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Old 12-26-2003, 08:15 AM   #1
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Al Qaeda vows "back-breaking" strike.

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"All Major News Groups Resporting: Al-Qaeda chief Osama bin Laden will issue the next of his video messages after a massive attack on US territory"

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DUBAI (Reuters) - A London-based Arab magazine said on Friday that al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden (news - web sites) has vowed to launch a "back-breaking attack" on the United States by February, confirming an earlier message by the militant network.

The weekly al-Majalla said it received an e-mail from Abu Mohammed al-Ablaj, a little known al Qaeda member, saying bin Laden would release a video tape in which he affirms his group's determination to fight the United States.

"A messenger of bin Laden informed him (Ablaj) that the al Qaeda leader will appear on a televised tape after the execution of an operation which bin Laden described as back-breaking and which would change the order of things," al-Majalla said in a report in its latest edition, a copy of which was sent to Reuters.

"They (Americans) should prepare...their coffins, hospitals and graves. The coming days will be full of surprises and great events which will make them a historic example," the magazine quoted Ablaj as saying.

The report came after U.S. officials ordered their color-coded alert system raised to orange, the second highest level, citing possible year-end attacks.

Air France canceled Christmas flights to Los Angeles on Wednesday after U.S. officials relayed information that extremist groups were planning "near-term simultaneous attacks that would rival September 11."

Al Qaeda is believed responsible for the September 11, 2001 attacks on U.S. cities.

In the e-mail, which could not be immediately authenticated, Ablaj echoed his previous statement carried by al-Majalla in November saying the attack would take place before a Muslim feast which is celebrated on the last days of January or the first days of February.

The e-mail did not say what type of weapons would be used in the attack which Ablaj hinted would involve a series of strikes on the United States and other countries, the magazine reported.
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Oh shit time to build a bomb shelter!! why can't people just live in peace!!
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As much as people want to beleive this is true (yeah I know it makes no sense) this is total bullshit.

Why would they give us a time frame, in history of terror they come out and claim after the fact.

Its simple these fuckers are not capable of doing anything remotly close to 9/11 anymore, all they can do now is release $1.00 tapes.

I know the homeland securoty dep. has to do somethin or else Tom Ridge wont have a job but come on bulshitting is not the way to go.
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I find it amusing how many people were utterly convinced that Saddam was behind everything and that these types of attacks would stop when he was captured. Just goes to show you how easily the populace is convinced of these things. I remember many of those same people calling ME crazy for saying that it would be far from the end... Amusing how everyone seems to have forgotten about Osama until he made himself promenent again.. he's had ALL this time to plot in peace!
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Why would they give us a time frame, in history of terror they come out and claim after the fact.

Welp.. Imagine, just for a second how serious it would make this guy look if with advance warning if he was able to pull something big off at will.

Sure, could be bullshit - but if this is legit and he pulls this off with our guard UP, makes him look to have a 10 foot dick made of stainless steel.

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I find it amusing how many people were utterly convinced that Saddam was behind everything and that these types of attacks would stop when he was captured.
Please post a link (or even quote a post) backing up this lie.

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Just goes to show you how easily the populace is convinced of these things. I remember many of those same people calling ME crazy for saying that it would be far from the end... Amusing how everyone seems to have forgotten about Osama until he made himself promenent again.. he's had ALL this time to plot in peace!
You're completely uninformed.
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As much as people want to beleive this is true (yeah I know it makes no sense) this is total bullshit.

Why would they give us a time frame, in history of terror they come out and claim after the fact.

Its simple these fuckers are not capable of doing anything remotly close to 9/11 anymore, all they can do now is release $1.00 tapes.

I know the homeland securoty dep. has to do somethin or else Tom Ridge wont have a job but come on bulshitting is not the way to go.
I agree with the first part of your post in that their best weapon at this point is just threats...and it's working. Gets people all worked up scared to go out..etc.

However I do think eventually they'll hit us pretty big again...it's only a matter of time.
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I agree with the first part of your post in that their best weapon at this point is just threats...and it's working. Gets people all worked up scared to go out..etc.

