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Ic3m4nZ 01-03-2004 04:45 PM

200 people promoting the Paris Hilton scam.

Sinicle77 01-03-2004 04:46 PM

i dont know shemp personally.. i only know what ive read from him here.. but in those months..i havnt seen him do anything stupid.. seems like a man that has his shit all in one sock to me. :thumbsup hope i get to meet him in vegas

polish_aristocrat 01-03-2004 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FreeFastHost


I wasn't talking about you.

Yes I know.

Digipimp 01-03-2004 04:48 PM

Moral of the story most of you fucks take GFY way too seriously and that's why I don't like most of you, or well that's one of the reasons why.

:winkwink:

polish_aristocrat 01-03-2004 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Digipimp
Moral of the story most of you fucks take GFY way too seriously and that's why I don't like most of you, or well that's one of the reasons why.

:winkwink:

And I started to like you. :(

Brujah 01-03-2004 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sinicle77
i dont know shemp personally.. i only know what ive read from him here.. but in those months..i havnt seen him do anything stupid.. seems like a man that has his shit all in one sock to me. :thumbsup hope i get to meet him in vegas
That was my thinking too. "If Shemp is doing it, it MUST be ok right ?"

Digipimp 01-03-2004 04:51 PM

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Originally posted by polish_aristocrat

And I started to like you. :(

Awww send me 19.95 and you can be in my fan club, I'm an internet celebrity and I'm just starting to develop a rep on GFY and that's invaluable.

:1orglaugh

Cncr 01-03-2004 04:52 PM

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Originally posted by Ic3m4nZ
200 people promoting the Paris Hilton scam.
You mean 200 people licking Shemp's arse like the post #201 just below yours?

DarkJedi 01-03-2004 04:52 PM

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Originally posted by Brujah
Everyone supporting the program, just don't come crying about new regulations, decreased sponsor payouts, stricter laws in regard to spam, increasing lawsuits, harsher penalties and best of all.. anyone else that cheats you, copies you or frauds you in any way.


http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=216483

HELLO ??

Digipimp 01-03-2004 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cncr


You mean 200 people licking Shemp's arse like the post #201 just below yours?

Hey most of the people on GFY as of late are all about the ass licking, it's a trend.

:1orglaugh

polish_aristocrat 01-03-2004 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DarkJedi




http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=216483

HELLO ??

Ok Brujah, I don't like you anymore. :(

polish_aristocrat 01-03-2004 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by polish_aristocrat

Ok Brujah, I don't like you anymore. :(

Oh shit, I forgot who is Brujah and who is Digipimp, LOL :1orglaugh

Cncr 01-03-2004 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Digipimp


Hey most of the people on GFY as of late are all about the ass licking, it's a trend.

:1orglaugh

Yeah I've noticed that through the years... :Oh crap

KRL 01-03-2004 04:58 PM

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Originally posted by Digipimp


150 kiss asses afraid to say anything. Pussies.


What took you so long? And do you have spam arrest on your mail account, I'm going to resend you a men.com question if that's cool.

What E-Mail address are you using? Haven't gotten anything.

Digipimp 01-03-2004 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL


What E-Mail address are you using? Haven't gotten anything.

This is one I saw you post in a thread [email protected]

I'll resend real quick it's coming from [email protected]

Brujah 01-03-2004 05:01 PM

There's an immense difference in my opinion between advantageous marketing (TrafficCashGold) and flat out lying (Jon Atherton) and scamming.

If you can't see it, you need help.

The Other Steve 01-03-2004 05:02 PM

Don't you just love people who think that if you have an opinion you're either a hater or an arse kisser?

Just goes to show who the true losers are in this thread.

pussyluver 01-03-2004 05:07 PM

Five pages, whew!!


End of thread! Someone start a new one if this is to continue.

Cncr 01-03-2004 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Other Steve
Don't you just love people who think that if you have an opinion you're either a hater or an arse kisser?

Just goes to show who the true losers are in this thread.

The weird thing is no-one has an opinion in this thread. "Shemp can do what he wants..." "It's Shemp's site and he is cool guy, mind your own business..."

I just checked out the PH video and that was almost as sad as this thread turned out to be...

The Other Steve 01-03-2004 05:22 PM

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Originally posted by Cncr


The weird thing is no-one has an opinion in this thread. "Shemp can do what he wants..." "It's Shemp's site and he is cool guy, mind your own business..."


