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pamphage · 12-17-2003, 01:03 PM

truman

myjah · 12-17-2003, 02:11 PM

i'm not sure myself, but my mom swears it was Carter

tootie · 12-17-2003, 02:12 PM

Don't kill me, but I actually liked Clinton.

DirtyDanza · 12-17-2003, 02:14 PM

regan...... by far... ask anyone who was doing buisness back then.....

Corleone · 12-17-2003, 02:15 PM

clinton

skillfull · 12-17-2003, 02:15 PM

Roosevelt

Scott McD · 12-17-2003, 02:16 PM

George Bush.

But then again i'm not American...

skillfull · 12-17-2003, 02:19 PM

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Originally posted by Scott McD
George Bush.

But then again i'm not American...

this is not the worst president thread, this is the best

Sarah_Jayne · 12-17-2003, 02:20 PM

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Originally posted by myjah
i'm not sure myself, but my mom swears it was Carter

my grandfather worked on his campaign and would always say that Carter was too good a man to be president. As far as what they do AFTER leaving office he has my vote hands down.

One of the coolest things in my childhood was going on a car trip to Georgia and stopping in some roadside shop run by a member of the Carter family and them knowing my grandpa. Guess the politics bug bit me then and there.

EscortBiz · 12-17-2003, 02:21 PM

clinton

tootie · 12-17-2003, 02:21 PM

My husband's father hates Carter, but being from Georgia, and seeing all the charity work that he has done since he left office, Carter is definately up there somewhere.

I also liked Reagan alot.

And of course Kennedy.

punker barbie · 12-17-2003, 02:25 PM

nixon!!

Fabuleux · 12-17-2003, 02:27 PM

Clinton!

Head · 12-17-2003, 02:28 PM

I would say Carter. Clinton was respected internationaly.

Minte · 12-17-2003, 02:28 PM

best 20th century president..handsdown FDR

best overall president..Lincoln

Sarah_Jayne · 12-17-2003, 02:31 PM

anyway my answer is Lincoln and Carter as most underrated.

RB Content · 12-17-2003, 02:39 PM

Best 20th century president:

FDR

Best man who was a president:

Carter (By far won the nobel peace prize for god sake.)

Best politician:

Clinton

Best worldvision:

Nixon ( yeah he was a crook BUT he knew to court China makes us stronger fiscally and safer overall every year)

Best president we have ever had:

Washington ( without his leadership and personal strength we would have a kingship at best but more probably a dicatorship)

rooster · 12-17-2003, 02:45 PM

its better to be feared than respected. Ever notice that most of the best bosses are dicks. I can think of some owners of companies on this board that are very good at what they do but are total dicks. They get the job done though.

Reagen is the best in recent memory imo, and I think gwb will be up there with him in the future.

The worst is Carter. Good leaders have a spine.

Id say Clinton was second worse. With his politician skills he could have done alot for this country. But he chose to just sit on his hands and do nothing but ride a phantom economy.

stocktrader23 · 12-17-2003, 02:46 PM

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Originally posted by EscortBiz
clinton

Maru · 12-17-2003, 02:54 PM

Lyndon B. Johnson.

GonePhishing · 12-17-2003, 02:55 PM

If not for Watergate... Nixon. He was kick ass in foreign policy. He also was kick ass with domestic.

Though, if I needed to pick another due to the watergate problem... I would have to go with Reagan or Clinton. Both made me happy to be in the usa.

Niether Bush Sr. Nor Jr. do it for me.

mijoon · 12-17-2003, 03:19 PM

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Originally posted by tootie
........................................And of course Kennedy.

Unless that's a joke , please tell us what he accomplished .

Personaly , I can't think of anything ......

Doctor Dre · 12-17-2003, 03:20 PM

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Originally posted by tootie
Don't kill me, but I actually liked Clinton.

Same here

Maru · 12-17-2003, 03:43 PM

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Originally posted by mijoon

Unless that's a joke , please tell us what Kennedy accomplished .

Personaly , I can't think of anything ......

Well, he f*cked Marilyn - apart from that, you're probably right, he also underestimated Vietnam totally - but what an exit. They're still discussing it.

misty3k · 12-17-2003, 03:57 PM

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Originally posted by mijoon

Unless that's a joke , please tell us what he accomplished .

Personaly , I can't think of anything ......

ahem. Peace Corps, Space Program.

Steve · 12-17-2003, 04:02 PM

FDR pulled the USA thru it's worst time of the modern era.
Carter? He was weak as shit as Pres., but I will say the guy has done so much humanitarian work since leaving office that you can't think ill of him. Maybe he was too nice for the job.

twistyneck · 12-17-2003, 04:05 PM

Grover Cleveland because of the way he forced Great Britain to accept arbitration of a disputed boundary in Venezuela.

JDog · 12-17-2003, 04:06 PM

Roosevelt/Clinton were the best presidents! If it wasn't for Roosevelt, Truman wouldn't have had the atomic bomb to drop, pamphage! Remember, Truman didn't know anything bout the project!

jDoG

ThunderBalls · 12-17-2003, 04:07 PM

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Originally posted by rooster

Id say Clinton was second worse. With his politician skills he could have done alot for this country. But he chose to just sit on his hands and do nothing but ride a phantom economy.

