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Serge_Oprano 01-08-2004 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Wizzo


I've some stupid stuff, but EpicCash shaving... Come the fuck on, that's a stretch...

your right,
they don't sdhave probably...THEY JUST DON'T CONVERT FOR SHIT!
;-))

p1mpdogg 01-08-2004 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CDSmith
Again you're off the mark. You must have missed the part of my earlier post in this thread where I said "this business is my livelihood" and that I have made my living from my online ventures for nearly 5 years now, longer than your program has been in existance. More than twice as long actually. The second the IMPA's paypal link went up, I sent a donation. Why? Because my "wallet" IS in fact on the line. I have over 40 sponsors, if they were to all lose and be put under the hardship of having to pay multiple patent fees they would certainly have to cut my paycheck down.

Bro, we are all in this together. There is no room for squirming here. I am "the affiliate", you are "the program owner"..... big deal. Guys like me are no less an important component in the food chain than you. If you don't know that already, there is yet another reason not to promote you. Do you really not know that?

I have been doing this since 97. not that it matters.

and you dont promote me anyways, so why is it even an issue? Dont worry about what I know, Im obviously doing something right, but I wont get into pissing match with you over my success.

I am not your bro, you are twisting this shit around like I sold everyone out. when in fact its the complete opposite.

notjoe 01-08-2004 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by p1mpdogg


your perspective on this isnt even valid, because you do not run a program. you didnt have to deal with this shit, you havent seen the numbers. you didnt have to pay a fucking lawyer to work the best deal he could. You arent being sued. Try looking at this like your wallet is at stake here, and not just someone sitting on the sidelines making play calls like its a football game.

So, do you have to open the books up to them? If you do isnt it possible that they will see all your affiliate data? Im sure they would want to see everyone and the numbers they're doing which should produce the overall numbers you try to feed them.

Sounds like they would get your affiliate list from the books considering that is where they will figure out how much you owe them.

You talk so highly of this contract, why dont you post the details of the contract, unless there is something in there you dont want people to see. Stop hiding behind it and produce it so your affiliates can know what you've gotten them into.

p1mpdogg 01-08-2004 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano


your right,
they don't sdhave probably...THEY JUST DON'T CONVERT FOR SHIT!
;-))

is that right serge? have you promoted me? name names of who convert like shit with me.. I dare you...

notjoe 01-08-2004 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lickshots


Well for one you wouldn't see ARS, because ARS doesn't own any of the sites.

No but they send/redirect traffic which would still infringe on the patent issue (so berman claims), dumbass. Since you want to get technical the ppl who provide/manage the actual sites havent signed either and intend to fight it.

Serge_Oprano 01-08-2004 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Candice


Fuck you Serge!

sorry, honey,
but I see it but as an extortion,
I doin't pay ho's....therefore,
not in your fucking dream!

your ass fuckin' techniques SCARE me!

p1mpdogg 01-08-2004 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by notjoe


So, do you have to open the books up to them? If you do isnt it possible that they will see all your affiliate data? Im sure they would want to see everyone and the numbers they're doing which should produce the overall numbers you try to feed them.

Sounds like they would get your affiliate list from the books considering that is where they will figure out how much you owe them.

You talk so highly of this contract, why dont you post the details of the contract, unless there is something in there you dont want people to see. Stop hiding behind it and produce it so your affiliates can know what you've gotten them into.

yea they have little green men with spy cams that will take secret snap shots of email addresses and affiliate ID's.

you are not even worth the time scammer

Serge_Oprano 01-08-2004 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Candice



You're a lying piece of shit, I'm sorry people, I'm pissed, so I'm
voicing it.

you aren't pissed,
you are patently stupid and this is why pimpdog left you....just to set the record straight....
it has nothing to do wiht your ass fucking habits.

Serge_Oprano 01-08-2004 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by funkmaster


... you are a gentleman by trade.

...and Brittish Lord at nite
;-))))

yeah, right!
;-)))

have you seen Ron Levi's flash movie?
;-))))

p1mpdogg 01-08-2004 07:12 PM

i guess its safe to say you didnt choke on anything at dinner eh serge?

