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NBDesign 12-19-2003 12:15 AM

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Originally posted by theking


As long as we maintain superior military power and technology...no one.

our superior military power and technology didn't stop 9/11...

Can you imagine if they took out the Hoover Dam instead of the trade centers? That supplies water and power for most of the southwest.

So, no matter how big and how powerful our military is, or how advanced our technology is.. we can still be taken out f it is done right.

Face it.. we are a soft society... we have machines that do everything for us... hell, we cannot even get up off our lazy asses to change the fucking tv stations... We have these new people movers... and motorized walk ways... sorry...we are a lazy nation of people... and yes, I am just as guilty... and just as lazy.

SureFire 12-19-2003 12:17 AM

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Originally posted by NBDesign
Again, how am i capitalizing?

and again.. if you cannot back up your statements... don't bother posting here. seriously... you are only making yourself look bad...

show me the open source... come on... show me...

Hint: http://www.aspin.com :winkwink: Should I give you some more hints that lead to open source code that you are trying to capitalize on and, at the same time, voice an opinion about current government?

NBDesign 12-19-2003 12:18 AM

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Originally posted by JDog


I agree, we shouldn't be foucsed on this and I watch Hardball tonight and they had some VERY good points! There was never any danger to the USA from Iraq/Saddam. He never posed a threat to us!

He was posing a threat on the Iraqi's themselves and the other countries, but what gives the us, USA, the rights to go and play dictator and tell Saddam he has to be taken out! I was fully against this war, since Saddam had nothing to do with 9/11 and he never posed any danger to us!

We need to get focused on what's really important, Bin fucking Laden, not fucking Saddam. Let's stay out of other peoples business and worry about ours!

jDoG

Amen to that :thumbsup

theking 12-19-2003 12:18 AM

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Originally posted by JDog


I agree, we shouldn't be foucsed on this and I watch Hardball tonight and they had some VERY good points! There was never any danger to the USA from Iraq/Saddam. He never posed a threat to us!

He was posing a threat on the Iraqi's themselves and the other countries, but what gives the us, USA, the rights to go and play dictator and tell Saddam he has to be taken out! I was fully against this war, since Saddam had nothing to do with 9/11 and he never posed any danger to us!

We need to get focused on what's really important, Bin fucking Laden, not fucking Saddam. Let's stay out of other peoples business and worry about ours!

jDoG

You do not seriously think that the capture of a single man..Bin Laden...will solve the problem of terrorist attacks...there are multiple terroist orgs other than Bin Laden's...and there are many people to fill his shoes. Bin Land as an individual has little importance other than as a trophy...it is the cells that are spread around the world that represent a significant problem...as well as the new orgs coming to light.

humanaut 12-19-2003 12:18 AM

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Originally posted by theking


You are almost comedic.

Yup, I'm a fucking riot:

http://www.yellowtimes.org/images/ar.../handshake.jpg

theking 12-19-2003 12:21 AM

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Originally posted by Roger


article here

I am aware of what was sold...and what was not sold...and I repeat the US never sold a single WMD to Iraq...but American companies did sell dual use materials.

Roger 12-19-2003 12:22 AM

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Originally posted by theking


I am aware of what was sold...and what was not sold...and I repeat the US never sold a single WMD to Iraq...but American companies did sell dual use materials.

With the approval of the US government.

NBDesign 12-19-2003 12:22 AM

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Originally posted by SureFire


Hint: http://www.aspin.com :winkwink: Should I give you some more hints that lead to open source code that you are trying to capitalize on and, at the same time, voice an opinion about current government?

And what open source code am I using? I have my programs listed there... is that what you mean?





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Thanks.. did not know that was posted... you just made my day.

But you still did not provide any open source code...

You cannot provide what is not available... like I said.. I created these programs.. I am not a scammer like some people around here.

Please try again.

theking 12-19-2003 12:24 AM

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Originally posted by NBDesign
our superior military power and technology didn't stop 9/11...

