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pamphage 12-17-2003 01:03 PM

best american president ever
 
truman

http://www.dalitstan.org/journal/images/nuclear1.jpg

myjah 12-17-2003 02:11 PM

i'm not sure myself, but my mom swears it was Carter

tootie 12-17-2003 02:12 PM

Don't kill me, but I actually liked Clinton. :)

DirtyDanza 12-17-2003 02:14 PM

regan...... by far... ask anyone who was doing buisness back then.....

Corleone 12-17-2003 02:15 PM

clinton :thumbsup

skillfull 12-17-2003 02:15 PM

Roosevelt

Scott McD 12-17-2003 02:16 PM

George Bush.


But then again i'm not American... :winkwink:

skillfull 12-17-2003 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Scott McD
George Bush.


But then again i'm not American... :winkwink:

this is not the worst president thread, this is the best :2 cents:

Sarah_Jayne 12-17-2003 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by myjah
i'm not sure myself, but my mom swears it was Carter
my grandfather worked on his campaign and would always say that Carter was too good a man to be president. As far as what they do AFTER leaving office he has my vote hands down.

One of the coolest things in my childhood was going on a car trip to Georgia and stopping in some roadside shop run by a member of the Carter family and them knowing my grandpa. Guess the politics bug bit me then and there.

EscortBiz 12-17-2003 02:21 PM

clinton

tootie 12-17-2003 02:21 PM

My husband's father hates Carter, but being from Georgia, and seeing all the charity work that he has done since he left office, Carter is definately up there somewhere.

I also liked Reagan alot.

And of course Kennedy.

punker barbie 12-17-2003 02:25 PM

nixon!!

Fabuleux 12-17-2003 02:27 PM

Clinton!

Head 12-17-2003 02:28 PM

I would say Carter. Clinton was respected internationaly.

Minte 12-17-2003 02:28 PM

best 20th century president..handsdown FDR

best overall president..Lincoln

Sarah_Jayne 12-17-2003 02:31 PM

anyway my answer is Lincoln and Carter as most underrated.

RB Content 12-17-2003 02:39 PM

Best 20th century president:

FDR

Best man who was a president:

Carter (By far won the nobel peace prize for god sake.)

Best politician:

Clinton

Best worldvision:

Nixon ( yeah he was a crook BUT he knew to court China makes us stronger fiscally and safer overall every year)

Best president we have ever had:

Washington ( without his leadership and personal strength we would have a kingship at best but more probably a dicatorship)

rooster 12-17-2003 02:45 PM

its better to be feared than respected. Ever notice that most of the best bosses are dicks. I can think of some owners of companies on this board that are very good at what they do but are total dicks. They get the job done though.


Reagen is the best in recent memory imo, and I think gwb will be up there with him in the future.



The worst is Carter. Good leaders have a spine.



Id say Clinton was second worse. With his politician skills he could have done alot for this country. But he chose to just sit on his hands and do nothing but ride a phantom economy.

stocktrader23 12-17-2003 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by EscortBiz
clinton

Maru 12-17-2003 02:54 PM

Lyndon B. Johnson.

GonePhishing 12-17-2003 02:55 PM

If not for Watergate... Nixon. He was kick ass in foreign policy. He also was kick ass with domestic.

Though, if I needed to pick another due to the watergate problem... I would have to go with Reagan or Clinton. Both made me happy to be in the usa.

Niether Bush Sr. Nor Jr. do it for me.

mijoon 12-17-2003 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tootie
........................................And of course Kennedy.
Unless that's a joke , please tell us what he accomplished .

Personaly , I can't think of anything ......

Doctor Dre 12-17-2003 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tootie
Don't kill me, but I actually liked Clinton. :)
Same here

Maru 12-17-2003 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mijoon



Unless that's a joke , please tell us what Kennedy accomplished .

Personaly , I can't think of anything ......

Well, he f*cked Marilyn - apart from that, you're probably right, he also underestimated Vietnam totally - but what an exit. They're still discussing it.

misty3k 12-17-2003 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mijoon


Unless that's a joke , please tell us what he accomplished .

Personaly , I can't think of anything ......

ahem. Peace Corps, Space Program.

Steve 12-17-2003 04:02 PM

FDR pulled the USA thru it's worst time of the modern era.
Carter? He was weak as shit as Pres., but I will say the guy has done so much humanitarian work since leaving office that you can't think ill of him. Maybe he was too nice for the job.

twistyneck 12-17-2003 04:05 PM

Grover Cleveland because of the way he forced Great Britain to accept arbitration of a disputed boundary in Venezuela.

JDog 12-17-2003 04:06 PM

Roosevelt/Clinton were the best presidents! If it wasn't for Roosevelt, Truman wouldn't have had the atomic bomb to drop, pamphage! Remember, Truman didn't know anything bout the project!

jDoG

ThunderBalls 12-17-2003 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rooster

Id say Clinton was second worse. With his politician skills he could have done alot for this country. But he chose to just sit on his hands and do nothing but ride a phantom economy.


Let me guess...ummm....Pets.com? :1orglaugh

mijoon 12-17-2003 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by misty3k


ahem. Peace Corps, Space Program.

Ahem,ahem . The space program was launched by Eisenhower in response to the grave military danger posed by the soviets placing sputnik in orbit .

The peace corp , cute as it was , was a rather minor thing .

:)

EZRhino 12-17-2003 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pamphage
truman

http://www.dalitstan.org/journal/images/nuclear1.jpg

Not sure if that was supposed to be sarcasm but I really think Truman was the best president since America?s founding fathers
:thumbsup

BradM 12-17-2003 04:12 PM

Clinton brought the US massive wealth and prosperity. Look at the deficit for fuck sakes.

