that number of 'lost' customers is enormous. but few in this business cared or care about it - it's always been grab all the money you can now - who cares about the future. There are millions of surfers who have been duped by scams who will never join another site - and for every one of those there are the 10 friends they told that porn paysites are a scam.

To all the people who sent millions of hits to Atherton's program Porncash - did you ever think about checking out what was inside?

I did - almost nothing was inside his paysites, maxiumum i'd say maybe $1,000 worth of content. Billed at 39.95 and 49.95 a month.

There are plenty of people on these boards who are supporting him.

it's a no brainer why sites like milfhunter sell well - they have actual conent in them

Someone show me the money! Or i do not beleive. If it were true i would have converted the traffic and nobody would talk about 8million signups from the traffic.:2 cents:

Bla Bla Bla ..

Dude the numbers are real...trust me

Dude get over yourself. I threw an ugly ass page up in 10 minutes or less and was converting Hilton traffic 3 days later when google and altavista picked it up.

i've only been billed 49.95 by that site since i joined and cancelled..

and he pays webmasters 30$ a pop

who's gonna be a Rick Salomon? :glugglug

those numbers are real

i myself dont have the nuts to push it
i do know people that are
its doing insane

You better tell us the names on this fuctards because that's robbery for cash and soul. this people will not buy again..

:321GFY :321GFY :321GFY

what he said there..glad I'm getting out :1orglaugh

yes, I said it before..that was how free loaders on tgp's was born. I can bet on that motha FUCKERS!

:glugglug

So don't come here with your silly ass complaing about how traffic doesn't convert...you heard me. Ask Lensman on this one.

:321GFY

Check out the fraud notice at his processer's site, it suggests charging back is fraud among other things to scare the avaerage user out of charging back


http://www.powerzest.com/

correct--> this people that send signups should not be allowed to come to Vegas..

:warning

interesting reading.

a glimpse inside Atherton's business. VISA Europe must be in a coma not to know this character is around.

http://www.google.ca/search?q=cache:...n&ie=UTF-8</a>

yes they are. It's just funny to see people not caring a shit about things like this..but then again VISA 1% was a monster for all the scam mofos here.

:glugglug

weird

100 chargebacks :glugglug

lets fucking face it guys
he wouldnt have gotten 8k sales a day without webmasters, spammers,... supporting him....

i believe those numbers are real because i know about the hype

but its not only jon whos got no ethical values when it comes to money...
if any of you should have had the chance to do a similar scam he would have fucking done it for 1.5 million a day

maybe there are one or 2 who would not have done it
but the rest is rarely any better.. i still know guys who send him join after join every fucking minute

With all that money the Hilton family has can they pose a threat to the company running that site?

Seriously do they have any legal grounds to presue the site owner(s) for any kind of damages?

I am just curious because with all that attention and exposure that site isnt exactly underground. Hell everyone with a email address has had to hear about it by now

nice :) my 200+ (no trials, no affiliates) daily joins cb percentage is, and always has been, WELL under 1% threshold.

But your members area actually has what's promised in the tours. This is rare :)

WG

when reading that summary of the legal case between Lasrado and Atherton the thing that struck me is the judges who presided over it - the affidavits are filled with references to illegal shenanigans with credit cards, it's completely obvious. The legal system is a team - you have legislators, enforcement agencies i.e. the police, and then the judiciary - when a judge sees this kind of crap going on I think he is obligated to alert the proper authorities - in this case the cops and VISA Europe. These last two scams of Atherton's, the Jenna and Paris ones, might have been avoided if the judge did the right thing.

Only thing I give Atherton credit for is that his tour pages are always very creative and smart - he knows how to get the surfer to whip out his credit card.

When people get really dirty in this business that's when they step away from the chatboards. Atherton posted regularly on YNOT and Netpond and then disappeared when he went hardcore criminal. Same thing as Babenet, they used to have marketing reps on the boards. Then when they went evil they retreated to the shadows.

People were invited to take part in these last two scams privately - I guess they still have enough contacts that they were able to put a large list together of big spammers.

1.6 mil is toooo much

I agree, that Paris Hilton tour is really well put together. Credit where credit's due.

what worries me is how many people entered their cc# on a page with no SSL certificate

Its pretty bland really. And totally illegal so ?

Aggreed, I sit down to that show over a burbon and vodka, 32 of heini and a fist full of painkillers, and its actualy fucking hilarious

I like the expression "morals you can afford to have". It's easy to say no to scams like these when you're not desperate for a buck..

Maturity also plays a part.. I can't help thinking when i was young, stupid and poor I might have sent traffic to something like this.. :(

No, actually the copy is really very well written for an adult site and IMO would do a good job of convincing joe surfer to sign up. The fact that it's all lies is neither here nor there, it's still good copywriting.

lol, you cant help but post on this board huh? No matter how banned you are. :glugglug

We're very likely his only friends

i wont be surprised if they exceed the numbers posted.

I had never heard of this 'paris hilton' before this hype, what has she done in the past?

how does he keep on getting new merchant accounts anyway?

:thumbsup

That't the tough part. Probably found some sucker bank who "trusted" him.