BTW, I think that in that situation you can ignore the disclaimers etc. and the surfer has the right to charge back, because "the promissed service wasn't delivered" or something like that :2 cents:

Everyone supporting the program, just don't come crying about new regulations, decreased sponsor payouts, stricter laws in regard to spam, increasing lawsuits, harsher penalties and best of all.. anyone else that cheats you, copies you or frauds you in any way.

Well said wigger!

and why should u have a submitters account with a scamming site dumbass?:winkwink: do you want your galleries there?

I doubt he would, why should he, as far as I see you was interested in the commercial implications, not the moral ones.

You fucktard don't put words in my mouth.
A scumming site = the paris hilton site
Shemp is a good guy but I was suprized he decided to promote the paris hilton site

we wasnt supporting the program, I dont even know the program.

Your best course of action then is to not submit your galleries anywhere that promotes Paris Hilton. That means you should also eliminate from your list anyone who has traffic trades to them, because they are indirectly supporting it. Anything less and you yourself are a hypocrite, pal :P

Each got his own opinion. He might disagree with it and its fine. He also can take my partner account because its his tgp. Which is fine because like I said he can do whatever he want. But personaly I don't think its right.

nice backtrack bitch,but according to your theory geefus he is promoting a scamming program but his site isnt scamming..whats the difference when his traffic is going to the program?

i heart you

don't hate, appreciate. :winkwink:

where do sign up to promote the hilton video?

Woohoo!! :) I'm sure everyone will be so upset at the loss of Oracle's submissions, too eh? :)

no worries,he can always list his galleries on his 300k tgps he has designed with his feet:thumbsup

It is probably a bad idea on shemps behalf becuase by now, everyone knows its a scam. He is going to lose those loyal bookmarkers that rely on him to provide quality sites (his traffic quality is going to go down). Too little, too late. :2 cents:

:1orglaugh He's going to have to check his trades though.:Graucho

Not everyone lies in their tours about having a 42 minute video, having 7 videos, having other videos that don't exist. Not everyone is known for setting up companies and merchant accounts to run a large volume through and then run. Are you unaware of the company or just don't care what they do ?

who cares...leave the man alone

Scamming site. No program fucktard!
There is a huge fucking difference...but your littel brain can't comprahand it.

madthumbs, teeniefiles all this whores support the new "coming soon" VISA rules....and then you all guys here around have to pay for it.......

Fuck this assholes.

This surfers will never press a signup button in future.

nope...no compraHANDing

Don't you know, I'm just making sure little Oracle here is squeaky clean too :) My opinion on the subject is going to stay with me because you know what? It's not my business, and no matter what I think it's not my place to tell someone else how to run theirs. Shemp will do what Shemp sees best. And you, my dear, once again, are just here to stir the shit :P

If he was promoting non-nude sites, teen models, displaying unlicensed content, and promoting bestiality videos.. would you still say "it's not my place to tell someone else how to run theirs." or is that just a convenient statement one can make when it's about someone they happen to like ?

there is no 42min Video man....check it ....
why does everybody show the same screenshots on the page???

I saw the whole time the same fucking screenshots, never a new one, or one what i never saw...

This Video ist not existing in 42min...and if it is...no one around here has it in his member area

I'm not going to fight this out with you. I do, however, find it amusing that this entire thread was started by someone who runs warez sites and has used content illegally in the past :P

As far as right or wrong, people could say that I abuse or take advantage of women simply by being in the industry, that I'm a disgrace to my sex, etc. It's about perspective, but my grandmother always taught me to "consider the source".

You can't compare those 2.
2 Seperate things.

Is it?

I used content illegaly?
Shit I used content I OWNED on a domain I forgot to submit to the license!

RUNS warez site?
Check your shit before you voice your bull.

Shemp sells banner spots on his site. It might not be him directly.

Sort of makes you wonder why VISA is asleep at the wheel on this. If I had a merchant account I was watching go wild and start doing 1 mil a day, I would see wtf was going on.

Shemp has gotten info that the Paris Hilton scam site has secret scenes of her b/f licking her eyeballs.

Can you blame him promoting that site?:helpme

Yes but you would have known had you read the license dear. And if I am mistaken about you STILL running warez sites, I apologize. It's still one of those hypocracy things. Are you pulling links yet? :)

Yes, but some people were saying that no matter what, he is still promoting a scam site.

As we speek,

Atherton's paris hilton site commits fraud towards consumers. Of course this doesn't prevent most big tgps and tons of webmasters to promote it. I have many friends that belong to this category. Everyone makes his own decisions as I pointed on a similar thread few days ago. At least now we know not to blame VISA if they decide to further drop the CB ratios and make the paysites nonfunctional as a revenue source.

Well that's a start, isn't it? :P

this ooracle porn?

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...e +porn+warez

I'd never heard the name Atherton myself until this very day. I don't think everyone would or could possibly know who they are or what they're associated with. It's impossible to make decisions based on information you don't have. This is why the industry needs ONE CENTRAL PLACE for people to get information on scam artists. It's unfortunate that many people have to find out after the fact, and that's why people like David Foote continue to scam people too.

cry me a river

You must become an ultimate Jedi Master, then use the force to control the Internet.

Didn't know that. Oracle you fucking scammer, shut up ! :BangBang:

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...e +porn+warez

Awwww crap,,,,i guess i'm a 2 bit washed up jedi

I'll tell ya what the force is,,,if you tell me how to promote that site?

:1orglaugh

Yes, trying to piss up at your betters will only get you wet and slightly yellowed.



I can't wait for these kids to lose there college internet connection.

$300 to anyone who will show me one warez site that I own.
If you post a url to a ware site I don't own you will owe me $300!

It seems that most of you think the issue here is the "loyal bookmarkers"... Well, guess what? Loyal bookmarkers don't come through the front page, they bookmark the links page.

We're still on for lunch, right? :P

99 fuckin idiots who couldnt sell water to a whale