Search Engine Optimization for Dummies - GoFuckYourself.com

ldinternet · 01-12-2004, 01:12 AM

I'm a complete n00b at seo. I hear about people making a living from search engines and wonder how it's done... is there anywhere to find out about this kind of thing? I'm not talking about PPC, of course.

I've seen discussions on Google algorithms, cloaking, etc, yet I know nothing about this. All this talk, I seem to be missing out on something.

I add meta tags, submit to search engines, then that's it?

I know that pages can be optimized, but is that all? What steps and stages am I missing? Are there any good resources about this?

Sly_RJ · 01-12-2004, 01:14 AM

I wish I knew something about SEO...

OzMan84 · 01-12-2004, 01:16 AM

so do i, help this guy out aswell me and other n00b seo traffic ppl

serious · 01-12-2004, 01:18 AM

meta tags arn't important anymore.

you might want to wait a couple weeks i know escortbiz has some software coming out which should be really nice.

other than that find the forums dedicated to seo and google talk and you will learn a lot pretty quick

pradaboy · 01-12-2004, 01:43 AM

article about the SEO basics:

http://www.webworkshop.net/search_en...on_basics.html

hope it helps

flashfreak · 01-12-2004, 02:04 AM

the title is very important and the backlinks.
"submit to search engine" = waste of time. google sends 85% of the traffic and yahoo 10%.

Odin88 · 01-12-2004, 02:09 AM

Quote:

meta tags arn't important anymore.

A good meaty meta description tag never hurt anyone. Meta keywords appear to be totally irrelevent though.

Brad Xtremepay · 01-12-2004, 02:11 AM

To be honest no one really knows WTF they are doing. It's all guess work. If someone KNEW the Google algorithm maybe.

Asked WG. He's the only guy who knows.

lock · 01-12-2004, 02:34 AM

for those that want to submit to s/e
http://www.wolfwhistle.com a huge collection of multi url submit forms.

paul1000 · 01-12-2004, 02:50 AM

SEO advice is generally worth how much you paid/didn't pay for it, or at least that has been my experience

I have tried to do my own SEO with a certain level of success I guess ... and I have found that any "free" SEO advice or tutorials (I used to get all kinds in my email - WEB PRO NEWS etc.) are not usually worth shit.

It seems that true SEO is a well guarded secret, and for good reason - your ability to drive SE traffic to your website is one thing that will make or break ANY website !!

I have dealt with a few SEO companies, and a few individuals also, and usually got results much better than trying to wing it on my own.

Currently I am dealing with "Panky", who is a free-lance SEO consultant/marketer, as well as a moderator at both Xnations and STFU.

Her rates are very good for the service she performs. She looks at your site, and gives you a couple pricepoints and SEO strategies to chose from, depending on your budget.

I would recommend her to anybody who cannot afford, or does not want to pay 4 figures a month, (or MORE!)

Panky's ICQ is 511-400-74

graphicsbytia · 01-12-2004, 11:45 AM

Hey Idinternet

We offer consulting at Graphics by tia that includes search engine optimization of your sites. We not only do it but teach you to do it yourself.

Check out this page http://www.graphicsbytia.com/consult.html and if you're interested shoot me an e-mail telling me exactly what you need and I'll get back to you with a quote.

Chris · 01-12-2004, 12:03 PM

IT confuses me all I know is you better have good text

Royaltee_Gee · 01-12-2004, 12:12 PM

all the real seo experts dont say shit, help anyone, or sell there services... so if your paying for anything your getting 2nd best....

WiredGuy · 01-12-2004, 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brad Xtremepay
To be honest no one really knows WTF they are doing. It's all guess work. If someone KNEW the Google algorithm maybe.

Asked WG. He's the only guy who knows.

Thanks Brad. Was great to finally meet you in Vegas btw.
I'm as baffled as the next person to a lot of updates Google has done lately but like any algorithm, it can be figured out and manipulated even without the entire formula

WG

Ben-MensNiche · 01-12-2004, 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brad Xtremepay
To be honest no one really knows WTF they are doing. It's all guess work. If someone KNEW the Google algorithm maybe.

Asked WG. He's the only guy who knows.

Here's one document on the net that explains how the Google PageRank algorithm works: http://www.iprcom.com/papers/pagerank/index.html

01-12-2004, 01:12 AM	#1
ldinternet Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 8,245	Search Engine Optimization for Dummies I'm a complete n00b at seo. I hear about people making a living from search engines and wonder how it's done... is there anywhere to find out about this kind of thing? I'm not talking about PPC, of course. I've seen discussions on Google algorithms, cloaking, etc, yet I know nothing about this. All this talk, I seem to be missing out on something. I add meta tags, submit to search engines, then that's it? I know that pages can be optimized, but is that all? What steps and stages am I missing? Are there any good resources about this?

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01-12-2004, 02:11 AM	#8
Brad Xtremepay So Fucking Banned Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 2,000	To be honest no one really knows WTF they are doing. It's all guess work. If someone KNEW the Google algorithm maybe. Asked WG. He's the only guy who knows.

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01-12-2004, 02:50 AM	#10
paul1000 Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 181	SEO advice is generally worth how much you paid/didn't pay for it, or at least that has been my experience I have tried to do my own SEO with a certain level of success I guess ... and I have found that any "free" SEO advice or tutorials (I used to get all kinds in my email - WEB PRO NEWS etc.) are not usually worth shit. It seems that true SEO is a well guarded secret, and for good reason - your ability to drive SE traffic to your website is one thing that will make or break ANY website !! I have dealt with a few SEO companies, and a few individuals also, and usually got results much better than trying to wing it on my own. Currently I am dealing with "Panky", who is a free-lance SEO consultant/marketer, as well as a moderator at both Xnations and STFU. Her rates are very good for the service she performs. She looks at your site, and gives you a couple pricepoints and SEO strategies to chose from, depending on your budget. I would recommend her to anybody who cannot afford, or does not want to pay 4 figures a month, (or MORE!) Panky's ICQ is 511-400-74 __________________ 779 (or MORE) to go !! <br>Life is Tough <br> Last edited by paul1000; 01-12-2004 at 02:53 AM..

01-12-2004, 11:45 AM	#11
graphicsbytia Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Tennessee Posts: 2,618	Hey Idinternet We offer consulting at Graphics by tia that includes search engine optimization of your sites. We not only do it but teach you to do it yourself. Check out this page http://www.graphicsbytia.com/consult.html and if you're interested shoot me an e-mail telling me exactly what you need and I'll get back to you with a quote.

01-12-2004, 12:03 PM	#12
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01-12-2004, 12:12 PM	#13
Royaltee_Gee Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 973	all the real seo experts dont say shit, help anyone, or sell there services... so if your paying for anything your getting 2nd best....