Trent Edison

I signed up with Flyntdigital at the beginning of their $100 per signup promo. At that moment this stuff looked really great and I thought I can get a little share too. I put together low-budget Google AdWords campaign and started to push some targeted traffic to 4 of their sites. I also directed some toplist traffic to a couple. Everything was smooth and at the end of the promo I had 4 sales in my stats. Not quite a lot some of you might say, but still its $400 that wouldnt be out of place. Wires should be sent out no later than January,10 and everything was cool. But yesterday I have received the following message:

"Dear Webmaster,

Your FlyntDigital account has been terminated and any revenues-due forfeited because of program fraud by use of credit card. We take this type of fraud very seriously and will share your account information with other webmaster programs to insure that they not be cheated.

Please be advised that you are no longer authorized to advertise or otherwise promote any FlyntDigital sites or the FlyntDigital program.

FlyntDigital"

I couldnt believe my fucking eyes. Just like that without rhyme or reason I was accused at credit card fraud. That just really looked like some big bullshit. I asked to at least give me some details of what did they mean "program fraud by use of credit card", but heard no single word from them. My account was terminated and I even dont have a clue what was wrong.
Is that the way sponsors handle their "huge promos" these days? They announce high commissions, taking advantage of the traffic flow that comes their way, and then just cut loose webmasters, showing up with some lame accussions of credit card fraud? It looks like no more than a cheap fucking scam. And I guess if it happened like that with Flyntdigital, none of their webmaster can feel safe that he wont be kicked one day being said some unbelieveable crap that he is a cheater, spammer, pedophile or whatsoever...
I dont want to look like lame whining biatch and ready to provide all possible proof that I promoted their sites honestly and all those credit card fraud calls are complete bullshit. I wont miss a lot neither $150 that I spent through the AdWords, nor the traffic I send to Flyntdigital. But those lame accuses and treating fair webmasters like idiots are what really makes me mad.
Heres the snapshots of my AdWords campaign I used to send traffic to Flyntdigital:
http://www.32r.com/campaign.jpg
http://www.32r.com/1_bustyb.jpg
http://www.32r.com/2_legworld.jpg
http://www.32r.com/3_hustler.jpg
http://www.32r.com/4_jenna.jpg

Currently ads are showing up as disapproved, because Google AdWords Terms do not allow links with pop-up windows, and as you may know all Flyntdigital sites have a big entering pop-up. But before I discovered that clause in Google's Editorial Guidelines and admins turned off the ads like 6 days after I created them, I was able to put some clicks to four Flyntdigital sites as you can see. And those are basically the ones that generated sales. Everything is real, as real as Jenna Jameson's ass, Flyntdigital received my traffic and signups, but never paid. I have nothing but to assume that their sweet sugar $100 per signup promo is a lame dirty little scam...

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Ani D

interesting

washiez

that sucks to hear..

AdultMovies.bz

Thats pretty fucked up right there

elric

Great post. That's one more sponsor to avoid.

twistyneck

I would never trust any company that settled with Acacia. Guess you learned your lesson.

SomeCreep

Sucks to not get any response from Hustler. Maybe 3 of the 4 people that signed up charge backed and reported "fraud" as their reason for charging back.

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TonyL

Weak.

Trent Edison

Well, I dont think you can expect that from surfers lead by Google ad. This traffic is very targeted. I promoted some other programs that way and everything was just cool...

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inthestars

Very very fucked up. Are they willing to work with you at all or is that the final word?

twistyneck

Good question. They were willing to work with Acacia, you'd think that they'd want to work with a webmaster that was willing to send $150 worth of Google traffic.

- AFN -

Somebody got fucked? in the adult biz? Is that possible?! (smirk)

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Vitasoy

damn, let's hear their story..

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basschick

months ago, it seemed that flynt digital closed our account and we hadn't even made a sale *LOL* we couldn't log in, so i wrote.

then i wrote again and asked what was up. after a couple emails, someone (i think her name is tara?) told me to write to another email address. i decided not to bother - they made it too much work.

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Paul Markham

I think this says it all. They care very little about affiliates otherwise they would have fought Acacia.

And you can bet your information is not being supplied to Acacia from a company that is fighting them.