Can you imagine if they took out the Hoover Dam instead of the trade centers? That supplies water and power for most of the southwest.

So, no matter how big and how powerful our military is, or how advanced our technology is.. we can still be taken out f it is done right.

Face it.. we are a soft society... we have machines that do everything for us... hell, we cannot even get up off our lazy asses to change the fucking tv stations... We have these new people movers... and motorized walk ways... sorry...we are a lazy nation of people... and yes, I am just as guilty... and just as lazy.

If the CONUS is ever attacked in a significant way again...the World will reap the "Whirl Wind". Our response to the last attack has been mild.

uptheyingyang 12-19-2003 12:26 AM

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Originally posted by JohnAMC
I served in Viet Nam, Beirut, Iran, Somalia, Desert Storm, Bosnia, Afghanistan, and Iraq. The crap I have seen done to everyday people like you and your family, would turn your stomach as it did mine. I had many good friends that lost their lives trying to make this world a better place, for those that can't defend themselves. People that just want to scratch out a meager existance and don't a pot to piss in. If the U.S. as a superpower doesn't try to stem this tide, then who will. And when the shit hits the fan on our own ground as it did on 9-11, who will go after and stop the groups and tyrants that instigated it. You should feel very lucky that you live in a society that lets you question your government.

Sorry for the flag waving. But that is just the way I feel.


well, it isn't a perfect world, but someone needed to say that.

my father was in WWII getting shot at. if he and a whole bunch of other farm boys from America hadn't done what needed to be done i might be writing in german right now.

humanaut 12-19-2003 12:26 AM

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Originally posted by theking


If the CONUS is ever attacked in a significant way again...the World will reap the "Whirl Wind". Our response to the last attack has been mild.

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NBDesign 12-19-2003 12:26 AM

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Originally posted by theking


You do not seriously think that the capture of a single man..Bin Laden...will solve the problem of terrorist attacks...there are multiple terroist orgs other than Bin Laden's...and there are many people to fill his shoes.

I don't think it will solve the problem of terrorism, but it would be nice to get the man who has taken american lives on american soil... after all, this was his second attack on the world trade centers. I just think that if our government gave two shits about its people... he would be caught by now...

But as with leaving saddam alive after desert storm... maybe our government has their reasons for not going after him with the same vengence they went into iraq with.

SureFire 12-19-2003 12:35 AM

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Originally posted by NBDesign


And what open source code am I using? I have my programs listed there... is that what you mean?





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Thanks.. did not know that was posted... you just made my day.

But you still did not provide any open source code...

You cannot provide what is not available... like I said.. I created these programs.. I am not a scammer like some people around here.

Please try again.

Try again...you took the obvious hint so go smoke a joint or whatever. Happy 2004 with your life.:1orglaugh

theking 12-19-2003 12:36 AM

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Originally posted by Roger


With the approval of the US government.

The response to that is yes and no. Companies are at the present selling goods to countries around the world that are on the approved list of sales...but if some of the things that are currently being sold...come to some sinister use then they will be banned for sale to the country that is applying a sinister use...and it sometimes takes time to discover this. I do have no doubt that the government directly approved the sales of some dual use materials that it would have been prudent not to...but the times were such that we were trying to prevent a decisive loss by Iran or Iraq. Geo politics are not fun and games...but are serious matters...and are not black and white...but with shades of gray...and are not pleasant...but it is the responsibility of the US government to do what it perceives to be in the best interest of the nation. We are not compelled to seek approval of the UN or the world and in my opinion should never put the Nation in that position. Idealism has its place...but then cold hard reality...holds the upper hand.

NBDesign 12-19-2003 12:39 AM

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Originally posted by SureFire


Try again...you took the obvious hint so go smoke a joint or whatever. Happy 2004 with your life.:1orglaugh

???? has anyone ever told you, you make no fucking sense at all?