However I do think eventually they'll hit us pretty big again...it's only a matter of time.
One of the major facets of terrorism is the mental mind set the terrorist can put on there target. They have done a good job of this thus far but eventualy they will have to back it up with some sort of tangible attack. Its well known the US people can "forget" and before you know it these terrorism allerts will mean little to the average person (cry wolf syndrome).

The problem lies in us becoming to complacent as a public. That is when we are the most vulnerable.
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You know if they succeed in doing it again the Middle East may as well bend over and kiss it's ass goodby.
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I think Osama just doesn't want his new sex tape released so he's trying to divert our attention.

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what's more fuuny about 'al queda' is that all the so-call leaders are EX-cia(if there's such a thing) assets.....hmmmmmmmmmmm
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You're completely uninformed.
You're a funny man Ron, wanna do lunch in Vegas? :P
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You're a funny man Ron, wanna do lunch in Vegas? :P
do you promise to keep your lying for the boards and tell the truth at lunch?
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Amusing how everyone seems to have forgotten about Osama until he made himself promenent again.. he's had ALL this time to plot in peace!

i was thinking the same here is a man with a bad kidney living in a cave somewhere 'plotting' to strike 'again'...i mean they know when you're taking a shit but they can't find their ex-assest....quite strange
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hate to say it.. but its a game. Al Qauda just wants to keep in the public eye and not be forgotten - homeland security wants to display that its money worth spent.

Simply put - homeland can raise a terror alert - then when nothing happens, they did their job - "why look no terrorist attacks, God was with us!!!"

Al Quauda seens saddam captured, it takes away from their show plus they want to prove that terrorism is the way to go and that USA could not do anything, so they threaten showing the world that when they speak, America jumps!!! Al Quauda screams - "why look the Americans are afraid of us, God was with us!!!"

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As much as people want to beleive this is true (yeah I know it makes no sense) this is total bullshit.

Why would they give us a time frame, in history of terror they come out and claim after the fact.

Its simple these fuckers are not capable of doing anything remotly close to 9/11 anymore, all they can do now is release $1.00 tapes.

I know the homeland securoty dep. has to do somethin or else Tom Ridge wont have a job but come on bulshitting is not the way to go.
they're just giving a warning to show their superiority... if they succeed they can say "see, we told ya". I understand your sceptisism but I think we should take every threat serious.
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"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and I really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority." -- George W. Bush, March 13, 2002


Sure am glad Saddam was the top priority, I feel so much safer now.
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"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and I really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority." -- George W. Bush, March 13, 2002


Sure am glad Saddam was the top priority, I feel so much safer now.
idiots love making points by taking things out of context.
(its their only defense against the truth)
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I find it amusing how many people were utterly convinced that Saddam was behind everything and that these types of attacks would stop when he was captured. Just goes to show you how easily the populace is convinced of these things. I remember many of those same people calling ME crazy for saying that it would be far from the end... Amusing how everyone seems to have forgotten about Osama until he made himself promenent again.. he's had ALL this time to plot in peace!
I find your BS post to be amusing.
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do you promise to keep your lying for the boards and tell the truth at lunch?
That all depends on how many times you're going to call me a liberal at lunch, dear.
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I find your BS post to be amusing.
Ok, so tell me what's BS and what's amusing! I'd love to hear your opinion.
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If this is true, and Osama can pull this off, it will sound the death knell for every Arab and Muslim on the planet. There's no way Americans will settle for anything short of total elimination of the threat.
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Ok, so tell me what's BS and what's amusing! I'd love to hear your opinion.
Your entire post is bullshit and to me that is amusing...but I give credit where credit is due...12clicks called you on it first...so he wins the prize.
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idiots love making points by taking things out of context.
(its their only defense against the truth)
Here, this should clear up your brain:

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Why exactly would he launch an attack? Apparently it takes a few words in an email to terrorize people.
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If you read the article carefully you'll see that bin Laden hasn't even made his announcement yet. Some "little known al Qaeda member" said Osama will release a tape soon. Who knows if this guy even speaks for al Qaeda?

Sounds to me like Reuters is trying to pump up a non-story.