The list of sign ups.

smutbucks.com
primecash.com
falcondollars.com
megapornbucks.com
cecash.com
venuscash.com
buttbucks.com
ten.com
trafficcashgold.com
zooted.com
wickedbucks.com
vividcash.com
flyntdigital.com
candidcash.com
platinumbucks.com
sexedcash.com
e*p*iccash.com (lol@ingrate)
adultmegacash.com
jerocash.com
pornkings.com
dormbucks.com
adultpaymaster.com
chichiclicks.com
gloryholecitycash.com
ddgcash.com

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Theo

Trent Edison, FD people are in Vegas from what I know.

Exactly the same thing happened to me before summer with icecoldcash. A transaction failed in AVS (address verification system) in 1 of the 3 first sales and the system flagged me as a fraudulent webmaster. Although their mistake was recognised and I received an apology, they didnt pay me and they never paid any of their webmasters.

Flyntdigital has nothing to do with icecoldcash. It's a good program, with history on paying webmasters on time and their promo definitely wasn't scam. If you have legit claims I can see you to be angry. Wait for them to return, give them access to your adwords stats (that's what i would do) and I believe things will work out.

From what I know affiliates are getting flagged by the processors first. A year ago this wouldn't have happened, but thanks to all new visa regulations affiliate programs need to stay below 1% cb ratio and the limits of identifying some as legit or non legit are very small.....

get in contact with them within the next days....

Trent Edison

So, if nobody wasnt in place, who sent the email and who terminated the account so I wasnt able to login? You saying it was all made automatically by a robot or what?

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Brujah

You may have been flagged and it may not have been your fault, etc.. You might have better luck reaching someone to look into it after they get back. This has happened before. ARS has done it also if I'm not mistaken for example, but they usually clear it up pretty fast. Good luck with it.

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Theo

all im saying is that you'll get a better response when they'll be back. if you check their support forum thay are away from there too.

Jace

From the wording of the email it sounds that way....Very common right now with the visa shit going on

Wait until mid-next week, when all the convention hub-ub is over and see if someone calls you back...if they don't, research, find their #, and call them direct.....and don't stop til you find out

$400 may not be much cash, but it sure can buy a few nice things.

Trent Edison

We'll see next week...

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Rich

Doesn't shock me at all, that whole program stinks. if Larry Flint knew how his name was being represented online he'd be ashamed.

Trax

thats a weak comment without and point

you gotto back such a point by arguements
i can say:
rich is a moron and a cheater

but it would be a useless comment without proof
you know what i mean?
im sure you do

Trent Edison

Still, never experienced anything like that with any affiliate program I worked with.

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DaLord

Sounds a lot like the insane shit ARS can come up with.
They sure can come up with some shitty lies just to make a few bucks extra.

Carrie

I agree with Soul.
Wait until someone is back in the office and then talk to them rationally. Lots of these things *are* done automatically by a machine and it's up to the webmaster support people to sort out who deserved it and who didn't.
From the point of the program owner, it's better to cut off a potential fraudster first and take a look at it later. If you spend the time investigating it while the person's account is still enabled, you run the risk of even more fraudulent transactions until you can get things verified.
For the honest webmaster it sucks but it's the only way to protect the program.

I had Sextree cut off my account once for questionable traffic. I sent them the full URLs of where I was sending traffic from, gave them logins and everything. Once someone actually took a look at it they apologized and re-enabled my account.

pamphage

i have nothing to add except it makes me genuinly sad to see shit like this

hopefully they will eventually get back to you and at least explain what happened.

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kush2

Well, this was shitty.
But if you look at it from FlyntDigital's side, what if half of the signups you sent (2 in this case) were used by surfers as credit card fraud?

It wouldn't be your fault, but I'm sure it's in FD's terms that signups from fraud will not be paid for.

What do you think?

Also, my guess is that people did shit like have their friends sign up for trials and stuff like that. I'm not saying you did, but it's something shitty that people (many on this board) probably did in an effort to make some quick cash. So my guess is that FD investigated accounts with suspicious behavoir very closy and that they probably acted more liberally with their "terminate key" than normal.

Comments?

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Trent Edison

As I already said I send dozens of signups from Google ads to other programs and everything was just fine. Why should it go other way with Flyntdigital? Because of $100 per signup promo?

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http://www.acaciatechnologies.com/pr...edSponsors.pdf

kush2

Anomalies do happen.

Anybody who sends enough signups consistently will surely have some fraud/chargebacks in their signups from their surfers once in awhile. You can't control, but it can happen.

Perhaps this instance with your account on FlyntDigital was one of these anomalies. I wouldn't know, but like I said, I'm guessing that they did keep a closer eye out for this type of stuff during their $100 promo than they normally do.