CDSmith 01-08-2004 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by p1mpdogg
I have been doing this since 97. not that it matters.

and you dont promote me anyways, so why is it even an issue? Dont worry about what I know, Im obviously doing something right, but I wont get into pissing match with you over my success.

I am not your bro, you are twisting this shit around like I sold everyone out. when in fact its the complete opposite.

Okay fair enough. To me, you and I are just talking here though, I'm not trying to piss with you at all. I'm not sure why you're getting yourself all worked up with the "I'm not your bro" shit, but whatever. I guess all the other shit on this thread has left you somewhat close to snitsville, and i can understand that.


I only currently promote one sponsor on that list, but that too is about to change. The reason this concerns me is because *your* decisions sometimes affect much more than just *your* business. Sometimes *your* decisions affect the entire industry, and this could very well be one of those times. Maybe when other programs see a thread like this they might think harder about the best course of action, who knows. All I know is the more companies who decide to fight, the better the chances of defeating the extortion.

Don't tell me you don't want to see Acacia go down in flames. If you do, then we have that in common.

Serge_Oprano 01-08-2004 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by p1mpdogg
we held out for 3 months.

yea we sold out. big deal.

when you have a successful business at risk, you do what you have todo to.

our affiliates are protected.

get fucked if you dont agree with OUR decission. its our business to run how we see fit.

you have successful business???

Candice, YOU built it,
demand your share!
;-))))

p1mpdogg 01-08-2004 07:14 PM

Quote:

Don't tell me you don't want to see Acacia go down in flames. If you do, then we have that in common.
ofcoarse i do

Serge_Oprano 01-08-2004 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by funkmaster


... see gentleman serge, this is the way you quote shit. watch and learn.

the day I learn from GFYers will be the day before I blow my brains out
;-))))

CDSmith 01-08-2004 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano
the day I learn from GFYers will be the day before I blow my brains out
;-))))

You and I could learn a lot from each other.


Lock and load.

Serge_Oprano 01-08-2004 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by p1mpdogg


you think this thread has me worried about anything?

.

\
yes, it does...you missed your lunch,
I had my dinner, and you'll be here at 5 am when I wake up and explain to Europeans how you fuck them

notjoe 01-08-2004 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by p1mpdogg


yea they have little green men with spy cams that will take secret snap shots of email addresses and affiliate ID's.

you are not even worth the time scammer

Hey dipshit, if you have to open up the books you're telling me they don't have access to know who you're paying and how much money you're making? I know if I was in their shoes and I found a fish like you I would make you disclose who sent every single signup so that I can ensure you're not trying to rip me off, kind of like you already did.

You call me a scammer? I'm not the one who uses stolen content on their sites (like you did when you used my screen caps even after I told you that you didn't have permission?).
How about the bill you didn't pay?
How about the excessive spam I was getting from you?
How about the music in your GFY banner that you have, you telling me you licensed the music from the recording studio?

Yet I'm the scammer eh?

You say you're not out for the publicity? Why don't you explain the banner you have up on GFY? You may call it an AD but i'm sure the space could have been better spent promoting the program instead of welcoming yourself back.

I think i'm not worth the time because i'm raising a valid point. Post the contract and shut me (and im sure a lot of other people) up

Serge_Oprano 01-08-2004 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by p1mpdogg


is that right serge? have you promoted me? name names of who convert like shit with me.. I dare you...

Alex Brown sent you 13,281 hits and got ZERO sign ups!

anything else you need from me?>

Serge_Oprano 01-08-2004 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by p1mpdogg
i guess its safe to say you didnt choke on anything at dinner eh serge?
Cabernet was excelelnt,
grilled octopus superb,
lamb chops divine,
smelts outstanding,

Greek salad out of this world...
and no I am dowing your posts with Calvados...is there anything wrong with that?
;-)))

(between us boys, do you wash your dick after ass fuckin' or did you use the condom?)

Serge_Oprano 01-08-2004 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CDSmith
You and I could learn a lot from each other.


Lock and load.

you are not GFYer,
you are Oprano material
;-))))

Broda 01-08-2004 07:24 PM

And the thread goes on...

