Damn this thread moves quickly...

or really????

do you mind if I quote her PM, one before last?

do you?

I bought a pinned thread for 750 once, and this is how he repays me...

typical of serge

ok, I don't wanna starve pimpdog to death,
go eat, so shall I,
and we continue when I get back....either you like it or not
;-))))

i cant speak for her, but since when do you need someones permission to post private logs? its never stopped you before scumbag.

go eat, we'll go over it when I get back....

I guarantee 5 MORE pages of it in thsi thread
;-))))

excellent, thanks dad

will be back in 1 hr, we shal continue

YES, I am a SCUMBAG,
but I am NOT rip off artist like you...at least anymore
;-))))

I need 3 hours....but..
"I'll be back!"
;-))))

"150 webmasters that prefer making money with EpicCash"


Like I said if this epic shit didn't shave so much then they'd have some good typein traffic from me and others..
STOP YOUR SCAMING! then you'll survive like the rest of the sponsors get back to the basics. this is a message for all sponsors.. the shaving and frauding will catch up to you more quickly now adays.. the end is near for alot of you..
mark Jive's words.:2 cents:

What about the option to fight? You don't mention that option, why?

Nothing personal here..... but I would have far greater respect for a company that chose to fight the acacia extortionists. I'll tell you with assurance that if there was news of a program like adult.com throwing in with those that are fighting Acacia, there would be an uproar of acclaim and cheering for Lensman and his company. That's a fact, that thread would be the exact REVERSE of this one. Why? Think about it.

There is mention here of "protecting our affiliates".... then in another breath it is mentioned "We have not disclosed your info to Acacia and never will"...... then how will acacia know who is your affiliate and who isn't? If you did it to protect your affiliates, how will acacia know whom to pass by and whom to go after? Information on affiliates must be shared at some point, no?

Just questions... not hostile. I'm not attacking, I'm just wanting to draw out information.


People, Acacia isn't going anywhere until they are beaten soundly in court. Period. Carrie's post about them was one of the best I've read so far, I suggest everyone go back and read it again, because many of you defending the settlers need a reality check.

And lastly.... someone asked something like "why do you people think you have a right to say anything about the business decisions of a company??".... I can answer that. Webmasters have a right to comment on this because the so-called "business decisions" of these companies affect us all, they affect the entire industry. You bet your ass I have a right (and a duty) to comment loudly when I see something going on that I know is not good for the future of our industry. I've made my living 100% from online ventures for nearly 5 years now, a big part of my livelihood depends on these decisions by certain companies.

Surely we can all agree that Acacia needs to be defeated. If that is the case, then settling shouldn't be an option. I would have more respect for a company that chose to throw in with those already fighting, and FIGHT. I'm sure they would welcome another brother-in-arms standing up for *our* side. My decision is to support such companies, I've donated to the IMPA.... have you? I cannot in good consience support companies that have caved in and settled and at the same time say I support the group that is fighting it. Call it a business decision..... designed to protect ALL webmasters, not just one's own affiliates.

Thank you.

I've some stupid stuff, but EpicCash shaving... Come the fuck on, that's a stretch...

Euh... can't you make sure your business is safe from being shutdown and fight at the same time?

Is that so unpossible? (don't know if epic is doing that but it is possible)

And the "you are paying accacia to get after us webmasters" excuse is bullshit IMHO. IF their patent is valid they'll win and otherways they will dissapear silently

I wonder how all of you are going to react when some of the none-settlement sponsors are shut down or the domains you are sending to (davidlace lost his domain because of accacia). I don't believe anyone who gas settled is doing it because they want to.

Sorry, but the points you are trying to put forth here are stupid. If a lot of you guys feel this way then I am truly nervous about this industry. The more companies that settle, the harder it will be to defeat the patent.... what part of that statement don't you get?

Acacia will not "fade away silently".... they will keep coming after us continuously, always, forever.... unless they are beaten. And if you know anything about the prior art in this case, if you know anything about this case at all, you'd know that their patent is invalid, it just has to be proven in court.

I'm sorry, but you're either WITH the cause of fighting, or you're against it. I don't hear anything from the companies on that list saying that they are donating large sums of money to those doing the actual fighting, do you? Enuff said.



And it's "IMpossible"... UNpossible is a word used in cartoons.

One other point here........

I don't agree with the title of this thread, from the standpoint that it is not right to single out only one company on Acacia's list of those who have settled. It is not right to single one out like this and yell for a boycott. It comes off as being quite malicious.

The list is actually THIS long.....


smutbucks.com
primecash.com
falcondollars.com
megapornbucks.com
cecash.com
venuscash.com
buttbucks.com
ten.com
trafficcashgold.com
zooted.com
wickedbucks.com
vividcash.com
flyntdigital.com
candidcash.com
platinumbucks.com
sexedcash.com
epiccash.com
adultmegacash.com
jerocash.com
pornkings.com
dormbucks.com
adultpaymaster.com
chichiclicks.com
creamycash.com
gloryholecitycash.com
ddgcash.com


People, let's keep things in perspective.

damn this is awful! Im pulling my own links too!