WRONG - what you just quoted IS a valid opinion.

It mightn't be one that you're happy with and it might be held by the majority of posters in this thread but none of those things stop it from being an opinion.

And just because many people hold that opinion does not mean that they are arse kissers.

I've disagreed vehemently with Shemp on other boards so you would hardly describe me as an arse kisser but I do tend to agree with the opinion that it's his site and he can do what he wants with it.

sacX 01-03-2004 06:50 PM

I shouldn't be surprised that most people on here support a blatently scamming site, but I am :(

- Jesus Christ - 01-03-2004 06:51 PM

Lets get the cocks out of our mouths and boil this down.

1. Oracle Porn has been and always will be an idiot.

2. Shemp promotes a scam on his front entrance page.


THE FUCKING END.

Opinions are worthless and the fact that some of you morons would think that stating the obvious fact the paris hilton thing is a scam and that shemp has it on his main site amounts to burning bridges just proves your a worthless COCKSUCKER.

It is a scam.... I promote it. I spamed google with it. Yippie. I dont give a fuck but all you suck-ups need to face the facts. Its a scam... shemp promotes it. Move on. Oracle porn should be looked down upon for many reasons, but not for starting a thread that was in no way insulting (at first) all he did was state facts.

Kimmykim 01-03-2004 07:10 PM

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Originally posted by Brujah


That was my thinking too. "If Shemp is doing it, it MUST be ok right ?"

As much as I love Shemp, I can only hope he jumps off a bridge tonight. Before he goes to Vegas.

rebel23 01-03-2004 08:03 PM

listen to Brujah, he is a smart!

PH scam is a joke and if someone wants to promote it or are paid to advertise it a long with all those idiots clogging up my inbox with that crap then that's entirely up to them. people will be judgemental whether you like it or not

everyone knows that PH scam is damaging.

Jamdin 01-03-2004 09:57 PM

Can someone read this thread to me...my eyes started to wear out on page two...

12clicks 01-03-2004 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kmanrox


why is it every time you post i feel like say 'what he said'?

because you have a long history of enjoying being right?

tcg 01-03-2004 11:00 PM

It never ceases to amaze me how really fucking stupid some can be in this industry. But then again I'll consider the source of this thread.

I've known Shemp for a damn long time, and anyone that would question him or his ethics is certainly a loser in my book, a loser in the industry, and a loser in life. Perhaps you should piss off and go open a warez site or something.

What a dickhead. You should be the poster boy for retroactive abortions.

:321GFY

404 01-03-2004 11:35 PM

i love the way they cram a shitload of terms and conditions into a tiny window

http://www.pzest.com/pop/mem_terms.html

scammers, sycophants and assorted ethics-bereft mercenaries... :321GFY

Kimmykim 01-03-2004 11:43 PM

Damn, no jumpers yet I see.

stocktrader23 01-03-2004 11:47 PM

In this corner....Weighing in a a combined 200,000 posts Oracle Porn and the newbs.....

In the other corner, weighing in at just under 18,000 posts.......the long time duo......KimmyKim and 12Clicks

Let's get it on.

ZakAttack 01-03-2004 11:53 PM

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Originally posted by pamphage
there is a difference between having integrity with your fellow webmasters and jerking around surfers. sad to say pretty much everyone on this board jerks surfers around one way or another.

the best you can hope for is honor among thieves, and from everything i've ever heard or read Shemp is a standup guy when it comes to fellow webmasters.


Agreed. The customers are just some big abstraction, you can't care about that. As long as people are honest at the interpersonal level and do what they promise they going to do and don't flake out, i'm fine. A lot of people can't even handle honesty at that level though.

stocktrader23 01-03-2004 11:55 PM

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Originally posted by pamphage
there is a difference between having integrity with your fellow webmasters and jerking around surfers. sad to say pretty much everyone on this board jerks surfers around one way or another.

the best you can hope for is honor among thieves, and from everything i've ever heard or read Shemp is a standup guy when it comes to fellow webmasters.

"exactly. im amazed that people would promote something that is so blatantly full of fraud. he's a thief. if he bangs the surfers he'll bang the webmasters even more."

"how is that the same thing as promising something that doesnt even exist. someone wins the powerball eventually so its not a scam.

its more akin to having a lottery for immortal life, when of course there is no such fucking thing as immortality."