Amazing president.

arial 12-17-2003 04:14 PM

Al Sharpton will be the best president ever!

Ben-MensNiche 12-17-2003 04:17 PM

I personally think they all have had their faults, but the one that gained most respect on the international scene was Clinton. Your country was also more respected by the rest of the world.

Sometimes diplomacy will get you further than brute force. Bush may have gotten you one of the top 10 most wanted, but if all your presidents were like Clinton, perhaps the U.S. would have less enemies.

RB Content 12-17-2003 04:36 PM

Clinton rode a "phantom economy"? Did you pull that out of Rush Limbaugh's book or Hannity's.

The longest upward swing in our economy EVER 1992-2000 WITH defecit REDUCTION.

You cannot say that about Reagen. And definitely not about either Bush's.

BradM 12-17-2003 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ben-MensNiche
I personally think they all have had their faults, but the one that gained most respect on the international scene was Clinton. Your country was also more respected by the rest of the world.

Sometimes diplomacy will get you further than brute force. Bush may have gotten you one of the top 10 most wanted, but if all your presidents were like Clinton, perhaps the U.S. would have less enemies.

Don't listen to the British people, they're in the same boat as you right now with Tony Blair.

Ben-MensNiche 12-17-2003 04:43 PM

Thanks Brad, at least our leaders have had a spine, unlike the Canadian leaders who just....fold.

BC Ferry dispute, Selling off the Canadian economy to other countries, backing down to the unions instead of telling them to get the hell back to work.

Great job Canada! Home of the people who hate the way everything goes against them, but doesn't care enough to do anything about it.

Should I keep going Brad? hehe

Keev 12-17-2003 04:45 PM

Reagan - Not too far behind Nixon
Nixon - Best foriegn Policy

Presidential Library literally around the corner, attended the public view and the grand opening when he was alive....

Clinton and Kennedy are tied for most charismatic presidents
they had a look and the ability to speak to people.

Clinton best bullshitter ever....

BradM 12-17-2003 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ben-MensNiche
Should I keep going Brad? hehe
Yeah, but we like it that way. It's a LOT easier to let diplomacy slip and just sit around talking about it as opposed to taking action.

Ic3m4nZ 12-17-2003 04:46 PM

Only clinton was great for the Monica shot :thumbsup

EZRhino 12-17-2003 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by arial
Al Sharpton will be the best president ever!
:1orglaugh

Ben-MensNiche 12-17-2003 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradM


Yeah, but we like it that way. It's a LOT easier to let diplomacy slip and just sit around talking about it as opposed to taking action.

Pass me those Doritos...

BradM 12-17-2003 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ben-MensNiche
Pass me those Doritos...
Sure. But let's discuss the doritos first. Maybe if we talk about it long enough we will both forget what it was we were talking about to begin with?

EZRhino 12-17-2003 04:50 PM

As I understand economy, a Presidents policy doesnt effect the economy instantly, it usually takes about 4 to 5 years for a policy to show a change in the economy.

Ben-MensNiche 12-17-2003 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradM


Sure. But let's discuss the doritos first. Maybe if we talk about it long enough we will both forget what it was we were talking about to begin with?

What were we talking about?

rebel23 12-17-2003 05:06 PM

http://www.gmu.edu/library/specialco...srmn1_9_1f.jpg

http://www.gmu.edu/library/specialco...srmn4_3_3f.jpg

Theo 12-17-2003 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Maru
Lyndon B. Johnson.

"F**k your Parliament and your Constitution.... If your Prime Minister [George Papandreou] gives me talk about democracy, parliaments and constitutions, he, his Parliament and his Constitution may not last very long."

Pres. Lyndon Johnson, said this to Greek Ambassador in U.S., mid-1960s. (from Philip Deane's I Should Have Died, 1977.


Of course Papandreou didn't step back during the crisis regarding Cyprus. Lyndon Johnson later on said that Greece is a too lucky country to have such a prime minister to protect its interest with so passion.

Definetely a respected personality.

Buffed Body 12-17-2003 05:24 PM

Bill Clinton hands down, of all presidents the U.S has ever had.

Best econmic turnaround in the world's history, awesome foreign policy, and incredible forsight.

People laugh when Gore says he created the internet, but if it wasn't for the Clinton admin... the internet would be "The AOL Network" A repuplican govt would have stayed out of it on principal.

On a similar note, Clinton also insured the Human Genome wouldn't be owned by a private company. If he hadn't stepped up funding for the public project, one company would own the patent on the entire human genome. It's a BIG difference, but people won't see the benefits for probably 10 to 20 years.

He also renegotiated the free trade agreement with Canada under NAFTA. Believe me, Canada got screwed so bad we didn't even see what hit us. Basically, we signed over all our natural resources to the U.S. Under NAFTA, if Canada holds back a natural resource from a U.S. company, that company can sue our govt for lost revenue until they're given access.

It's something you yankees won't appreciate until your resources are used up. It'll be EXTREMELY valuable in about 50 years and on. Your great grandchildren are going to owe Clinton a very big 'thank you'.

traffictrader 12-17-2003 07:20 PM

FDR,

next question?

The guy lead us through the great depression, and two world wars. If he was immortal, he would still be our president.

Best Person - Carter
Best Politician - Jefferson
Best Diplomat - JFK
Best Puppet - Reagan
Best Econimist - Clinton (I'm rating on fiscal responibility and economic growth)

ThunderBalls 12-17-2003 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by EZRhino
As I understand economy, a Presidents policy doesnt effect the economy instantly, it usually takes about 4 to 5 years for a policy to show a change in the economy.
A republican lie. What do you think would happen to a CEO of a corporation if he fed this line of shit to his shareholders?


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