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As much as people want to beleive this is true (yeah I know it makes no sense) this is total bullshit.

Why would they give us a time frame, in history of terror they come out and claim after the fact.

Its simple these fuckers are not capable of doing anything remotly close to 9/11 anymore, all they can do now is release $1.00 tapes.

I know the homeland securoty dep. has to do somethin or else Tom Ridge wont have a job but come on bulshitting is not the way to go.
It's about as real as the "capture of Saddam"... this is just Dubya gearing up for re-election, and he will win. Watch.

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idiots love making points by taking things out of context.
(its their only defense against the truth)
Bin Laden and Al Qaeda are the real threat to this country, not Saddam. Any idiot can comprehend that, of course you have no need to comprehend anything other than right wing lies. That places you beyond idiocy.

Just as republicans demanded government resources and attention went to focusing on whether Clinton got a blowjob while Bin Laden made plans for 9/11, this time they focused on one of the weakest countries in the world while once again Bin Laden was making plans to attack America.
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I find it amusing how many people were utterly convinced that Saddam was behind everything and that these types of attacks would stop when he was captured.
Who was convinced that Saddam was behind everything? No one I know or heard of.

Well, just keep on laughing at these imaginary people, so you can feel good about being right. I bow to your knowledge

Someone says, "Saddam harbors terroists?, but LadyMischief hears ?Saddam is behind everything and these types of attacks would stop when he is captured?. Hehe LOL Now THAT's amusing
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As crazy as this will sound, sometimes I honestly believe a lot of people in the military industrial and federal govt. cabols want another 9/11 to happen so they justify continued expenditures in the hundreds of billions for defense, expansion of intelligence and snooping, etc.

I also think they want to continue taking out the powers in the middle east like we just took Iraq to hinder the growth of Islam. Syria is obviously next in line to go.

The eventual goal being to irradicate Islamic culture and power as much as possible and Americanize the Middle East as much as possible.
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Who was convinced that Saddam was behind everything? No one I know or heard of.

Well, just keep on laughing at these imaginary people, so you can feel good about being right. I bow to your knowledge

Someone says, "Saddam harbors terroists?, but LadyMischief hears ?Saddam is behind everything and these types of attacks would stop when he is captured?. Hehe LOL Now THAT's amusing
Actually I was referring to people on this very board who posted in threads just like this one pretty much stating that verbatim.

I do realize some are more informed than others, but many people still feel that this whole thing isn't a threat. People didn't think there was any threat to American soil before 9-11 either. Osama was still some small-time terrorist who lived in a cave then. Guess what, he still is, but look what he's already done. Underestimating any of these people is the biggest mistake ANYONE can make, and if the US Government is taking these threats seriously, why wouldn't anyone else?

I'm not saying anyone should live in fear, but airing on the side of caution NEVER hurt anyone.
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As crazy as this will sound, sometimes I honestly believe a lot of people in the military industrial and federal govt. cabols want another 9/11 to happen so they justify continued expenditures in the hundreds of billions for defense, expansion of intelligence and snooping, etc.

I also think they want to continue taking out the powers in the middle east like we just took Iraq to hinder the growth of Islam. Syria is obviously next in line to go.

The eventual goal being to irradicate Islamic culture and power as much as possible and Americanize the Middle East as much as possible.
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Who was convinced that Saddam was behind everything? No one I know or heard of.

Well, just keep on laughing at these imaginary people, so you can feel good about being right. I bow to your knowledge

Someone says, "Saddam harbors terroists?, but LadyMischief hears ?Saddam is behind everything and these types of attacks would stop when he is captured?. Hehe LOL Now THAT's amusing

Try picking up a newspaper once in a while.

http://www.charleston.net/stories/06...r_15poll.shtml
'Before the war, half of those polled in a survey said Iraqis were among the 19 hijackers Sept. 11, 2001.'

What made people believe this?

Here some excerpts of a March 17 2003 Bush speech:

"The terrorist threat to America and the world will be diminished the moment that Saddam Hussein is disarmed."

"Iraq has a deep hatred of America and our friends and it has aided, trained and harbored terrorists, including operatives of al-Qaida."

