a processor goes down, so it is not with a light heart I send out this blatant spam for MPA2 - The Mother of All Automation Programs - with CASCADING PROCESSING. The good news in this sad hour for any ProBilling using sponsor program is that there are still a few very good processing companies out there that still stand. These are (listed in no particular order): Epochsystems/Paycom Jettis CCBill 2000charge (for debit EU and Korean cards) IBill Alternative processing: for checks Electracash WTS (ACHdebit) Dialers: NoCreditCards Goodthinxxx Profitplantation Spread your risk boys and girls.... __________________ Around since 1997, and the company that introduced "Cascading Billing" in MPA3® Affiliate Management and Tracking Software Outsourcing With A Norwegian Twist - NordBits - Inquire within!

01-16-2004, 05:49 PM	#3
StuartD Sofa King Band Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Outside the box Posts: 29,903	Why does MPA2 have so many bugs in it? __________________ This is me on facebook This is me on twitter

01-16-2004, 08:19 PM	#12
rowan Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 17,393	I don't see why you need MPA to switch your primary processor - just change the HTML on your join page. Did you guys even support probilling as an option? Spam, spam, spam.

01-17-2004, 12:56 AM	#20
Steve Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: USA Posts: 6,894	1) I have NEVER gotten any script that didn't have bugs. There is always at least one little bug. 2) Do you think he'd even acknowledge any accusations or allegations of shaving? That is just fucking dumb.

01-17-2004, 02:29 AM	#22
monro So Fucking Banned Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 787	Ezybonds is a new payment processor you all can use in the future. There are no risks whatsoever. The very same minute somenone pays you, you can collect your money. No chargebacks. All cards, even amarican express. Pincodes supplied. Adult industry welcome! All it takes is a simple html code on your page. Please click my sig for more info!

01-17-2004, 02:52 AM	#23
Bansheelinks Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 6,023	If you put your faith in Probilling its your own fault you will be getting hammered on rebills..........many & varied warnings were given repeatedly about the shakiness of Probilling, not too mention questionably practices and tactics...... they were short termers..........end of story.......end of Probilling

01-17-2004, 12:43 PM	#29
besterman Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 623	Why don't you add a panel in the affiliate info for MPA2 they can add bank info and minimum payouts so they can get wires instead of checks?

01-17-2004, 06:26 PM	#40
fsfaz Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Hollyweird, CA Posts: 747	Oystein, Does MPA2 run on our servers and is the source secure? I ask because I see your charging monthly for it.

01-17-2004, 09:44 PM	#44
rounders Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: p0rn0stars & h0es Posts: 2,931	You notice how Oystein's post number is 666? Well anyways I got MPA2 now So damn give me my upgrade.

01-17-2004, 09:45 PM	#45
rounders Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: p0rn0stars & h0es Posts: 2,931	Support is great from Mansion. I love it.