I have only recently signed up to Epic Cash, and haven't really sent any traffic yet. I was not willing to not promote them based "solely" on the fact they signed with Acacia. However, as this thread went along, the maturity (or lack thereof) level of the people here representing Epic truly scared me. I was seriously thinking "No way in fucking hell these are people I care to promote." Their responses to affiliates such as
"Who are you?"
"I don't need your 3 clicks" etc.
Was truly pathetic. Then along came media. Thank you for bringing some maturity and respect to your company.:thumbsup

who are you?

lol j/k

you must not be very bright to actually take the time to respond to this thread about how un professional we are. did you even read it? I will respond to threads in a professional way once someone has something professional to say.

some dumbass wants to boycott us cause we made the same business decission that 50 other companies did? is that even logical thinking?

and on this list I tried to send quality traffic to 90% of these sponsors on this list and guess what? they are all shaving the fuck out everyone or is it just me.. I also think there's a few missing on this list.. whats up with the over all future of the online industry.. the shill list above will surely grow with time..:321GFY

Don't get too riled up over the board pissing ... I've known Trey and Media for 5 yrs and trust me, they care about every click. Saying something like 'noooo, please don't remove our links' kinda ruins your street cred though.

man are you for real???

all you do is call someone cheats or shaving fucks.

ok. so cecash is on the list...
Should we stop using ARS now? ARS is using CEmags on their exits, so ARS is supporting accacia aswell now? Fight accacia, don't fight each other.

Yeah, you should stop using ARS... for other reasons as well :Graucho

Oh, I am not riled up at all. :) Just thought I would comment. I think if either of them had handled it the way media did from the get-go, there may not have been a pissing match. OK, it is GFY, but maybe they would not have looked so stupid. The response I get from p1mpdogg is that I am not very bright? Yes p1mpdogg I read the entire stupid thread. Epic Cash will not be on the new ads I put up this week. While that may not be a big deal to p1mpdogg, it is a matter of ethics for me. I would not have replied to this thread at all, except I wanted to congratulate media on his maturity. I am sure others are sitting back as well thinking the same as I am. Way to run a business.:thumbsup

Acacia has been contacting people over matters that don't involve hosting video, and this is what Epic is talking about. If you link to Epic, now you don't need to worry about Acacia suing you over contributing to patent infringement involving Epic.

So if you run a TGP or submit galleries and don't host any video yourself and only link to sponsors who've signed, Acacia can't touch you in court.

As far as I know they haven't actually filed suit against anyone just for linking, but you've got to believe they'll start testing that in court at some point this year. It's only a matter of time before a large TGP who doesn't host video and only links to unsigned sponsers is served.

thanks, going strong for almost 2 years now

OH shit, haha

:1orglaugh

Fuck you Serge!

Wow, Stocktrader and I agree on something. :thumbsup

Wizzo, you're a great guy. The company you work for however, made the wrong decision in *my* opinion. You guys just helped open the door to more lawsuits and licenses and helped fund it all.
USA Video has already stated publically that the list of Acacia licensees will be their first stop when they turn to adult. You guys on the list have set a precedent that you roll over easily. :(

My take on this is 1) why single out Epic? 2) at least theygot some protection for THEIR webmasters out of the deal.

Am sure this has been covered but too lazy to read 4 pages

You did not settle to protect your affiliates to say so is an insult to anyone with a shred of intelligence

Why don't you state the facts, you settled in EC's own best interest

Nothing wrong with acting in your best interests, that's admirable

Trying to candywrap it as doing it for your affiliates is deplorable and insulting

You're a lying piece of shit, I'm sorry people, I'm pissed, so I'm
voicing it.

Without Affiliates, what good is a affiliate program?

No one wants to address this point. I guess we'll have to wait until that fateful day when programs start receiving letters from this company demanding money for their patent..... then it may begin to dawn on some as to what they've done to themselves and to the adult industry.

... you are a gentleman by trade.

Wizzo save the candywrapping for someone who's buying it

EC and all the companies that have settled did so in what they believe is their own best interest

Not to save their affiliates (and I am not 100% certain that any agreement so far with Acacia covers affiliates, not saying it doesn't but if you b.s. once it's not a far stretch to b.s. twice.... plus Acacia is a extortion operation so can you trust them, even with what your attorneys say)

but to do what is best for that particular company

Again that's great

To try to sell it is something else to anyone who knows better is stupid and insulting

Just admit it

we held out for 3 months.

yea we sold out. big deal.

when you have a successful business at risk, you do what you have todo to.

our affiliates are protected.

get fucked if you dont agree with OUR decission. its our business to run how we see fit.

Absolutely. Good point.

he had a point in that comment?

Just because someone settles with someone else that is sueing them over some bullshit, that means they are supporting them?

have you ever ran a business? if so, how long did it last?