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Old 01-03-2004, 10:02 AM   #101
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99 fuckin idiots who couldnt sell water to a whale
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LM, Atherton is the owner of ex-porncash. The paris hilton site and the rest non-existing videos are his comeback to the industry. Before porncash gone he made sure to pay everyone even the last dollar owned so he can have loyal webmasters for a potential comeback. When he saw the Paris Hilton case he jumped on it. Scams come and go 24h/day online, but this case is unique. I believe the range of his scam won't leave unaffected the industry. If nothing will happen probably we'll see imitators as well. Time will tell.

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Old 01-03-2004, 10:11 AM   #106
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why is it every time you post i feel like say 'what he said'?
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Old 01-03-2004, 10:13 AM   #107
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LM, Atherton is the owner of ex-porncash. The paris hilton site and the rest non-existing videos are his comeback to the industry. Before porncash gone he made sure to pay everyone even the last dollar owned so he can have loyal webmasters for a potential comeback. When he saw the Paris Hilton case he jumped on it. Scams come and go 24h/day online, but this case is unique. I believe the range of his scam won't leave unaffected the industry. If nothing will happen probably we'll see imitators as well. Time will tell.
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Old 01-03-2004, 10:16 AM   #109
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hmmm....

wonder how he licensed the rights to sell it....
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I thought the TFG guys really cared about he surfers. haha

Of course it will be much easier for Hilton lawyers to sue someone like shemp, rather than track down the people behind the sites.
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LM, Atherton is the owner of ex-porncash. The paris hilton site and the rest non-existing videos are his comeback to the industry. Before porncash gone he made sure to pay everyone even the last dollar owned so he can have loyal webmasters for a potential comeback. When he saw the Paris Hilton case he jumped on it. Scams come and go 24h/day online, but this case is unique. I believe the range of his scam won't leave unaffected the industry. If nothing will happen probably we'll see imitators as well. Time will tell.
Like I say I never heard of him before this day.. thanks for the heads-up.
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Just to clarify, I don't even for a minute think that Shemp knowingly promotes anyone that would scam or fraud anyone. He's always seemed to me like someone that would go out of his way to avoid it, even if it meant making less money.
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Just to clarify, I don't even for a minute think that Shemp knowingly promotes anyone that would scam or fraud anyone. He's always seemed to me like someone that would go out of his way to avoid it, even if it meant making less money.
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Old 01-03-2004, 11:11 AM   #114
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I still want to see that video still.
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So then AdultTrafficShop and GallerySubmitService support surfer fraud, am I correct ? It would be ok if I cheated you too I hope.
We don't support surfer fraud, the terms and conditions are very clear in the Paris Hilton site.

It's too funny, so many people point the dirty finger at the promoters that were smart enough to get on this thing from the get go and made a ton of cash. I have had several conversations with these haters that bitch and cry about the site. They all say the same thing "damn I wish I would have got on this thing earlier". But on GFY they spout how good their business ethics are and how they would never become involved with a site like this. But simply they are trying to save their rep because they were not smart enough to see a big money maker coming.

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Old 01-03-2004, 11:14 AM   #117
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Each got his own opinion. He might disagree with it and its fine. He also can take my partner account because its his tgp. Which is fine because like I said he can do whatever he want. But personaly I don't think its right.
And who cares what you think?
Worry about your own sites not someone elses.
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We don't support surfer fraud, the terms and conditions are very clear in the Paris Hilton site.

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Do they tell you in the T&C that you really only get a 3 minute video instead of the 40 minute one they promise on the tour?
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If there's one think you should know about the dumbasses that frequent this site most of the time it's that they stick together. If you're in their circle you can be doing almost anything you want and they'll support you like they're doing here. Be someone outside the circle and you're sure to get chastized.

What a bunch of kiss asses and fuckups so many people are here who are so afraid of the wallet of other webmasters that they accept anything. The Paris Hilton site is bad for the biz and that's simple and there's no disputing that. People promoting it are dooming everyone else and themselves at the expense of quick money and yeah it's big quick money. But if you know something most of these people don't care about anything and anyone but the quick money at all costs.

So you can hang out, chill gossip and be buddies with all of these people and know that they don't give a fuck about anything but a $. 99% of these people aren't my friends and I don't feel the need to protect the fake ass inner porn circle.
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We don't support surfer fraud, the terms and conditions are very clear in the Paris Hilton site.
Terms and Conditions say that there isn't really a 42 minute video ? Or a J-Lo video ? Or a Jessica Simpson video ? Etc..

Where are they ?