Just because I seel my scripts there they are open source? I have my scripts listed on many sites like that so that makes it open source? Again... show me what the fuck you are talking about... where is the open source?

If you cannot back up what you say then... please just shut the fuck up. :thumbsup

humanaut 12-19-2003 12:41 AM

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Originally posted by theking


We are not compelled to seek approval of the UN or the world and in my opinion should never put the Nation in that position. Idealism has its place...but then cold hard reality...holds the upper hand.

It's statements and opinions like this being expressed out of America that is causing the rest of the world great concern. It's pure world-dominanation talk, and the other large nations will never accept that.

The rest of the world doesn't want to be ruled by Americans. For the most part, you guys are NUTS. Arnold Schwarzenegger is a fucking governor, for fucks sake. Can't you see that something has gone horribly wrong with your country?

NBDesign 12-19-2003 12:44 AM

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Originally posted by humanaut

The rest of the world doesn't want to be ruled by Americans. For the most part, you guys are NUTS. Arnold Schwarzenegger is a fucking governor, for fucks sake. Can't you see that something has gone horribly wrong with your country?

And a pro wrestler too... Jessie "the body" ventura... was gov of Minnesota.. and ronald regan was an actor... yep... gotta love america...

actually, jessie ventura was a great gov. I think he would make a good president.

anidifranco 12-19-2003 12:46 AM

Just a line to say :thumbsup to Nbdesign.

theking 12-19-2003 12:48 AM

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Originally posted by humanaut


It's statements and opinions like this being expressed out of America that is causing the rest of the world great concern. It's pure world-dominanation talk, and the other large nations will never accept that.

The rest of the world doesn't want to be ruled by Americans. For the most part, you guys are NUTS. Arnold Schwarzenegger is a fucking governor, for fucks sake. Can't you see that something has gone horribly wrong with your country?

World domination is not a goal...and is not possible...the control of...or destruction of...individual countries that are perceived to be enemies...is possible. There is an easy solution...do not fuck with the USA.

SureFire 12-19-2003 12:49 AM

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Originally posted by NBDesign

???? has anyone ever told you, you make no fucking sense at all?

Just because I seel my scripts there they are open source? Again... show me what the fuck you are talking about... where is the open source?

If you cannot back up what you say then... please just shut the fuck up. :thumbsup

What fun would that be anti-american man? Let your friends defend my statements about asp open source for profit.:)

NBDesign 12-19-2003 12:52 AM

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Originally posted by SureFire


What fun would that be anti-american man? Let your friends defend my statements about asp open source for profit.:)

Unlike others on this board.. I do not need my friends to back me up. You are the one calling me a liar.. so prove it. Otherwise you are just another blow hard that spews out nothing but shit.

NBDesign 12-19-2003 12:53 AM

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Originally posted by anidifranco
Just a line to say :thumbsup to Nbdesign.
Thanks... but for what? :winkwink:

anidifranco 12-19-2003 12:53 AM

Conservatives love America the way a 4-year-old loves her mommy. Liberals love America like grown-ups. To a 4-year-old, everything Mommy does is wonderful and anyone who criticizes Mommy is bad. Grown-up love means actually understanding what you love, taking the good with the bad, and helping your loved one grow.

anidifranco 12-19-2003 12:54 AM

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Originally posted by NBDesign
Thanks... but for what? :winkwink:
Just for being one of the few smart people here.

Roger 12-19-2003 12:55 AM

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Originally posted by theking


World domination is not a goal...and is not possible...the control of...or destruction of...individual countries that are perceived to be enemies...is possible. There is an easy solution...do not fuck with the USA.

Hail Hitler :) Many countries have enough nukes to destroy the whole world. Look at NK for instance, it's scaring the hell outta Bush and it doesn't even have nukes yet.

theking 12-19-2003 12:57 AM

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Originally posted by Roger


Hail Hitler :) Many countries have enough nukes to destroy the whole world. Look at NK for instance, it's scaring the hell outta Bush and it doesn't even have nukes yet.

