Any ideas re impact of new VISA regs on sponsors? - GoFuckYourself.com

$5 submissions · 01-07-2004, 03:40 PM

Anybody know when the effects of the new VISA regs will kick in? Some say March, others say as early as January. Which is it?

sandman! · 01-07-2004, 03:46 PM

Yesterday

rockbear · 01-07-2004, 03:48 PM

Which new rules?

- AFN - · 01-07-2004, 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rockbear
Which new rules?

I think he's referring to the 1% new Chargeback limit. Given the number of $10 or micropayment models out there, it seems many sponsors have gotten around this problem.

The big news would be if cross sales were limited. Now that would be big.

$5 submissions · 01-08-2004, 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by - AFN -

I think he's referring to the 1% new Chargeback limit. Given the number of $10 or micropayment models out there, it seems many sponsors have gotten around this problem.

The big news would be if cross sales were limited. Now that would be big.

Not all bigger programs are using the micropayment model. This is definitely an issue worth keeping an eye on in the near future.

iluvasians · 01-08-2004, 06:46 PM

anyone have a link to more information on this?

JSA Matt · 01-08-2004, 06:48 PM

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I sure could use a vacation from this

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Here in this hopeless fucking hole we call LA
The only way to fix it is to flush it all away.
Any fucking time. Any fucking day.
Learn to swim, I'll see you down in Arizona bay.

Fret for your figure and
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Fret for your hairpiece and
Fret for your lawsuit and
Fret for your prozac and
Fret for your pilot and
Fret for your contract and
Fret for your car.

It's a
Bullshit three ring circus sideshow of
Freaks

Here in this hopeless fucking hole we call LA
The only way to fix it is to flush it all away.
Any fucking time. Any fucking day.
Learn to swim, I'll see you down in Arizona bay.

Some say a comet will fall from the sky.
Followed by meteor showers and tidal waves.
Followed by faultlines that cannot sit still.
Followed by millions of dumbfounded dipshits.

Some say the end is near.
Some say we'll see armageddon soon.
I certainly hope we will cuz
I sure could use a vacation from this

Silly shit, stupid shit...

One great big festering neon distraction,
I've a suggestion to keep you all occupied.

Learn to swim.

Mom's gonna fix it all soon.
Mom's comin' round to put it back the way it ought to be.

Learn to swim.

Fuck L Ron Hubbard and
Fuck all his clones.
Fuck all those gun-toting
Hip gangster wannabes.

Learn to swim.

Fuck retro anything.
Fuck your tattoos.
Fuck all you junkies and
Fuck your short memory.

Learn to swim.

Fuck smiley glad-hands
With hidden agendas.
Fuck these dysfunctional,
Insecure actresses.

Learn to swim.

Cuz I'm praying for rain
And I'm praying for tidal waves
I wanna see the ground give way.
I wanna watch it all go down.
Mom please flush it all away.
I wanna watch it go right in and down.
I wanna watch it go right in.
Watch you flush it all away.

Time to bring it down again.
Don't just call me pessimist.
Try and read between the lines.

I can't imagine why you wouldn't
Welcome any change, my friend.

I wanna see it all come down.
suck it down.
flush it down.

Mr. Marks · 01-08-2004, 08:46 PM

Why not post the lyrics to "The End of The World" by REM?

Frankly, I don't understand why webmasters are sleeping on this issue. Expect a big hit...continuously... until the next big VISA announcement.

Quote:

Originally posted by JSA Matt
Some say the end is near.
Some say we'll see armageddon soon.
I certainly hope we will.
I sure could use a vacation from this

Bullshit three ring circus sideshow of
Freaks

Here in this hopeless fucking hole we call LA
The only way to fix it is to flush it all away.
Any fucking time. Any fucking day.
Learn to swim, I'll see you down in Arizona bay.

Fret for your figure and
Fret for your latte and
Fret for your hairpiece and
Fret for your lawsuit and
Fret for your prozac and
Fret for your pilot and
Fret for your contract and
Fret for your car.

It's a
Bullshit three ring circus sideshow of
Freaks

Here in this hopeless fucking hole we call LA
The only way to fix it is to flush it all away.
Any fucking time. Any fucking day.
Learn to swim, I'll see you down in Arizona bay.

Some say a comet will fall from the sky.
Followed by meteor showers and tidal waves.
Followed by faultlines that cannot sit still.
Followed by millions of dumbfounded dipshits.

Some say the end is near.
Some say we'll see armageddon soon.
I certainly hope we will cuz
I sure could use a vacation from this

Silly shit, stupid shit...

One great big festering neon distraction,
I've a suggestion to keep you all occupied.

Learn to swim.

Mom's gonna fix it all soon.
Mom's comin' round to put it back the way it ought to be.

Learn to swim.

Fuck L Ron Hubbard and
Fuck all his clones.
Fuck all those gun-toting
Hip gangster wannabes.

Learn to swim.

Fuck retro anything.
Fuck your tattoos.
Fuck all you junkies and
Fuck your short memory.

Learn to swim.

Fuck smiley glad-hands
With hidden agendas.
Fuck these dysfunctional,
Insecure actresses.

Learn to swim.

Cuz I'm praying for rain
And I'm praying for tidal waves
I wanna see the ground give way.
I wanna watch it all go down.
Mom please flush it all away.
I wanna watch it go right in and down.
I wanna watch it go right in.
Watch you flush it all away.