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...+ Hilton+scam

Kimmykim 01-03-2004 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by stocktrader23
In this corner....Weighing in a a combined 200,000 posts Oracle Porn and the newbs.....

In the other corner, weighing in at just under 18,000 posts.......the long time duo......KimmyKim and 12Clicks

Let's get it on.

long time for a reason :)

stocktrader23 01-04-2004 12:00 AM

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Originally posted by Kimmykim


long time for a reason :)

Just 1? :glugglug

Honeyslut 01-04-2004 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sarah - GSS
I don't think it is anybody's business how someone else runs their own site. Why should you care, it doesn't effect you? Just my :2 cents:
and I suppose you think $200 scamming sites don't have anything to do with Visa's crackdown to this industry.

:1orglaugh

Rictor 01-04-2004 12:18 AM

As usual, GFY is as month behind the times:

http://bbs.porncity.net/showthread.p...=shemp+p aris

Kimmykim 01-04-2004 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by stocktrader23


Just 1? :glugglug

The operative words are long and term in this case.

ZakAttack 01-04-2004 12:36 AM

so would anybody mind telling me where i can get a merchant account like the one those porn cash guys must have?

Come on... somebody knows...

Any of you processors know?

Digipimp 01-04-2004 12:47 AM

I have a dream that one day webmasters can scam the surfers without fear of chargeback or lowering of chargeback fee levels. Where $200 charge scams promising things that they don't have seem like nickels in the bucket of a scammers porn empire. Where I am elite and no one questions me because I make them money. I have a great vision for the industry and when I get there I'll still hate all of you.

:1orglaugh

(disclaimer for lady mischief: these comments are not a direct comment on the moral character of said man shemp, they are merely a generalized statement on the people on the industry and in no way do they reflect the views of the company with the HPA in my sig)

CDSmith 01-04-2004 01:18 AM

So let's see if I have this in perspective here..... the gist of the objection is that this Paris Hilton program is a scam. Basically the promo says the movie is 42 minutes when in fact it is only 5 minutes, yes? Okay, let me ask you this then..... since tons of webmasters promote penis pills that promise guys a bigger dick yet obviously don't work, how come none of you opinionaters are squawking at the top of your lungs about that? If the pills don't work, is that not a rip-off also?


I don't promote Paris Hilton, I don't promote penis pills. I've never promoted dialers either. I simply don't care to, it's a personal decision as well as business, based on my personal standard of ethics. BUT, if a client wants to pay me for an ad spot so <i>they</i> can promote it, I have no objection there. Surfers wouldn't be seeking out the keywords "Paris Hilton" if they weren't wanting to see her get laid, and adult companies wouldn't be promoting it if surfers weren't buying memberships in droves. If Shemp takes down the ad do you really think that's going to fix anything? Get real.


Besides, the Paris Hilton bullshit will be old very soon. In a few months the only people still talking about it will be geeks and retards.

Mr. Mojo Risin 01-04-2004 01:23 AM

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Originally posted by CDSmith
So let's see if I have this in perspective here..... the gist of the objection is that this Paris Hilton program is a scam. Basically the promo says the movie is 42 minutes when in fact it is only 5 minutes, yes? Okay, let me ask you this then..... since tons of webmasters promote penis pills that promise guys a bigger dick yet obviously don't work, how come none of you opinionaters are squawking at the top of your lungs about that? If the pills don't work, is that not a rip-off also?


I don't promote Paris Hilton, I don't promote penis pills. I've never promoted dialers either. I simply don't care to, it's a personal decision as well as business, based on my personal standard of ethics. BUT, if a client wants to pay me for an ad spot so <i>they</i> can promote it, I have no objection there. Surfers wouldn't be seeking out the keywords "Paris Hilton" if they weren't wanting to see her get laid, and adult companies wouldn't be promoting it if surfers weren't buying memberships in droves. If Shemp takes down the ad do you really think that's going to fix anything? Get real.


Besides, the Paris Hilton bullshit will be old very soon. In a few months the only people still talking about it will be geeks and retards.

good point... penis pills are just as bad

Rictor 01-04-2004 01:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by CDSmith Okay, let me ask you this then..... since tons of webmasters promote penis pills that promise guys a bigger dick yet obviously don't work, how come none of you opinionaters are squawking at the top of your lungs about that? If the pills don't work, is that not a rip-off also?
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Penis pills are a dirty scam. I'd never promote them. I never got into dialers when they first came around because I didn't approve of those either. Everyone has to decide for themselves what they will and won't promote. That's where I draw the line in the sand but everyone is entitled to running their own business their way.