"The danger is clear: Using chemical, biological or, one day, nuclear weapons obtained with the help of Iraq, the terrorists could fulfill their stated ambitions and kill thousands or hundreds of thousands of innocent people in our country or any other."

"We will tear down the apparatus of terror and we will help you to build a new Iraq that is prosperous and free."

"In desperation, he and terrorist groups might try to conduct terrorist operations against the American people and our friends. These attacks are not inevitable. They are, however, possible. "
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Old 12-26-2003, 12:49 PM   #38
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Try picking up a newspaper once in a while.

http://www.charleston.net/stories/06...r_15poll.shtml
'Before the war, half of those polled in a survey said Iraqis were among the 19 hijackers Sept. 11, 2001.'

What made people believe this?

Here some excerpts of a March 17 2003 Bush speech:

"The terrorist threat to America and the world will be diminished the moment that Saddam Hussein is disarmed."

"Iraq has a deep hatred of America and our friends and it has aided, trained and harbored terrorists, including operatives of al-Qaida."

"The danger is clear: Using chemical, biological or, one day, nuclear weapons obtained with the help of Iraq, the terrorists could fulfill their stated ambitions and kill thousands or hundreds of thousands of innocent people in our country or any other."

"We will tear down the apparatus of terror and we will help you to build a new Iraq that is prosperous and free."

"In desperation, he and terrorist groups might try to conduct terrorist operations against the American people and our friends. These attacks are not inevitable. They are, however, possible. "
Hmm, when I read it, he said "diminished"...not stopped.

"The terrorist threat to America and the world will be diminished the moment that Saddam Hussein is disarmed."
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Bin Laden and Al Qaeda are the real threat to this country, not Saddam. Any idiot can comprehend that, of course you have no need to comprehend anything other than right wing lies. That places you beyond idiocy.
dear child, once you mature, you'll learn that adults can do two things at once. Where are the taliban and al quaeda today? hiding in holes threatening us with messages.
Bin Laden as a person is NOT important, terrorism is. Bin Laden is either dead in a cave or alive in a cave. He is of no threat. His infastructer and money are.
Dopey children like yourself think that if the news isn't reporting it, our government is not doing it.
Grow up child.

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Just as republicans demanded government resources and attention went to focusing on whether Clinton got a blowjob while Bin Laden made plans for 9/11, this time they focused on one of the weakest countries in the world while once again Bin Laden was making plans to attack America.
ahahahaha, sure child. when your blowjob hero was lying under oath and spending all of his energy explaining what the definition of *is* is bin laden was bombing NY.
Only a fool thinks that Iraq doesn't support terrorism and only a fool believes that with saddam gone the world is not safer.
Of course only a fool thinks we can only do one thing at a time.


oh, and only a fool thinks the quotes below are false.
but hey, if the world had no fools, things wouldn't be so easy for us smart guys.
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"The terrorist threat to America and the world will be diminished the moment that Saddam Hussein is disarmed."

"Iraq has a deep hatred of America and our friends and it has aided, trained and harbored terrorists, including operatives of al-Qaida."

"The danger is clear: Using chemical, biological or, one day, nuclear weapons obtained with the help of Iraq, the terrorists could fulfill their stated ambitions and kill thousands or hundreds of thousands of innocent people in our country or any other."

"We will tear down the apparatus of terror and we will help you to build a new Iraq that is prosperous and free."

"In desperation, he and terrorist groups might try to conduct terrorist operations against the American people and our friends. These attacks are not inevitable. They are, however, possible. "
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Anyone who believes this report is an IDIOT!

Here you go, you want terror? Real terror means you are in constant fear of your life. How many terror acts, successful or otherwise, have occured on US soil within the last 10 years by non-Americans. Having a hard time coming up with the figure, less than a handful, really I can only think of 2.

If I commanded Al-Quaeda what I would do is get about 100 of my idiot followers tickets to the US, fly them into NY or LA, strap them with bombs, and then once a day, every day, for 100 days, blow up a random location. You wont kill more than 5-10 people, but imagine the fear. So until they do this, there is no fear, there is no terror.