If North Korea does not back down...it will eventually be taken down...permanently...as should have happened in the first go around.

NBDesign 12-19-2003 12:57 AM

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Originally posted by anidifranco


Just for being one of the few smart people here.

Thanks... much appreciated. :thumbsup

NBDesign 12-19-2003 12:59 AM

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Originally posted by anidifranco
Conservatives love America the way a 4-year-old loves her mommy. Liberals love America like grown-ups. To a 4-year-old, everything Mommy does is wonderful and anyone who criticizes Mommy is bad. Grown-up love means actually understanding what you love, taking the good with the bad, and helping your loved one grow.
Wow.. never hear it put like that before.. :thumbsup

NBDesign 12-19-2003 01:00 AM

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Originally posted by theking


If North Korea does not back down...it will eventually be taken down...permanently...as should have happened in the first go around.

just like desert storm.. IMO.

NBDesign 12-19-2003 01:17 AM

Well surefire... still waiting... guess you cannot put your money where your mouth is. common, you called me a liar... show me your proof.

You can't can you? and why is that? Common big man... you talk a good game... time to prove yourself.

Roger 12-19-2003 01:18 AM

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Originally posted by theking


The response to that is yes and no. Companies are at the present selling goods to countries around the world that are on the approved list of sales...but if some of the things that are currently being sold...come to some sinister use then they will be banned for sale to the country that is applying a sinister use...and it sometimes takes time to discover this. I do have no doubt that the government directly approved the sales of some dual use materials that it would have been prudent not to...but the times were such that we were trying to prevent a decisive loss by Iran or Iraq. Geo politics are not fun and games...but are serious matters...and are not black and white...but with shades of gray...and are not pleasant...but it is the responsibility of the US government to do what it perceives to be in the best interest of the nation. We are not compelled to seek approval of the UN or the world and in my opinion should never put the Nation in that position. Idealism has its place...but then cold hard reality...holds the upper hand.

Yeah sure. If Reagan didn't remove Iraq from the terrorist supporting countries list this wouldn't have happened though.

So you shouldn't seek the UN approval but you shall beg for help from the UN when you need it?

Cold hard reality? Please, that's quiet a stupid excuse and one that Saddam often used to kill his enemies.

Lev 12-19-2003 01:20 AM

Who cares who's fault this war is, the important thing is that a tyrant that gased thousands of people is caugth and is going to be brought to justice, which will send a good message to the world. United States is a superpower and it has to show it, or else it wouldnt be, right? Look at history, every superpower invaded other countries and seized territories. At least the aim of the U.S. is not to kill people or turn the Iraqi people in to slaves. The Iraqi people are much better off with us than that old tyrant, after all Stalin was his role model. Maybe you war opposers do not see the bigger picture, but soon you will and you will thank the soldiers who lost their lives and understand their cause.

NBDesign 12-19-2003 01:22 AM

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Originally posted by Lev
Who cares who's fault this war is, the important thing is that a tyrant that gased thousands of people is caugth and is going to be brought to justice, which will send a good message to the world. United States is a superpower and it has to show it, or else it wouldnt be, right? Look at history, every superpower invaded other countries and seized territories. At least the aim of the U.S. is not to kill people or turn the Iraqi people in to slaves. The Iraqi people are much better off with us than that old tyrant, after all Stalin was his role model. Maybe you war opposers do not see the bigger picture, but soon you will and you will thank the soldiers who lost their lives and understand their cause.
Ok, lets look at history... every super power in the past has been overthrown... I feel much better now.. thanks.

SureFire 12-19-2003 01:23 AM

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Originally posted by NBDesign


Unlike others on this board.. I do not need my friends to back me up. You are the one calling me a liar.. so prove it. Otherwise you are just another blow hard that spews out nothing but shit.