Mr. Mojo Risin 01-04-2004 01:30 AM

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Originally posted by Mr. Mojo Risin


good point... penis pills are just as bad

and i didn't mean this as an insult to Shemp.. he can do what he pleases...

Mr. Mojo Risin 01-04-2004 01:33 AM

the fact is there are a lot of so called scams in business... like those tv commericals that advertise such things as internal cell phone antennas....


it's a dog eat dog world... sometimes you need to use guerilla tactics, though I personally wouldn't ...

Theo 01-04-2004 01:34 AM

This thread shouldn't have shemp's site, since it could be any of the 100s tgps that promote the paris hilton sextape or any of the thousands webmasters, paysite owners, mailers etc

In the thread I made about it, I said if you are a small webmaster that lives cheque by cheque and you promote atherton's sites you are an idiot. Primarly because despite the incredible money it can make this thing, you won't make anything close and secondly because you'll probably harm your business in the long run as I further explained. Big webmasters most of the time have various income sources, they know how to deal with problems and bottom line if you have a lot of quality traffic you'll cash this opportunity. A small webmaster cannot jump from 1-5 sales/day to 100+ joins because he promotes a paris hilton site. Simple as that.

Although I dont agree with DrinkingHard about the site, he said a huge truth. Many blame themselves for not jumping first on this and too many would love to be on Atherton's position (at least for the moment). Check this poll (If you could run porncash scam and and run away with no problems, would you do it or not?) http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=210774

This ain't moral course and most of the time these courses come from people crossing any possible moral border. Webmasters are businessmen and take decisions based on personal interests all the time. Shemp has helped too many new webmasters and continues to do so. This alone speaks about him. If my words left him with a bitter taste honestly it wasn't mean to.

Have a nice sunday everyone

Mr. Mojo Risin 01-04-2004 01:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr. Mojo Risin
the fact is there are a lot of so called scams in business... like those tv commericals that advertise such things as internal cell phone antennas....


it's a dog eat dog world... sometimes you need to use guerilla tactics, though I personally wouldn't ...

unless I really had to that is

Digipimp 01-04-2004 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by CDSmith
So let's see if I have this in perspective here..... the gist of the objection is that this Paris Hilton program is a scam. Basically the promo says the movie is 42 minutes when in fact it is only 5 minutes, yes? Okay, let me ask you this then..... since tons of webmasters promote penis pills that promise guys a bigger dick yet obviously don't work, how come none of you opinionaters are squawking at the top of your lungs about that? If the pills don't work, is that not a rip-off also?


I don't promote Paris Hilton, I don't promote penis pills. I've never promoted dialers either. I simply don't care to, it's a personal decision as well as business, based on my personal standard of ethics. BUT, if a client wants to pay me for an ad spot so <i>they</i> can promote it, I have no objection there. Surfers wouldn't be seeking out the keywords "Paris Hilton" if they weren't wanting to see her get laid, and adult companies wouldn't be promoting it if surfers weren't buying memberships in droves. If Shemp takes down the ad do you really think that's going to fix anything? Get real.


Besides, the Paris Hilton bullshit will be old very soon. In a few months the only people still talking about it will be geeks and retards.

fuck and i just ordered that shit from ron jeremy! motherfucker i thought i was finally going to have a big dick!

:(

 Smokey The Bear  01-04-2004 01:39 AM

Life is a scam.

These people understand they are taking a risk. Any one of them could suddenly become a target and pay the price. Some people feel safer with a buffer :)

ZakAttack 01-04-2004 01:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ZakAttack
so would anybody mind telling me where i can get a merchant account like the one those porn cash guys must have?

Come on... somebody knows...

Any of you processors know?




Come on.....

Kimmy Kim, did you find any merchant accounts like that in all of your processing experience?

I'm sure somebody has..... :-(

 Smokey The Bear  01-04-2004 01:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ZakAttack

Come on.....

Kimmy Kim, did you find any merchant accounts like that in all of your processing experience?

I'm sure somebody has..... :-(

You never know they could be running these cc's from a pizza joint in brooklyn.


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