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Old 01-03-2004, 08:42 AM   #1
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Shemp promoting the paris hilton scam - Thoughts?

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its always the non sucessful to be worried about the moves of others

Thats deep man, that moved me.
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its always the non sucessful to be worried about the moves of others
Don't you think it's a bad move?
If you were a surfer... you visited shemp everyday and you signed up thru him to the paris hilton site...than saw the cheap ass 4 min video and paid $200 for it...
Would you ever signed up to any porn sites anymore? I know I wouldn't.
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Don't you think it's a bad move?
If you were a surfer... you visited shemp everyday and you signed up thru him to the paris hilton site...than saw the cheap ass 4 min video and paid $200 for it...
Would you ever signed up to any porn sites anymore? I know I wouldn't.
True, I'd be wary of the integrity of the website. However, there will be visitors that think that the problem arises from the sponsor itself, not the promoter.
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Don't you think it's a bad move?
If you were a surfer... you visited shemp everyday and you signed up thru him to the paris hilton site...than saw the cheap ass 4 min video and paid $200 for it...
Would you ever signed up to any porn sites anymore? I know I wouldn't.


im not a surfer stupid im a webmaster, go sign up for the site and tell me if the videos there
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If you were a surfer... you visited shemp everyday and you signed up thru him to the paris hilton site...than saw the cheap ass 4 min video and paid $200 for it...
Would you ever signed up to any porn sites anymore? I know I wouldn't.
No, you gotta make as much money as possible in the shortest time possible, things change, trends change, your surfers change, dont worry what they might by tommorow, sell them what you can today,
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they sent a $39k wire to my friend, and a wire to me half that amount.... as long as i get paid, i dont give a shit...
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No, you gotta make as much money as possible in the shortest time possible, things change, trends change, your surfers change, dont worry what they might by tommorow, sell them what you can today,

Thats your point of view.
You probebly use PPS sponsors while other use Revshare.
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they sent a $39k wire to my friend, and a wire to me half that amount.... as long as i get paid, i dont give a shit...
Shit... thats nice.
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No, you gotta make as much money as possible in the shortest time possible, things change, trends change, your surfers change, dont worry what they might by tommorow, sell them what you can today,
Maybe for "fly-by" marketing like TGP galleries, but not for sites that depend on visitor loyalty.
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Wow, what a business plan. I'm sure this is a surefire way to obtain visitor loyalty...
Who wants freeloading visitors loyalty? I want them to visit buy or fuck off and stop using my bandwidth. Are you seriously saying that the quantity of people that sign up $200 to view the Paris Hilton video and then get fucked off becuase they are disapointed is going to effect future traffic and sales for the shemp?
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How many sales do you think he made, again Are you seriously saying that the quantity of people that sign up $200 to view the Paris Hilton video and then get fucked off becuase they are disapointed is going to effect future traffic and sales for the shemp?

Is this serious?
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So what's the message to the industry ? Promote sponsors you know are fraud and scamming surfers. Lying on tours is ok. Oh, and promote Acacia licensees. What else ?
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How many sales do you think he made, again Are you seriously saying that the quantity of people that sign up $200 to view the Paris Hilton video and then get fucked off becuase they are disapointed is going to effect future traffic and sales for the shemp?

Is this serious?
grasshopper.... the key to making money is do anything that will make you more money...

or at least that's how i was trained.... u can thank FM and Seth W if you don't like my philosophy =)
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they sent a $39k wire to my friend, and a wire to me half that amount.... as long as i get paid, i dont give a shit...
How do i sign up???
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So what's the message to the industry ? Promote sponsors you know are fraud and scamming surfers. Lying on tours is ok. Oh, and promote Acacia licensees. What else ?
Are you saying that sponsor doesnt have the video? I dont know because Ive never joined, and actually dont care. If hes making money from it and its legal who gives a shit
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Bunch of hypocrites...other threads showed the complete opposite, people saying its wrong to promote it. Now because its the shemp and hes is a very nice guy suddenly everybody seems to be alright with it.

Idiots....oh wait, duh...im on gfy.
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Are you saying that sponsor doesnt have the video? I dont know because Ive never joined
No. Go sign up. They have the Jessica Simpson + Nick Lachey video, the Ben Affleck and J-Lo video, the Paris Hilton and Nicole Lenz video too.
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So then AdultTrafficShop and GallerySubmitService support surfer fraud, am I correct ? It would be ok if I cheated you too I hope.
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Bunch of hypocrites...other threads showed the complete opposite, people saying its wrong to promote it. Now because its the shemp and hes is a very nice guy suddenly everybody seems to be alright with it.
we are not debating the rights and wrongs, we are debating will it effect his future sales when surfers dont trust his banners anymore. I think thats laughable
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Bunch of hypocrites...other threads showed the complete opposite, people saying its wrong to promote it. Now because its the shemp and hes is a very nice guy suddenly everybody seems to be alright with it.

Idiots....oh wait, duh...im on gfy.

dont u have some gay tranny galleries to submit?
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Well, if it says "The video is 42 minutes long..." but in fact it's only 4 minutes and the surfer joins for free, but gets charged $199 after 30 minutes.....then I would definitely charge back.
Not sure if this is that site though.
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maybe read the thread- we are not debating the rights and wrongs, we are debating will it effect his future sales when surfers dont trust his banners anymore. I think thats laughable

As I said Im not a surfer so dont know if they have the video or not
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Well, if it says "The video is 42 minutes long..." but in fact it's only 4 minutes and the surfer joins for free, but gets charged $199 after 30 minutes.....then I would definitely charge back.
Not sure if this is that site though.
its only 3 minutes.. and yes, that's the site...

i joined.... while i got upsold.... i can attest all the upselling and charges are in their T&C and disclaimer and shit.... ppl just dont read it....
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its only 3 minutes.. and yes, that's the site...

i joined.... while i got upsold.... i can attest all the upselling and charges are in their T&C and disclaimer and shit.... ppl just dont read it....
and what's the commission for the webmaster sending the sale ?
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So then AdultTrafficShop and GallerySubmitService support surfer fraud, am I correct ? It would be ok if I cheated you too I hope.
I didn't say that, my point is that it is Shemp's site: he can promote whatever programs he wants to.
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Someone icqed me before and said that I shouldn't post this thread and than shemp might take my submitter's account.
If I can't voice my opinion in a nice manner without offending anyone and get punished for it than...well nothing that I can do.
But since when voicing my opinion is bad?
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