Blah this is so annoying that I dont even want to write anymore.
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Lets hope this is not the case. We can not afford to have the economy crippled again, it is just starting to recover.
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liquidmoe > I agree with you 100%.
Constant little attacks would be alot worse.

Isreal has real terrorism problems, suicide bombers blowing up in busy streets, inside clubs etc. That is fear.

I'd imagine a suicide bomber in Times Square on New years would cause some panic.
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As much as people want to beleive this is true (yeah I know it makes no sense) this is total bullshit.

Why would they give us a time frame, in history of terror they come out and claim after the fact.

Its simple these fuckers are not capable of doing anything remotly close to 9/11 anymore, all they can do now is release $1.00 tapes.

I know the homeland securoty dep. has to do somethin or else Tom Ridge wont have a job but come on bulshitting is not the way to go.

Agreed. I think there will be attacks on American people and interests in other parts of the world. But I do not think they will ever do another 9/11 on this country.

Why? Because they had the element of suprise. Like the Japanese and Pearl Harbor..they caught us with our "pants down". And while the security system in the United States is not perfect, it is SO much better than it was on 9/11. (No thanks to the Bush administration to a large degree).

And EscortBiz makes an excellent point of why would they broadcast that they are going to hit? They sure didn't do that before 9/11. But the LOVE watching many Americans and Europeans and allies of the United States in fear.
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You're completely uninformed.
Really, We've had 6 or 7 Americans killed just in the last 48-72 hours. Rocket attacks on hotels in Baghdad. Many soldiers still getting wounded daily.

So, how is Lady Mischief "uninformed" in her conclusion that the capture of Hussein would not slow down significantly any attacks on American troops?
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The problem lies in us becoming to complacent as a public. That is when we are the most vulnerable.
Which is why these "Code Orange" alerts have to be stopped or slowed down till there is a REAL threat! We now go, "Oh code Orange..whee..big deal!"

The Bush administration loves this scenario: "We have information that there will be attacks on us. We don't where, we don't know when, and we don't know by who..but we need to go to code orange!"

And then when the holidays are through, and there has been no major attack, the American people think "Wow..I guess old GW is really good as Prez because therer were no attacks!"

PURELY POLITICAL!
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idiots love making points by taking things out of context.
(its their only defense against the truth)
Are you saying George Bush DIDN'T say "I'm not worried about Bin Laden right now"?

And then are you going to say that George Bush DIDN'T say after 9/11 "We're going to find him and get him, DEAD or ALIVE?"

Wtf IS the main target/priority of our terrorist "campaign" then?
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If this is true, and Osama can pull this off, it will sound the death knell for every Arab and Muslim on the planet. There's no way Americans will settle for anything short of total elimination of the threat.
If Osama can pull what off?
And when you say "total elimination of this threat" do you mean ethnic cleansing of everyone who is Muslim?
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Who was convinced that Saddam was behind everything? No one I know or heard of.

Well, just keep on laughing at these imaginary people, so you can feel good about being right. I bow to your knowledge

Someone says, "Saddam harbors terroists?, but LadyMischief hears ?Saddam is behind everything and these types of attacks would stop when he is captured?. Hehe LOL Now THAT's amusing
You don't read the newspapers or watch news programs?
Every poll taken over the last year of so showed a MAJORITY of Americans DID belive Saddam had a big hand in the 9/11 attack!

They ALSO belive that Saddam had a large amount of WMDS!
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As crazy as this will sound, sometimes I honestly believe a lot of people in the military industrial and federal govt. cabols want another 9/11 to happen so they justify continued expenditures in the hundreds of billions for defense, expansion of intelligence and snooping, etc.

I also think they want to continue taking out the powers in the middle east like we just took Iraq to hinder the growth of Islam. Syria is obviously next in line to go.

The eventual goal being to irradicate Islamic culture and power as much as possible and Americanize the Middle East as much as possible.
Well put. Part of our "ethnic cleansing" policy for the middle east.
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Hmm, when I read it, he said "diminished"...not stopped.

"The terrorist threat to America and the world will be diminished the moment that Saddam Hussein is disarmed."
And I ask you: WHAT terrorist threat to America from Iraq was there?
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