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It's too funny, so many people point the dirty finger at the promoters that were smart enough to get on this thing from the get go and made a ton of cash. I have had several conversations with these haters that bitch and cry about the site. They all say the same thing "damn I wish I would have got on this thing earlier". But on GFY they spout how good their business ethics are and how they would never become involved with a site like this. But simply they are trying to save their rep because they were not smart enough to see a big money maker coming.

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don't your tgp calling you ? time to submit to hun, now shut the fuck up .... you are not here to make real money...
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don't your tgp calling you ? time to submit to hun, now shut the fuck up .... you are not here to make real money...
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Old 01-03-2004, 12:10 PM   #124
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Hey, Hey, gotta love adult!

From what I have seen in my 2 short years in the biz about half the industry is scammers and clowns. These are guys who probably don't have the balls to rob banks so they found a safer but equivalent activity.

The other half are very talented people who could probably suceed in any honest business.

The first half does hurt the second, because of the common idea among the public that all porn sites are scams, tougher laws and visa headaches, etc.

But I think its like pissing upwind to complain or bitch about it, scams have been around long before the net and ain't going away with this easy money.

I do wonder if there are that many retard surfers that go for that shit though. I mean the Paris Hilton spam I get insists its all free and I can just fax my birth certifcate over and get access 30 days later, or get it instantly for a fee, ok, right...

I guess if people actually believe that, its a good thing they are being fleeced in a way, wouldn't last long anyway.

But on my own 3 sites I like to keep an ethical firewall and won't link or be linked to any scams, I do think it hurts my credibility with the cream of the paying public and won't promote them regardless of the payback, personally.
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Someone icqed me before and said that I shouldn't post this thread and than shemp might take my submitter's account.
If I can't voice my opinion in a nice manner without offending anyone and get punished for it than...well nothing that I can do.
But since when voicing my opinion is bad?
you just blacklisted yourself at a LOT of high end places.
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you just blacklisted yourself at a LOT of high end places.
High end is an ambiguous term isn't it...
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you just blacklisted yourself at a LOT of high end places.
"My movado is high end"

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Isnt the name of the site shemp.com?

That's what I thought.
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why do u give a fuck about consoles.
why dont you drop in like six and make 3x the bank?
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why dont you drop in like six and make 3x the bank?
okay, try the link again, see how that works for you
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you just blacklisted yourself at a LOT of high end places.
by what? voicing my opinion?
Aren't you the one voicing your opinion on gfy and not giving a fuck what other people say about you or think about you?
Or is that because you have more money and traffic than me you can say what you think and I can't?
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Bunch of hypocrites...other threads showed the complete opposite, people saying its wrong to promote it. Now because its the shemp and hes is a very nice guy suddenly everybody seems to be alright with it.
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by what? voicing my opinion?
Aren't you the one voicing your opinion on gfy and not giving a fuck what other people say about you or think about you?
Or is that because you have more money and traffic than me you can say what you think and I can't?
Welcome to the reality of the people of this biz. You don't have friends in this biz, you have two groups of people. People who can make you money and people who can't. If you can make them money then you're a "friend" if you can't then you're a nobody. If you're a "friend" then you can do whatever you like without anyone questioning it because they don't want to hurt their own wallets.

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Sponsors, processors, TGP owners and others wonder why some webmasters cheat them. Boo hoo, someone redirected the traffic after they got listed or carded some signups or encouraged surfers to cancel or chargeback after they join. They learn it's "ok" from you. It's ok to do whatever you can to make a buck as long as you don't get caught. They wanna be just like you.
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Im really interested in your opinion shemp.
Your a great guy and all but Im really interested of why are you promoting this site...
If you doing it for the quick buck than just say it.. nothing wrong with it beause its your site and you worked hard to make it big.
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Im really interested in your opinion shemp.
Your a great guy and all but Im really interested of why are you promoting this site...
If you doing it for the quick buck than just say it.. nothing wrong with it beause its your site and you worked hard to make it big.
Don't give in and turn nice on this shit man. Yeah you could have worded it all better without pointing out one guy, and asked why are some of you still promoting the paris hilton scam? But bottom line you didn't do anything wrong, just maybe guilty of stupid wording, don't kiss ass because they're threatening you.

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Don't give in and turn nice on this shit man. Yeah you could have worded it all better without pointing out one guy, and asked why are some of you still promoting the paris hilton scam? But bottom line you didn't do anything wrong, just maybe guilty of stupid wording, don't kiss ass because they're threatening you.

Dude Im the last guy that will kiss anyone's ass...
that just what I think...its his site and he can do whatever the fuck he wants... just like I have sites and I will be the only one deciding what Ill promote.
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Im really interested in your opinion shemp.
Your a great guy and all but Im really interested of why are you promoting this site...
If you doing it for the quick buck than just say it.. nothing wrong with it beause its your site and you worked hard to make it big.
you should have emailed me and asked.
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