Spunky 01-08-2004 07:24 PM

:glugglug. I dont understand people saying these companies are sell outs. I sure as hell hope Acacia bites it as I was served with papers as well. I'm not a lawyer but its either pay me now or pay a hell of alot more later. If I was in that position I would have done the same.

thehornydevil 01-08-2004 07:24 PM

I got a notice from Acacia last fall. It's been hanging on my wall ever since - it's always good for a laugh.
Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go buy the patent for displaying images in a website.

Serge_Oprano 01-08-2004 07:26 PM

as always,
pimp is running because he is cheat, hungry and stupid...

cheers, CDSmith!
;-))))

Serge_Oprano 01-08-2004 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Candice



You're a lying piece of shit, I'm sorry people, I'm pissed, so I'm
voicing it.

I am, and you are an HTML guru...

"sweet.candice


Group: Members
Posts: 65
Joined: 2-November 03 hey Serge:

Tonight when i get home from turkey stuff, I need you to help me with something. It's small , but im embarrassed to ask you about it publicly...I'm trying to resize some pics so that I can have my pic on GFY under my name. So, I' ll contact you tonight, you'll be around, right?
"




Candice,
how is your resizing going?

CDSmith 01-08-2004 07:34 PM

I am, if anything, a man of the people. I'm just as interested to read Trey's responses as I am to present the points I've presented. Anyone that knows anything knows there are two sides to every story (then there's the truth)...... it appears that boths sides are well represented here.


Fact is, Acacia IS also targeting affiliates (of any program), so there is nothing to say that I couldn't be next to get "the letter". Trying to insinuate that my opinion is invalid simply because I don't run a program is way off base, and more than slightly out of line. I'm trying to say that we all have a stake in this. I'm not sure why anyone would want to argue that point.


Maybe others will see a thread like this and at least realize that choosing to settle with Acacia isn't going to solve all their troubles, but very likely open up a can of new ones.

Ben-MensNiche 01-08-2004 07:41 PM

Am I the only one that's questioning the fact that you can't send your surfer wherever the fuck you want?

If I put a link to a website that's not allied to Acacia, what exactly are they going to do to me? I'd like to see that one stand up in court.

Acacia Vs. Ben-MensNiche
Mr. Ben-MensNiche is accused of sending traffic to a website that isn't affiliated with Acacia.

I'd like for someone to find me somewhere in writing anything that states I can't direct someone reading my website to wherever the fuck I like, regardless of where the surfer is ending up or where they're affiliated to.

Someone tell me where exactly I'm breaking the law by putting a link on my site to a site that isn't supporting Acacia. Because I'm not actually streaming any media, what the fuck do they think they can do? Bully me? How old are we? 12? Acacia, wherever the fuck you came from, or whoever the fuck you think you can bully, STFU and get your head out of your ass!

Also, maybe I'm missing something here, but how did it come to pass that a patent could be approved more than a year after the technology existed despite the fact that one of the requirements of the U.S. Patent Office is that the technology or product cannot have been in public circulation for more than a period of a year prior to the registration of the aforementioned patent? Wouldn't this fact render the patent null and void?

If this is the case, then why didn't everyone tell Acacia to GFY?

Serge_Oprano 01-08-2004 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ben-MensNiche
Am I the only one that's questioning the fact that you can't send your surfer wherever the fuck you want?

If I put a link to a website that's not allied to Acacia, what exactly are they going to do to me? I'd like to see that one stand up in court.

Acacia Vs. Ben-MensNiche
Mr. Ben-MensNiche is accused of sending traffic to a website that isn't affiliated with Acacia.

I'd like for someone to find me somewhere in writing anything that states I can't direct someone reading my website to wherever the fuck I like, regardless of where the surfer is ending up or where they're affiliated to.

Someone tell me where exactly I'm breaking the law by putting a link on my site to a site that isn't supporting Acacia?

the law of US,
penal code , page 327, paragraph 12, chapter B states and I quote:
"Al Gore invented the Internet and if you don't send traffic to Democratic party or vote Republican,
you are a contributary infringer and subject to spanking from pimpdog"

check this out!

