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Old 01-14-2004, 07:58 PM   #1
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it may be time to boycott the SUPERBOWL

if CBS follows thru with their threat to not allow moveon's ad to air
http://www.adage.com/news.cms?newsId=39555
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Old 01-14-2004, 08:03 PM   #2
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CBS is owned by Jews - like so many other American media outlets. No objectivity there.
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Old 01-14-2004, 08:04 PM   #3
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the thing liberals cant understand is that nbc cbs abc are overwhelmingly liberal, but they pretty much softball everything because most of the viewers are middle america which is predominantly moderate to a slight right lean, and do not want to piss off the advertisors by alienating their viewers.


ps.

everything in that stupid video was the same shit they said about Reagan.
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Old 01-14-2004, 08:13 PM   #4
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sad but true.. bush doesn't know a damn thing he is doing.. it's more of a personal thing then what's best for usa.. usa is fucked.. there's probably so many people that have usa targeted now.. didn't we catch osomba bin laden? i herd about it once for about 2 seconds.. then nothing more about it ever.. i thought he was one of the main reasons for war and shit.. then when he is caught they do a little speach "we caught osomba bin laden" that's it.
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Old 01-14-2004, 08:16 PM   #5
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sad but true.. bush doesn't know a damn thing he is doing.. it's more of a personal thing then what's best for usa.. usa is fucked.. there's probably so many people that have usa targeted now.. didn't we catch osomba bin laden? i herd about it once for about 2 seconds.. then nothing more about it ever.. i thought he was one of the main reasons for war and shit.. then when he is caught they do a little speach "we caught osomba bin laden" that's it.
you think?? What makes YOU think YOU know any better? What are YOUR credentials? Porn webmaster?? Highschool dropout? Parent at 15? Looks like you fell asleep during SPELLING class. You sure talk like you know what's best for the United States of America.
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Old 01-14-2004, 08:33 PM   #6
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you think?? What makes YOU think YOU know any better? What are YOUR credentials? Porn webmaster?? Highschool dropout? Parent at 15? Looks like you fell asleep during SPELLING class. You sure talk like you know what's best for the United States of America.
i don't even know how to answer that.. if you think just because the airplanes flew thru that building it destroyed our WHOLE economy you are an idiot.. i mean shit.. if that building was that important that if a fire would of taken it out.. the whole country would of been fucked and lost millions of jobs you'd think they would have backups of whatever was there? an airplane took out the pentagon.. and i didn't hear of 1 bad result that happened from it.. did you? but this other building destroyed the whole usa.. we are fucked.. UNLESS we blow iraq up.. and catch osomba bin laden and shit.. the first or second day of war.. they thought they kill osomba bin laden.. they still don't even know if he is alive or not.. but are still spending billions on missles to blow up useless shit.. we caught sadam husane.. least that's what htey told us.. they haven't told us nothing else.. you'd think that would be a pretty big deal.. no? i mean we caught the dude that "fucked the whole usa by destroying 2 buildings"

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Old 01-14-2004, 08:35 PM   #7
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Old 01-14-2004, 08:40 PM   #8
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Old 01-14-2004, 09:25 PM   #9
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I'm watching. I could give a shit about all that.

4 good teams are left. Bring on the football!

Boycott if you want but leave me the Nachos!!!!!!!
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Old 01-14-2004, 09:30 PM   #10
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i don't even know how to answer that.. if you think just because the airplanes flew thru that building it destroyed our WHOLE economy you are an idiot.. i mean shit.. if that building was that important that if a fire would of taken it out.. the whole country would of been fucked and lost millions of jobs you'd think they would have backups of whatever was there? an airplane took out the pentagon.. and i didn't hear of 1 bad result that happened from it.. did you? but this other building destroyed the whole usa.. we are fucked.. UNLESS we blow iraq up.. and catch osomba bin laden and shit.. the first or second day of war.. they thought they kill osomba bin laden.. they still don't even know if he is alive or not.. but are still spending billions on missles to blow up useless shit.. we caught sadam husane.. least that's what htey told us.. they haven't told us nothing else.. you'd think that would be a pretty big deal.. no? i mean we caught the dude that "fucked the whole usa by destroying 2 buildings"
I didn't ask you to write an essay. I just asked a simple question and you failed to answer it! What are your credentials for you to lecture people on how the USA should be ran? Is it that hard to answer? You're the one criticizing Bush and the administration on how this and that is wrong, so I am asking you what makes you think you know any better?
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Old 01-14-2004, 09:34 PM   #11
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I didn't ask you to write an essay. I just asked a simple question and you failed to answer it! What are your credentials for you to lecture people on how the USA should be ran? Is it that hard to answer? You're the one criticizing Bush and the administration on how this and that is wrong, so I am asking you what makes you think you know any better?
Why does someone need "credentials" to have an opinion?