Let me guess...ummm....Pets.com?

mijoon · 12-17-2003, 04:09 PM

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Originally posted by misty3k

ahem. Peace Corps, Space Program.

Ahem,ahem . The space program was launched by Eisenhower in response to the grave military danger posed by the soviets placing sputnik in orbit .

The peace corp , cute as it was , was a rather minor thing .

EZRhino · 12-17-2003, 04:12 PM

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Originally posted by pamphage
truman

Not sure if that was supposed to be sarcasm but I really think Truman was the best president since America?s founding fathers

BradM · 12-17-2003, 04:12 PM

Clinton brought the US massive wealth and prosperity. Look at the deficit for fuck sakes.

Amazing president.

arial · 12-17-2003, 04:14 PM

Al Sharpton will be the best president ever!

Ben-MensNiche · 12-17-2003, 04:17 PM

I personally think they all have had their faults, but the one that gained most respect on the international scene was Clinton. Your country was also more respected by the rest of the world.

Sometimes diplomacy will get you further than brute force. Bush may have gotten you one of the top 10 most wanted, but if all your presidents were like Clinton, perhaps the U.S. would have less enemies.

RB Content · 12-17-2003, 04:36 PM

Clinton rode a "phantom economy"? Did you pull that out of Rush Limbaugh's book or Hannity's.

The longest upward swing in our economy EVER 1992-2000 WITH defecit REDUCTION.

You cannot say that about Reagen. And definitely not about either Bush's.

BradM · 12-17-2003, 04:37 PM

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Originally posted by Ben-MensNiche
I personally think they all have had their faults, but the one that gained most respect on the international scene was Clinton. Your country was also more respected by the rest of the world.

Sometimes diplomacy will get you further than brute force. Bush may have gotten you one of the top 10 most wanted, but if all your presidents were like Clinton, perhaps the U.S. would have less enemies.

Don't listen to the British people, they're in the same boat as you right now with Tony Blair.

Ben-MensNiche · 12-17-2003, 04:43 PM

Thanks Brad, at least our leaders have had a spine, unlike the Canadian leaders who just....fold.

BC Ferry dispute, Selling off the Canadian economy to other countries, backing down to the unions instead of telling them to get the hell back to work.

Great job Canada! Home of the people who hate the way everything goes against them, but doesn't care enough to do anything about it.

Should I keep going Brad? hehe

Keev · 12-17-2003, 04:45 PM

Reagan - Not too far behind Nixon
Nixon - Best foriegn Policy

Presidential Library literally around the corner, attended the public view and the grand opening when he was alive....

Clinton and Kennedy are tied for most charismatic presidents
they had a look and the ability to speak to people.

Clinton best bullshitter ever....

BradM · 12-17-2003, 04:46 PM

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Originally posted by Ben-MensNiche
Should I keep going Brad? hehe

Yeah, but we like it that way. It's a LOT easier to let diplomacy slip and just sit around talking about it as opposed to taking action.

Ic3m4nZ · 12-17-2003, 04:46 PM

Only clinton was great for the Monica shot

EZRhino · 12-17-2003, 04:47 PM

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Originally posted by arial
Al Sharpton will be the best president ever!

Ben-MensNiche · 12-17-2003, 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradM

Yeah, but we like it that way. It's a LOT easier to let diplomacy slip and just sit around talking about it as opposed to taking action.

Pass me those Doritos...

BradM · 12-17-2003, 04:48 PM

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Originally posted by Ben-MensNiche
Pass me those Doritos...

Sure. But let's discuss the doritos first. Maybe if we talk about it long enough we will both forget what it was we were talking about to begin with?

EZRhino · 12-17-2003, 04:50 PM

As I understand economy, a Presidents policy doesnt effect the economy instantly, it usually takes about 4 to 5 years for a policy to show a change in the economy.

Ben-MensNiche · 12-17-2003, 04:53 PM

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Originally posted by BradM

Sure. But let's discuss the doritos first. Maybe if we talk about it long enough we will both forget what it was we were talking about to begin with?

What were we talking about?

rebel23 · 12-17-2003, 05:06 PM

Theo · 12-17-2003, 05:19 PM

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Originally posted by Maru
Lyndon B. Johnson.

"F**k your Parliament and your Constitution.... If your Prime Minister [George Papandreou] gives me talk about democracy, parliaments and constitutions, he, his Parliament and his Constitution may not last very long."

Pres. Lyndon Johnson, said this to Greek Ambassador in U.S., mid-1960s. (from Philip Deane's I Should Have Died, 1977.

Of course Papandreou didn't step back during the crisis regarding Cyprus. Lyndon Johnson later on said that Greece is a too lucky country to have such a prime minister to protect its interest with so passion.

Definetely a respected personality.

Buffed Body · 12-17-2003, 05:24 PM

Bill Clinton hands down, of all presidents the U.S has ever had.

Best econmic turnaround in the world's history, awesome foreign policy, and incredible forsight.