Ben-MensNiche 01-08-2004 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano


the law of US,
penal code , page 327, paragraph 12, chapter B states and I quote:
"Al Gore invented the Internet and if you don't send traffic to Democratic party or vote Republican,
you are a contributary infringer and subject to spanking from pimpdog"

check this out!


rofl - you dumbass :1orglaugh

Honeyslut 01-08-2004 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jive




"150 webmasters that prefer making money with EpicCash"


Like I said if this epic shit didn't shave so much then they'd have some good typein traffic from me and others..
STOP YOUR SCAMING! then you'll survive like the rest of the sponsors get back to the basics. this is a message for all sponsors.. the shaving and frauding will catch up to you more quickly now adays.. the end is near for alot of you..
mark Jive's words.:2 cents:

:glugglug

latinasojourn 01-08-2004 07:53 PM

Seems to me that the companies that are settling are doing it prematurely.

Unless I'm mistaken, there has not yet been a single adjudication of the validity of the acacia patent.

My bet is that it will be held invalid due to prior art.

And when it is ruled invalid the companies that settled will be toast in the adult webmaster community.

Absolute toast. Those of you that are settling this early should be thinking about your new names and corporate identities right now.

Right now I'm off to watch the video clip on CNN.com of the martian robot.

Serge_Oprano 01-08-2004 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ben-MensNiche



rofl - you dumbass :1orglaugh

you are off the topic,
the question raised in this forum and the one which was NEVER answered is:
DOES pimpdog wash his cock after he fucks ass or does he wears condom?

anybody can shed light on it?
candice?
Wizzo?
Joe?

pamphage 01-08-2004 07:59 PM

goddamn asylum is gonna get an xbox :1orglaugh

wyldblyss 01-08-2004 07:59 PM

Well, I read this entire thread and be damned if I could only think of one thing. Why the hell is McD's in his signature? Is there real meaning hidden in it? Is he comparing EpicCash to McD's? Does he work for McD's? Is he hoping that if this doesn't go well there will always be a job for him at McD's? Is he saying that EpicCash only brings in enough money to eat at McD's and not a decent restaurant? Or is it that most webmasters should be working at McD's? Does he think Acacia will leave him with only enough money to buy McD's? Hell if I know.

Now if I'm expected to comment on this whole situation about the only thing I can come up with is this. In my opinion, if you want respect, no matter what position you take as a company for heaven's sakes stay professional even on GFY. To me that means I would expect that there would be no profanity and things be worded in a professional and intelligent manner without appearing to insult others even though you may be in the line of fire and be insulted yourself.

Serge_Oprano 01-08-2004 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by wyldblyss
Well, I read this entire thread and be damned if I could only think of one thing. Why the hell is McD's in his signature? Is there real meaning hidden in it? Is he comparing EpicCash to McD's? Does he work for McD's? Is he hoping that if this doesn't go well there will always be a job for him at McD's? Is he saying that EpicCash only brings in enough money to eat at McD's and not a decent restaurant? Or is it that most webmasters should be working at McD's? Does he think Acacia will leave him with only enough money to buy McD's? Hell if I know.

Now if I'm expected to comment on this whole situation about the only thing I can come up with is this. In my opinion, if you want respect, no matter what position you take as a company for heaven's sakes stay professional even on GFY. To me that means I would expect that there would be no profanity and things be worded in a professional and intelligent manner without appearing to insult others even though you may be in the line of fire and be insulted yourself.

iot's in his signature because he wants us to believe he is a part of McD empire....and therefore can be trusted

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 01-08-2004 08:01 PM

2% of $25.00 per member makes 5 cents per member to Accacia.
Or is my math bad?

X37375787 01-08-2004 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AlienQ
2% of $25.00 per member makes 5 cents per member to Accacia.
Or is my math bad?


http://www.hiphop-elements.com/images/252.jpg

Honeyslut 01-08-2004 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AlienQ
2% of $25.00 per member makes 5 cents per member to Accacia.
Or is my math bad?


Don't forget the 1500 fee plus the other fees that they added

Ben-MensNiche 01-08-2004 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AlienQ
2% of $25.00 per member makes 5 cents per member to Accacia.
Or is my math bad?

2500 x 0.02 = 50 (or $0.50)

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 01-08-2004 08:14 PM

I know it is "Convoluted" math but think about it.
Explaines why I am a designer I suppose...
In more sense than one.


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