A question about NTSC to PAL. - GoFuckYourself.com

CumSensei · 01-10-2004, 04:07 AM

Yo folks.
Here is the question.
I am ordering content from a guy in the states (the pople in the states have NTSC standard)

And im in europe meaning I got PAL standard.

The movies will be delivered on MINIDV tapes.

Now is it possible to run these in a PAL DV camera and convert them on the computer?

Or how do you solve this?

Do you have to buy some kind of device?

AdultKing · 01-10-2004, 04:23 AM

Most PAL minidv decks will play NTSC. Many cameras support NTSC playback too.

If necessary rent a semi pro MiniDV deck and dump the tapes to PAL

AdultKing · 01-10-2004, 04:24 AM

Good video editing packages will let you import and convert formats too. I use Final Cut for Mac but I don't see why PC software wont let you do this too.

CumSensei · 01-10-2004, 04:24 AM

Really?
Hmm I got a jvc GR-DVX77E
But have not been able to find out if it do play NTCS

DVTimes · 01-10-2004, 04:46 AM

You should find many firms that will convert cheaply.

Buy a DV mag and look in the back at the adverts.

The cheaper DV cams may not be able to play both formots, but the better ones should.

You may find the chap you is sending you the DV tapes could convert for you if you ask him.

Paul Markham · 01-10-2004, 04:56 AM

It depends on what you are using to feed the data into the computer. Most domestic stuff is going to give very bad quality.

Conversion at the top end is expensive, as was said try looking in some magazines.

DVTimes · 01-10-2004, 04:56 AM

If your DV cam has a DV in, you could rent or borrow a DV cam that will play both formats, copy the tapes from one machine to the other - or direct to your pc.

You may find some camera shops will also do this.

Or you could just buy a new DV camera.

I have two low cost JVC's and I think they will only play PAL (but to be honest, I have never checked), but I think my new Sony PD170 should (cost enough).

Zappu · 01-10-2004, 07:03 AM

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Really?
Hmm I got a jvc GR-DVX77E
But have not been able to find out if it do play NTCS

As far as I know there is only one cam available by Sony which is able to play NTSC. It will cost about 600?

Edit Video · 01-10-2004, 08:05 AM

Premeire 6.5 will allow you to capture the mini-dv tapes into Microsoft PAL format. Before capturing, Open Premiere and then select Project>>Project Settings>>Video. You will then see the setting for Microsoft PAL

Best of luck..

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Zappu · 01-10-2004, 08:13 AM

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Premeire 6.5 will allow you to capture the mini-dv tapes into Microsoft PAL format.

That will close to any other program do as well, the problem is to get the video from tape into the computer

and therefor you will need a player (revorder) which is able to read NTSC, what is not that easy to find here in Europe and a prof. machine starts at about 15.000?

Muff · 01-10-2004, 08:46 AM

A guy at the local store here converts PAL to NTSC for like $10.

Shouldn't be hard to find someone to do the same except NTSC to PAL where you live

CumSensei · 01-10-2004, 09:17 AM

Yeah I know but it´s alot of extra work.
Might be more easy to try and get em as pal directly from the content guy.

I have to look into this but sure is a bitch!

Man why cant US follow all the other standards!

directfiesta · 01-10-2004, 09:19 AM

Get yourself a camera that plays the NTSC tape.

For very good quality, use a stand alone converter such as the TR-1000 Pro from Tenlab ( about 1600.00 $ US) . The unit converts from all to all formats, with TBC , gen lock and for adjustment color bar generator.

Stay away from the $10.00 services. They mostlu use the Samsung video player with built in converter, but the quality is very low.

CumSensei · 01-10-2004, 09:57 AM

Yeah dont want bad quality because we will also sell this on dvds.

Mikey_219Inc · 01-10-2004, 10:00 AM

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Originally posted by CumSensei
Yeah I know but it´s alot of extra work.
Might be more easy to try and get em as pal directly from the content guy.

I have to look into this but sure is a bitch!

Man why cant US follow all the other standards!

these are going on the web? have the company convert them to PAL, its not that expensive, and the loss will be negligible if for the web, your going to compress the shit out of it anyways. It will still be an adequate source file after the tape to tape conversion.

otherwise, ask them to send you an ntsc cam (pay them for the cam, have them unpackage it, get a small one, have 'em bubblewrap it and send it as a gift DHL or FEDEX) with the tapes, just be careful with customs (dont know where you are) and be careful how cheap you go on the cam, dont want it eating your tapes. and make sure the cam has the outputs you need for capture ...

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DVTimes xxx Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: UK Posts: 31,547	If your DV cam has a DV in, you could rent or borrow a DV cam that will play both formats, copy the tapes from one machine to the other - or direct to your pc. You may find some camera shops will also do this. Or you could just buy a new DV camera. I have two low cost JVC's and I think they will only play PAL (but to be honest, I have never checked), but I think my new Sony PD170 should (cost enough). __________________ The Affiliate Program

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AdultKing Raise Your Weapon Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Outback Australia Posts: 15,601	Most PAL minidv decks will play NTSC. Many cameras support NTSC playback too. If necessary rent a semi pro MiniDV deck and dump the tapes to PAL

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Edit Video Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 36	Premeire 6.5 will allow you to capture the mini-dv tapes into Microsoft PAL format. Before capturing, Open Premiere and then select Project>>Project Settings>>Video. You will then see the setting for Microsoft PAL Best of luck.. Leave your ICQ if you have any ?'s

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Muff Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,782	A guy at the local store here converts PAL to NTSC for like $10. Shouldn't be hard to find someone to do the same except NTSC to PAL where you live

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CumSensei Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Sweden Posts: 3,986	Yeah I know but it´s alot of extra work. Might be more easy to try and get em as pal directly from the content guy. I have to look into this but sure is a bitch! Man why cant US follow all the other standards! __________________ CumSensei say: SEO traffic makes big boom boom.

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directfiesta Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Montreal, Quebec Posts: 29,765	Get yourself a camera that plays the NTSC tape. For very good quality, use a stand alone converter such as the TR-1000 Pro from Tenlab ( about 1600.00 $ US) . The unit converts from all to all formats, with TBC , gen lock and for adjustment color bar generator. Stay away from the $10.00 services. They mostlu use the Samsung video player with built in converter, but the quality is very low. __________________ I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT ! But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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