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Zappu

I think nobody should care about shavings of companies which are on this list. If webmasters are still working with them, let's them be shaved as hell

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Seb From Holland

Hahahahahaha you actually paid max $0.40 per click? Fucking hell! You screwed yourself over.

V_RocKs

Would it help you to know Flint got hacked? If you did business with them, call your CC company and cancel the card.

SleazyDream

i'll never understand why cheaters WHINE on GFY?

you'd think they'd just realize they got caught and try something different?

no no no - they always think they are smarter than every one else.

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Corleone

that sucks

Zorgman

Something like this happened to me and Platinum Bucks, they terminated my account without talking to me about it, they found NO information of me cheating and it was only because the surfer wouldn't continue to full membership that they killed my account, oh yeah... and 2 fraud payments which from what I have been told are MY fault. ALL RIGHTY THEN!

Sometimes this business sucks but look at it this way, there are many sponsors out there, some you will find will do this to us and some that will take good care of us. It's all trial and error.

Sorry to hear you lost your $400.

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Trent Edison

OK, then I just want you to learn on my error.

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Meloman

For anyone reading this thread later on during a search for "
Flynt Digital" here's the real scoop about Trent And Flynt

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=221220

Read Ken's post on page 2.

Hustler DJ

Just in case you're not seeing it in the other thread, here's Ken's response. I think it speaks for itself...

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Regarding Trent Edison,

Here are the facts straight from our fraud control dept.

1. He signed up with FlyntDigital for the first time to take advantage of the $100 promo. Nothing wrong with that, but those big promos do tend to attract cheaters.

2. He used a Check Cashing Business as the "payee name" when he signed up. This was the first red flag.

3. He gave us a bogus Tax ID. When we asked him for a correct one, he decided he wanted a wire instead and he asked that we change his Payee name to a Russian name. Surprise, surprise....

4. He had 4 sign-ups. All 4 canceled. Again, big surprise here....

Anyone still think that FlyntDigital screwed Trent? Give me a fucking break.

Some people might not like FlyntDigital because of Acacia, or because they don't like Larry or whatever. To each his own.

However, we run an honest program and we've never screwed anyone. Period.

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Cheaters suck.

Now, if you wanna get to know FlyntDigital for yourself, check out our current $50 payout promotion on $9.95 monthly signups, as discussed in this thread or on our site. And please hit one of us up directly if you've got any questions...

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AssFairy

Are you related to 12pricks ?
he has the same BULLSHIT attitude that sponsors never cheat, get some toilet roll and clean your mouth because your talking shit.

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SleazyDream

i take that as a complement.

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DBS.US

I was doing the same $100 Flynt Digital program and got paid $700.00 with no problems

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Mr. Jim

This could have been addressed more appropriately

I know the whole team over there and if you did not cheat it must have been coincidental all the flags popped.

If you are trying to make them look like scammers good luck.

They have the biggest name in adult Entertainment they would not risk it for $700.00

Ken will lose more in change in his couch this week.

Until you have spoken with the head of the company this post is foolsh

Get all the answers before calling someone out...I bet Ken or Bruce were not contacted

SmutGiant

Definetly stay away from Cashforlink.com. Never paid me, nor replied to my e-mails. There have been many many unpaid webmasters promoting their stuff.

Also, Inter gal.com. Never paid me. They claim 50% of the signups resulted in chargebacks.

I sent each of these programs 4 signups each. It's a shame I couldn't send more, as they had damn good converting sites

Ash@phpFX

good we got to hear the other side of the story too

SmutGiant

Oh shit, just realized I posted in the wrong thread. Meant to post in the trusted sponsors one, lol... sorry boot that, eh? lol

baddog

hahaha - clueless. Larry Flynt spoke at the XBiz Awards and he is quite pleased with the results of his Internet ventures from what he told all of us.

As far as FD scamming their affiliates, I beg to differ. Hooking up with them was one of the best things I have ever done, and I know for sure they are not scamming us in any way, shape, or form.

webgurl

i had issues with the 100 bucks promotional payouts as well .....
It really scared the shit out of me cause i thought my sign ups for December 2003 were deleted , cause when i checked my stats for 2004 on their brand new layout it was GONE ...... However,
Things got straighten out though with my rep .... once again sending them my traffic

seven

Ass kissing? just kidding it's all good.

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