Time to bring it down again.
Don't just call me pessimist.
Try and read between the lines.

I can't imagine why you wouldn't
Welcome any change, my friend.

I wanna see it all come down.
suck it down.
flush it down.

pradaboy · 01-08-2004, 10:45 PM

I thought the new regulations started Jan. 1st

$5 submissions · 01-14-2004, 01:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by pradaboy
I thought the new regulations started Jan. 1st

Supposedly the fines start kicking in last quarter of last year, this quarter is supposedly the time we'll start seeing its effects.

Matt 26z · 01-14-2004, 01:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by - AFN -
The big news would be if cross sales were limited. Now that would be big.

That wouldn't surprise me since cross sales most of the time are just a way of scamming. People just won't admit it.

You see some of these $30 sites that also have 2 boxes pre-checked @ $30 each. You know nobody out there is knowingly spending $90 in one shot.... all recurring at that.

venus · 01-14-2004, 01:49 AM

I have been on the new visa and mastercard rules for over a year now.
Its had no effect on me.

Quote:

Originally posted by $5 submissions
Anybody know when the effects of the new VISA regs will kick in? Some say March, others say as early as January. Which is it?

Kimmykim · 01-14-2004, 01:54 AM

The 1% rule was put into effect Oct 1 2003 for US based merchants. The non US based merchant rate was lowered as of Jan 1. Visa has the discretion regarding who they will fine, how they will assess fines and whether or not they choose to terminate instead of fining.

Of course people have been getting fined for things for quite a while now, some IPSPs pass on chargeback costs, whether they are punitive or administrative, since they are assessed either way. Those with their own merchant accounts get fined and don't mention it in most of the cases where it occurs. Mind you I'm not saying everyone gets fined, just that more people have issues with situations than would care to admit.

Carrie · 01-14-2004, 02:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by $5 submissions

Supposedly the fines start kicking in last quarter of last year, this quarter is supposedly the time we'll start seeing its effects.

Hey $5, I sent you an email asking some questions about your services; did you get it? (Used the TGP "order services" link to do it)

monro · 01-14-2004, 03:01 AM

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Be prepared for the Visa blow! As no chargeback's is possible in this system, you can accept affiliates from the "forbidden" countries as well.

$5 submissions · 01-14-2004, 03:10 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by monro
check this out

No Visa regulations, no chargeback's! Easy installation.
Take your time looking it over!

In use by one of the biggest dating sites on the net.

Be prepared for the Visa blow! As no chargeback's is possible in this system, you can accept affiliates from the "forbidden" countries as well.

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JSA Matt So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 5,464	Some say the end is near. Some say we'll see armageddon soon. I certainly hope we will. I sure could use a vacation from this Bullshit three ring circus sideshow of Freaks Here in this hopeless fucking hole we call LA The only way to fix it is to flush it all away. Any fucking time. Any fucking day. Learn to swim, I'll see you down in Arizona bay. Fret for your figure and Fret for your latte and Fret for your hairpiece and Fret for your lawsuit and Fret for your prozac and Fret for your pilot and Fret for your contract and Fret for your car. It's a Bullshit three ring circus sideshow of Freaks Here in this hopeless fucking hole we call LA The only way to fix it is to flush it all away. Any fucking time. Any fucking day. Learn to swim, I'll see you down in Arizona bay. Some say a comet will fall from the sky. Followed by meteor showers and tidal waves. Followed by faultlines that cannot sit still. Followed by millions of dumbfounded dipshits. Some say the end is near. Some say we'll see armageddon soon. I certainly hope we will cuz I sure could use a vacation from this Silly shit, stupid shit... One great big festering neon distraction, I've a suggestion to keep you all occupied. Learn to swim. Mom's gonna fix it all soon. Mom's comin' round to put it back the way it ought to be. Learn to swim. Fuck L Ron Hubbard and Fuck all his clones. Fuck all those gun-toting Hip gangster wannabes. Learn to swim. Fuck retro anything. Fuck your tattoos. Fuck all you junkies and Fuck your short memory. Learn to swim. Fuck smiley glad-hands With hidden agendas. Fuck these dysfunctional, Insecure actresses. Learn to swim. Cuz I'm praying for rain And I'm praying for tidal waves I wanna see the ground give way. I wanna watch it all go down. Mom please flush it all away. I wanna watch it go right in and down. I wanna watch it go right in. Watch you flush it all away. Time to bring it down again. Don't just call me pessimist. Try and read between the lines. I can't imagine why you wouldn't Welcome any change, my friend. I wanna see it all come down. suck it down. flush it down.

01-14-2004, 01:54 AM	#13
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	The 1% rule was put into effect Oct 1 2003 for US based merchants. The non US based merchant rate was lowered as of Jan 1. Visa has the discretion regarding who they will fine, how they will assess fines and whether or not they choose to terminate instead of fining. Of course people have been getting fined for things for quite a while now, some IPSPs pass on chargeback costs, whether they are punitive or administrative, since they are assessed either way. Those with their own merchant accounts get fined and don't mention it in most of the cases where it occurs. Mind you I'm not saying everyone gets fined, just that more people have issues with situations than would care to admit.

01-14-2004, 03:01 AM	#15
monro So Fucking Banned Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 787	check this out No Visa regulations, no chargeback's! Easy installation. Take your time looking it over! In use by one of the biggest dating sites on the net. Be prepared for the Visa blow! As no chargeback's is possible in this system, you can accept affiliates from the "forbidden" countries as well.