How to read ccBill stats? - GoFuckYourself.com

slapass · 12-22-2003, 08:51 AM

Here is what they say:

Trial - Amount and count of the subscriptions that are trials.

Single - Amount and count of the single billing subscriptions or non-recurring subscriptions.

Recurring - Amount and count of the recurring billing subscriptions.

Rebill - Amount and count of the subscriptions that have rebilled.

So what is the difference between recurring and rebill? If a person recurs are theyy then a rebill?

Example from CCF that is still getting rebills:

Trial 34
Single 1
Recurring 19
Rebill 46

19 people recurred and then moved to rebill where they got dinged for a total of 46 times?

Thanks

chowda · 12-22-2003, 08:53 AM

recurring is when they buy a full membership

rebill is when they rebill from a pass recurring or trial.

Trax · 12-22-2003, 08:54 AM

chowda is right

slapass · 12-22-2003, 09:03 AM

Thank you. I have used them for over a year and never bothered to read it or look it up. DOH!

Edit: so is a single and recurring the same then?

chowda · 12-22-2003, 09:05 AM

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Originally posted by slapass
Thank you. I have used them for over a year and never bothered to read it or look it up. DOH!

Edit: so is a single and recurring the same then?

depends on what kinda site ur promoting,i never ran into single
but i would believe its a 1 time charge with no rebill. ask your affiliate sponsor for more info.

corvette · 12-22-2003, 09:09 AM

single is the first and only billing of a subscription that is not going to rebill in the future

$59.95 for 6 months (no rebilling), for instance

in the future, if you have these types of questions, please do not hesitate to contact [email protected]

slapass · 12-22-2003, 10:50 AM

Thanks everyone and corvett.

elric · 12-22-2003, 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by corvett
single is the first and only billing of a subscription that is not going to rebill in the future

$59.95 for 6 months (no rebilling), for instance

in the future, if you have these types of questions, please do not hesitate to contact [email protected]

Corvett-

In yesterday's thread describing the tools in the CCBill Admin to enable shaving of affiliate commissions by sponsors (http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=211755), you never responded to affiliate concerns.

When can affiliates expect to be able to see which of our sponsors are using CCBill tools to shave our commissions?

corvette · 12-22-2003, 11:35 AM

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Originally posted by elric

When can we expect to see that?

Quote:

Originally posted by corvett

soon

we are working on it, as well as a few other things...dont want to pretend to know the exact date, but it will be there within a reasonable amount of time

elric · 12-22-2003, 11:46 AM

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Originally posted by corvett
Soon

"Soon" is very vague. What does that mean? A week? A month? A year?

Given that you guys turned around major modifications to the affiliate stats pages in just a few days last week, when can we expect to see this info? It should not be that difficult to provide affiliates with read access to this information.

Give us an actual time estimate. "Soon" does not indicate any sort of commitment on CCBill's part at all.

elric · 12-22-2003, 12:45 PM

Hmmm...

1 hour later and still no response from Corvett/CCBill/CaveCreek?

elric · 12-22-2003, 03:35 PM

...

Almost 4 hours later and still no response from Corvett/CCBill/CaveCreek...

Not very encouraging.

elric · 12-30-2003, 08:45 PM

Corvett-

Any word on a time estimate for making this info (about which sponsors are using CCBill-provided tools to shave payments to affiliates) visible to CCBill affiliates in the affiliate admin?

It's been over a week now.

EZRhino · 12-30-2003, 08:47 PM

Irritating isnt it.

rdunn404 · 12-30-2003, 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by elric
Corvett-

Any word on a time estimate for making this info (about which sponsors are using CCBill-provided tools to shave payments to affiliates) visible to CCBill affiliates in the affiliate admin?

It's been over a week now.

Dude you're running this in the ground. It doesn't fucking matter if they put it up today and build a custom version just for you, if a sponsor wants to shave you they WILL find a way. And you won't know. Promote who you trust, or start your own program if this is keeping you up at nights!

elric · 12-30-2003, 08:52 PM

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Originally posted by EZRhino
Irritating isnt it.

What's irritating is knowing that part of the money from the "CCBill Processing Fee" that gets deducted from my checks is going to help fund the development of shaving tools for sponsors.

(picked up my checks today )

elric · 12-30-2003, 09:02 PM

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Originally posted by rdunn404

Dude you're running this in the ground. It doesn't fucking matter if they put it up today and build a custom version just for you, if a sponsor wants to shave you they WILL find a way. And you won't know. Promote who you trust, or start your own program if this is keeping you up at nights!

I know sponsors shave. That's just part of the business. I don't trust ANY sponsor.

But there should be some level of effort required for them to shave - CCBill has made it far too easy for the typical sponsor to shave on a MASSIVE scale. Making this info available would level the playing field somewhat.

I have personally already moved part of my traffic to non-CCBill sponsors.

And yes, I am thinking seriously for the first time about starting my own program - the only thing holding me back right now is concern about obscenity laws. I was actually surprised at how easy it is to start up a pay site! So maybe it's inevitable - I'm making decent money referring traffic, but maybe the only way to go to the next level is to open my own pay site.

12-22-2003, 08:51 AM	#1
slapass Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 14,622	How to read ccBill stats? Here is what they say: Trial - Amount and count of the subscriptions that are trials. Single - Amount and count of the single billing subscriptions or non-recurring subscriptions. Recurring - Amount and count of the recurring billing subscriptions. Rebill - Amount and count of the subscriptions that have rebilled. So what is the difference between recurring and rebill? If a person recurs are theyy then a rebill? Example from CCF that is still getting rebills: Trial 34 Single 1 Recurring 19 Rebill 46 19 people recurred and then moved to rebill where they got dinged for a total of 46 times? Thanks

12-22-2003, 08:53 AM	#2
chowda Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Gooch city Posts: 9,527	recurring is when they buy a full membership rebill is when they rebill from a pass recurring or trial. __________________ Someone finds you... 2007 PS: Nationalnet is the best host I've ever had. And i tried alot of them.

12-22-2003, 09:09 AM	#6
corvette Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: scottsdale Posts: 7,880	single is the first and only billing of a subscription that is not going to rebill in the future $59.95 for 6 months (no rebilling), for instance in the future, if you have these types of questions, please do not hesitate to contact [email protected] __________________ If you need a good company for check writing services, then check out checkissuing, and for webhosting, check out Phoenix NAP

12-22-2003, 08:54 AM	#3
Trax [----------------------] Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 14,486	chowda is right

12-22-2003, 09:03 AM	#4
slapass Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 14,622	Thank you. I have used them for over a year and never bothered to read it or look it up. DOH! Edit: so is a single and recurring the same then?

12-22-2003, 10:50 AM	#7
slapass Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 14,622	Thanks everyone and corvett.

12-22-2003, 12:45 PM	#11
elric Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 296	Hmmm... 1 hour later and still no response from Corvett/CCBill/CaveCreek?

12-22-2003, 03:35 PM	#12
elric Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 296	... Almost 4 hours later and still no response from Corvett/CCBill/CaveCreek... Not very encouraging.

12-30-2003, 08:45 PM	#13
elric Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 296	Corvett- Any word on a time estimate for making this info (about which sponsors are using CCBill-provided tools to shave payments to affiliates) visible to CCBill affiliates in the affiliate admin? It's been over a week now.

12-30-2003, 08:47 PM	#14
EZRhino Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: couch Posts: 6,258	Irritating isnt it.