People laugh when Gore says he created the internet, but if it wasn't for the Clinton admin... the internet would be "The AOL Network" A repuplican govt would have stayed out of it on principal.

On a similar note, Clinton also insured the Human Genome wouldn't be owned by a private company. If he hadn't stepped up funding for the public project, one company would own the patent on the entire human genome. It's a BIG difference, but people won't see the benefits for probably 10 to 20 years.

He also renegotiated the free trade agreement with Canada under NAFTA. Believe me, Canada got screwed so bad we didn't even see what hit us. Basically, we signed over all our natural resources to the U.S. Under NAFTA, if Canada holds back a natural resource from a U.S. company, that company can sue our govt for lost revenue until they're given access.

It's something you yankees won't appreciate until your resources are used up. It'll be EXTREMELY valuable in about 50 years and on. Your great grandchildren are going to owe Clinton a very big 'thank you'.

traffictrader · 12-17-2003, 07:20 PM

FDR,

next question?

The guy lead us through the great depression, and two world wars. If he was immortal, he would still be our president.

Best Person - Carter
Best Politician - Jefferson
Best Diplomat - JFK
Best Puppet - Reagan
Best Econimist - Clinton (I'm rating on fiscal responibility and economic growth)

ThunderBalls · 12-17-2003, 07:32 PM

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Originally posted by EZRhino
As I understand economy, a Presidents policy doesnt effect the economy instantly, it usually takes about 4 to 5 years for a policy to show a change in the economy.

A republican lie. What do you think would happen to a CEO of a corporation if he fed this line of shit to his shareholders?

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RB Content Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Alb,NM,USA Posts: 34	Best 20th century president: FDR Best man who was a president: Carter (By far won the nobel peace prize for god sake.) Best politician: Clinton Best worldvision: Nixon ( yeah he was a crook BUT he knew to court China makes us stronger fiscally and safer overall every year) Best president we have ever had: Washington ( without his leadership and personal strength we would have a kingship at best but more probably a dicatorship) __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

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rooster Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,384	its better to be feared than respected. Ever notice that most of the best bosses are dicks. I can think of some owners of companies on this board that are very good at what they do but are total dicks. They get the job done though. Reagen is the best in recent memory imo, and I think gwb will be up there with him in the future. The worst is Carter. Good leaders have a spine. Id say Clinton was second worse. With his politician skills he could have done alot for this country. But he chose to just sit on his hands and do nothing but ride a phantom economy. __________________ Ever notice that pretty much everything added to the Constitution after the original was a mistake. Last edited by rooster; 12-17-2003 at 02:49 PM..

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GonePhishing Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Blah Posts: 2,474	If not for Watergate... Nixon. He was kick ass in foreign policy. He also was kick ass with domestic. Though, if I needed to pick another due to the watergate problem... I would have to go with Reagan or Clinton. Both made me happy to be in the usa. Niether Bush Sr. Nor Jr. do it for me. __________________ If Biff Fucks My Mom... I Might Never Be Born...

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Steve Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: USA Posts: 6,894	FDR pulled the USA thru it's worst time of the modern era. Carter? He was weak as shit as Pres., but I will say the guy has done so much humanitarian work since leaving office that you can't think ill of him. Maybe he was too nice for the job.

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BradM Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: 1123,6536,5231 Posts: 3,397	Clinton brought the US massive wealth and prosperity. Look at the deficit for fuck sakes. Amazing president.

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RB Content Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Alb,NM,USA Posts: 34	Clinton rode a "phantom economy"? Did you pull that out of Rush Limbaugh's book or Hannity's. The longest upward swing in our economy EVER 1992-2000 WITH defecit REDUCTION. You cannot say that about Reagen. And definitely not about either Bush's. __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

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Keev Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 5,335	Reagan - Not too far behind Nixon Nixon - Best foriegn Policy Presidential Library literally around the corner, attended the public view and the grand opening when he was alive.... Clinton and Kennedy are tied for most charismatic presidents they had a look and the ability to speak to people. Clinton best bullshitter ever.... __________________ ReliableServers.com - NO REF LINK!

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Buffed Body Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Canada Posts: 114	Bill Clinton hands down, of all presidents the U.S has ever had. Best econmic turnaround in the world's history, awesome foreign policy, and incredible forsight. People laugh when Gore says he created the internet, but if it wasn't for the Clinton admin... the internet would be "The AOL Network" A repuplican govt would have stayed out of it on principal. On a similar note, Clinton also insured the Human Genome wouldn't be owned by a private company. If he hadn't stepped up funding for the public project, one company would own the patent on the entire human genome. It's a BIG difference, but people won't see the benefits for probably 10 to 20 years. He also renegotiated the free trade agreement with Canada under NAFTA. Believe me, Canada got screwed so bad we didn't even see what hit us. Basically, we signed over all our natural resources to the U.S. Under NAFTA, if Canada holds back a natural resource from a U.S. company, that company can sue our govt for lost revenue until they're given access. It's something you yankees won't appreciate until your resources are used up. It'll be EXTREMELY valuable in about 50 years and on. Your great grandchildren are going to owe Clinton a very big 'thank you'. __________________ Ambition is as common as dirt.

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