Never called you a liar just doubted your hatred for the US government and questioned you about your scripts that you sell for profit.

Sorry that you need to defend yourself so much...BTW, do you do want another hint?

Lev 12-19-2003 01:24 AM

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Originally posted by uptheyingyang



well, it isn't a perfect world, but someone needed to say that.

my father was in WWII getting shot at. if he and a whole bunch of other farm boys from America hadn't done what needed to be done i might be writing in german right now.

You mean to say thanks to the Red Army that you are writing in English. American forces did minimal compared to the glorious Red Army.

Lev 12-19-2003 01:27 AM

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Originally posted by NBDesign
Ok, lets look at history... every super power in the past has been overthrown... I feel much better now.. thanks.
Hey I never said that the U.S. will not be overthrown, no empire lasts forever right. But at present, we stand strong and thats what counts, so enjoy :)

NBDesign 12-19-2003 01:30 AM

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Originally posted by SureFire



Never called you a liar just doubted your hatred for the US government and questioned you about your scripts that you sell for profit.

Sorry that you need to defend yourself so much...BTW, do you do want another hint?

By saying I am using open source code and selling it when I have told you I created it is calling me a liar.

Hints? for what? I know what I did and I do not need to prove anything to you or anyone else who does not believe me. If you can show me any open source code I use in my scripts... fine.. show me.. but you cant because I wrote these programs.

As for my dislike for our current administration.. one has nothing to do with the other.

as for defending myself... I am not... you are calling me a liar, all I am asking is that you back up your comments. If I am a liar... out me here and now...

so... again, I am asking for the last time... prove me a liar or shit up. is that too much to ask?

NBDesign 12-19-2003 01:31 AM

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Originally posted by Lev


Hey I never said that the U.S. will not be overthrown, no empire lasts forever right. But at present, we stand strong and thats what counts, so enjoy :)

:winkwink: gonna try :thumbsup

Roger 12-19-2003 01:33 AM

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Originally posted by Lev
Who cares who's fault this war is, the important thing is that a tyrant that gased thousands of people is caugth and is going to be brought to justice, which will send a good message to the world. United States is a superpower and it has to show it, or else it wouldnt be, right? Look at history, every superpower invaded other countries and seized territories. At least the aim of the U.S. is not to kill people or turn the Iraqi people in to slaves. The Iraqi people are much better off with us than that old tyrant, after all Stalin was his role model. Maybe you war opposers do not see the bigger picture, but soon you will and you will thank the soldiers who lost their lives and understand their cause.
Show what? If anything, this whole thing makes the US look quiet weak especially when the US is begging for other countries to get involved and send troops. Hearing about guerillas killing a few US soldiers doesn't really make me feel safe.

Yeah every superpower invaded other countries and seized territories, but the US could've started a new era. France and Britain are still paying for all the countries they invaded, look at Africa.

The Iraqi people are much better off under occupation? If you've lived under occupation you'd realise that what you're saying is quiet unbelievable. Imagine living under Martial law in your city, occupation is much worst.

theking 12-19-2003 01:34 AM

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Originally posted by Roger


Yeah sure. If Reagan didn't remove Iraq from the terrorist supporting countries list this wouldn't have happened though.

So you shouldn't seek the UN approval but you shall beg for help from the UN when you need it?

Cold hard reality? Please, that's quiet a stupid excuse and one that Saddam often used to kill his enemies.

Asking the UN to involve itself is not begging...and is of course the smart thing to do...if the UN does not...it is the dumb thing for them to do...and we will finish the job as we began it...basically by ourselves.

Not an excuse at all...the cold hard reality is that since the human animal came into existence...it has killed what it perceives to be its enemy...and will continue to do so. More that 14,000 known wars have been fought...since it left the caves about 30,000 years ago...and another 14,000 may be fougt in the next 30,000 years...providing that the human animal does not join the other 90% of all previous living things that are now extinct.


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