By the way, while you are lecturing people on spelling and grammar, it's "run" not "ran" in your third sentence.
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Old 01-14-2004, 09:38 PM   #12
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I wonder how it would be if the US gov't sent a limo to bring a guy like Gin to Washington and be instant president. Kick Bush out and just shove "the average guy with no credentials" in there, the guy that thinks he knows better than the real leaders of the country.

Yeah, I wonder how that'd go down.
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Old 01-14-2004, 09:39 PM   #13
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They can't just run an ad slamming Bush. Due to campaign and media laws, they'd also have to run an ad from the opposite point of view - EQUAL TIME.

Running this ad would require that they also run a 30-second conservative ad. That's one full minute of campaigning, mud-slinging, and completely moving the focus off of the "cool commercials" and onto "did you hear what the XXX side said about the XXX side in those campaign spots??"

Think about it. How many people tune in each year JUST to see the super-cool ads that are run during the Bowl? A hell of a lot, who don't even like football. Those commercials are THE talk of every water cooler in the nation for the next two weeks. Entire websites are made up about them. Awards are given for the best one.

Slip one political ad in there and you completely blow the whole thing and lose the effectiveness of your advertisers' dollars.
I wouldn't do it, either - regardless of which side of the political debate I was on. Let them find another show to sling their mud on, I've got eyeballs to get to advertisers who want their products talked about for the next two weeks.
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Old 01-14-2004, 09:48 PM   #14
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Why does someone need "credentials" to have an opinion?

By the way, while you are lecturing people on spelling and grammar, it's "run" not "ran" in your third sentence.

What do you call a 5th grade drop-out criticizing Bill Gates how to run Microsoft? Their opinion exists but is it relevant? I think not.
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Old 01-14-2004, 09:50 PM   #15
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What do you call a 5th grade drop-out criticizing Bill Gates how to run Microsoft? Their opinion exists but is it relevant? I think not.
What are your "credentials"?
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Old 01-14-2004, 09:53 PM   #16
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What are your "credentials"?
Am I criticizing this the administration of the USA on how they're doing their job??? I don't need any credentials buddy. If I came in here and cried Rumsfeld doesn't know shit about being the Secretary of Defense, then it would be another story.
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I already knew the US will be paying down that debt for the next 50 years, didn't need a commercial to tell me.

I will be watching the superbowl no matter how loudly a handful of jilted liberals cry during their "boycott".
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Old 01-14-2004, 09:56 PM   #18
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Am I criticizing this the administration of the USA on how they're doing their job??? I don't need any credentials buddy. If I came in here and cried Rumsfeld doesn't know shit about being the Secretary of Defense, then it would be another story.
Incidentally, what sort of "credentials" does one need in order to criticize the Bush administration?

Be as specific as possible.
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Old 01-14-2004, 09:59 PM   #19
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I didn't ask you to write an essay. I just asked a simple question and you failed to answer it! What are your credentials for you to lecture people on how the USA should be ran? Is it that hard to answer? You're the one criticizing Bush and the administration on how this and that is wrong, so I am asking you what makes you think you know any better?
i didn't say i could run the usa.. i know damn well i couldn't.. but i do know bush doesn't know how to run the usa either.. can't you see in the last 3 years how much usa has changed?
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They can't just run an ad slamming Bush. Due to campaign and media laws, they'd also have to run an ad from the opposite point of view - EQUAL TIME.

Running this ad would require that they also run a 30-second conservative ad. That's one full minute of campaigning, mud-slinging, and completely moving the focus off of the "cool commercials" and onto "did you hear what the XXX side said about the XXX side in those campaign spots??"

Think about it. How many people tune in each year JUST to see the super-cool ads that are run during the Bowl? A hell of a lot, who don't even like football. Those commercials are THE talk of every water cooler in the nation for the next two weeks. Entire websites are made up about them. Awards are given for the best one.

Slip one political ad in there and you completely blow the whole thing and lose the effectiveness of your advertisers' dollars.
I wouldn't do it, either - regardless of which side of the political debate I was on. Let them find another show to sling their mud on, I've got eyeballs to get to advertisers who want their products talked about for the next two weeks.
Your post is pure fiction.

You think that advertising has to be equal? You may be thinking of the old (80's) rules about editorial, not advertising.

If what you wrote was true (which it is not), then there would be no reason for either side to raise money because every paid ad by one side would get a free ad by the other side. That is simply not the way it works.

Fox News would not be allowed to run 24/7 conservative talk shows if there was anything about "equal time" left in the media.
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i didn't say i could run the usa.. i know damn well i couldn't.. but i do know bush doesn't know how to run the usa either.. can't you see in the last 3 years how much usa has changed?
What's really sad and ironic is that most people who think like you do don't take the time to go and vote. Do you vote?

Do you even live in the US?
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