I doubt anytime soon. This isn't his first scam I don't believe. That's why he has other merchant accounts that have been closed.

what website is it thats doing this? or does noone want to mention it?

yep, the customer can't usually cb after 6 months. however, from my experience (ipsp/3rd party) we never actually SEE any cbs appear for at least 6 months from the original date of purchase.

i'm sure there are differences using your own merch accounts though (like you said)...

and to think all they have to do is download Winamp and watch it free.. :)

I have heard upwards of 12k joins a day at its peak. Atherton was smart enough to play the games. Like it or not, he will make millions of this once simple "scam".

I don't believe that for a second. Total BS.

for all you morons that didn't see this site yet
http://www.paris.extremexxxfootage.com/

Yeppers Quiet,

3rd party billers get so many and have alot more to process then most people.

We only get a few cb's per month on quite a big volume as our fraud / admin people look over every single order very closely.

one exception that hit us 2 months ago was a cb from almost 1 yr. ago. If the customer says to there bank / cc company that they have been trying to resolve an issue with the merchant for months, and it's not working, they can cb..

this customer had over 5 months written back and forth with our support people saying his vibe didn't work. After the first email They gave him an RMA# to return, we shipped him a new one the same day. He never shipped his bad one back, and for the next few months kept emailing saying he didn't get his new one.

We had Fedex signed proof with his name, etc. He told his bank we never responded to him 1 time, fucker. We won in the end with Sig. proof and about 15 emails :(

believe it noob.

you have to be the biggest pussy I have ever heard of if a TV show makes you physically ill.

Mutt,

Happy Hanukkah :)

:1orglaugh

The sad thing is, it all seems to be described clearly in the Terms and Conditions. If the surfer read those before putting in their CC, they would realize what was going on. :2 cents:

God I hate seeing these people killing the business like this...

I agree I had paris hilton traffic, it never converted to anything.

Gee I'm glad I don't listen to people with 200 posts in 2 months.

I get 100+ spam promoting this site per day mate.....

Think?

-Ben

I agree, but in the end, there is nothing you or I can do about it. People like Atherton, Gould, etc have made/will make millions and laugh as they put the dirt on the tombstone of visa/mc and recurring billing for this business. They are laughing all the way to the bank no doubt.

Karmas a bitch.

Karma is a bitch sure.

But when you have $100million in the bank spread out all over the world, it can help overcome karma in the long run.

Undoubtly they're enjoying the millions they've made while we're all trying to make an honest buck and it's only getting harder on us. It's a real shame but your right, there isn't much we can do about it.

WG

There really isn't anything anyone can do about it.

Let's be ohnest this industry was made and survived on re-bills. mabey not every company, but most.

knock em for 29-49.00 per month and mabey get 4-6-12 months outta them, especially in the old days.

As I said to Mike today who I truly respect, the weeding out process has begun. companies and people will go away.

the gold rush will come back, but in a different format I belive.

he can afford to buy a lot of karma

hheh, you just have no idea how much bling they pulling, but sometimes it's good to have people like you.... :glugglug

I have heard similar numbers. Today I heard it was still averaging 10k joins a day.

I think with this latest celeb scandal to rock adult internet, it will mark the end of cc billing for celeb sites. I know quite a few sites have already lost cc processing and anyone left are living on borrowed time.


Not to insult anyone else that has posted in this thread but I would like to hear from quiet and Bradshaw in particular their thoughts on the Gina Lee Nolan tape that is said to be floating around? Will it have time to surface and be profitable or has paris put the nail in the coffin for future marketing exploits via credit card?

Other then dialers and cheques will there be another alternative billing solution introduced to fill the void of credit cards?

It's good to have lots of people like this. :glugglug

there always will be new things/scams ....

I will pay any webmaster who can show me a screen cap of there paris hilton stats an extra $500 on there pay check if they send me 100 joins in a pay period!!! $1000 if they send me 200!!!!

And you can send to QUICKBUCK

or CONVERSIONCASH

And thats a guarentee!!! Fuck That mother fucker ATHERTON!!! Send it so someone who works hard and gives back to the other webmasters out there!!!

Karma, i don't believe in it. People like Atherton don't have consciences and I don't believe in 'bad karma' - crooks, thieves, mobsters don't suffer any more tragedies and misfortune than the rest of us. Let's say Atherton got cancer, bunch of people would say 'ooooooo....bad karma, what goes around comes around' ........ what about the 10,000 honest people diagnosed with cancer today?

forget karma, the only way these type of people pay is when the law takes away their freedom and when you're talking about the tens of millions Atherton's making on the Paris Hilton and Jenna Jameson scams even at worst it would be maybe two years in jail.
Crime really does pay. If you have no conscience.

The Porn Mafia doesn't need karma just a nice little stack of benjamins and this guy is sleeping with the fishes.

:glugglug

And I'm sure there are plenty of GFY webmasters who site quiet while they spam the shit out of things for this guy via mail.

:321GFY

Where's the traffic coming from? Is it all their own mail traffic, or from an affiliate program or what?

At what rate per join?
WG

Traffic Rank for extremexxxfootage.com: 2,504

what ever program you sign up for man...
You take your pick I got so many different payouts between the 2 programs you can take your pic!!!

:thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup

I've been in this business for quite awhile and even though right now my income has taken a major kick in the ass I will not have anything to do with this whole Paris Hilton thing. I started this with the intentions of being in in for the long haul, not for quick money, scams or other bullshit, Personally, I'm fucking sick and tired of getting 100+ spams per day everyday having to do with that no brain slut paris hilton. It's scams like this that fuck things up for the rest of us. The more a surfer gets fucked the less they will buy memberships to porn sites and in the end we all lose.

WG is a professional with ethics. That is some what rare in this biz :thumbsup

I cant belive that guy running the hilton site is able to keep his site going with so much heat, complaints, and charge backs everyday.

Forgot to add that Paris Hilton is not only very DUMB but also fucking ugly as hell.

I will add this one more time!!