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Old 12-09-2003, 12:43 PM   #1
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Old 12-09-2003, 12:45 PM   #2
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How about asking nicely instead of demanding?

Rude bastard......

Oh...BTW...He has a contact page on his site and usually replies within 20 minutes or so....From my experiences with him.
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he just blocked me on ICQ.... (I think)

I ordered his tgp software a week ago.... and was trying to help him out so he could finish the install... and he just freaked out on me....
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I didn't freak out. I got pissed, refunded your money and moved on. You should too. No harm, no foul.
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he just blocked me on ICQ.... (I think)

I ordered his tgp software a week ago.... and was trying to help him out so he could finish the install... and he just freaked out on me....
Not his style. The guy is a class act. If he did that...I'm sure it was justified. Perhaps his computer crashed or something?
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I didn't freak out. I got pissed, refunded your money and moved on. You should too. No harm, no foul.
As I said....Most likely justified.
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I didn't freak out. I got pissed, refunded your money and moved on. You should too. No harm, no foul.
you did freak out.... i was just trying to help you out with your questions.... if you got a rude tone from me, you are FAR off base.... I don't want a refund... i want your software.....

Anyways... no hard feelings.... but i would really like to still get your software....
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Not his style. The guy is a class act. If he did that...I'm sure it was justified. Perhaps his computer crashed or something?
yeah i think he's a class act too... i've talked to him quite a few times before on icq... (he's only like 2 hours away).....
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yeah i think he's a class act too... i've talked to him quite a few times before on icq... (he's only like 2 hours away).....
If you want his software then perhaps you should drive over, buy him a few drinks, kiss his ass, and then beg for his forgiveness.
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If you want his software then perhaps you should drive over, buy him a few drinks, kiss his ass, and then beg for his forgiveness.
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Old 12-09-2003, 03:58 PM   #14
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yeah i think he's a class act too... i've talked to him quite a few times before on icq... (he's only like 2 hours away).....
I'll second that, Tony is one of the friendliest and most helpful webmasters I know
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hey TGPDevil, with BS-TGP.. Do you just upload a list of the hosted TGP's and it prompts you one by one to crop a thumb for them? Also, does it give you a field for a description in the event you want to use text links?
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Old 12-09-2003, 05:24 PM   #16
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I worked on a guys site that had A&M's software, nice work if you ask me. Well worth the money. Sounds like you made him mad and he used the old business right of "We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone!"

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Old 12-09-2003, 05:31 PM   #17
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here's all the communication from today:

necoeds: i have my host on the line
necoeds: need to get this fixed
TGP Devil: I'm here now. Did he get it fixed?
necoeds: yes
necoeds: now what?
TGP Devil: Your root mysql password must have changed. Any idea what the new one might be?
necoeds: just asked him
necoeds: it's **** right?
necoeds: no but mysql wasnt running - i restarted it
necoeds: yeah works now
TGP Devil: Cool deal.
necoeds: now what?
TGP Devil: I will finish the install.
necoeds: k
necoeds: i really need to get going on this
necoeds: ;-)
TGP Devil: Are you always this big of a pain in the ass? If so, just tell me and I will refund your money.
necoeds: ?... no... are you kidding?
TGP Devil: No, very serious.
necoeds: lol
necoeds: no... just it's been hard to get you and my host online at the same time
necoeds: i'm sorry if i have been.... my bad...
TGP Devil: Okay, I'm done with this deal. You have a refund. You might want to check out Comus (Link: http://www.nibbi.net/scripts/comus_thumbs.php)http://www.nibbi.net/scripts/comus_thumbs.php
necoeds: what?
necoeds: WTF
necoeds: chill out man
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i did NOTHING to provoke him.... he probably just had other shit going on, and took it out on me.... imo, completely unlike him....

I spent a long time picking a program i wanted... and i chose his.... and bottom line is that i was very patient to wait a week for the install.... yes i was a little bit "pushy"... as in trying to get him and my hosting support online at the same time.... but he blew up for no reason...
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here's all the communication from today:

necoeds: i have my host on the line
necoeds: need to get this fixed
TGP Devil: I'm here now. Did he get it fixed?
necoeds: yes
necoeds: now what?
TGP Devil: Your root mysql password must have changed. Any idea what the new one might be?
necoeds: just asked him
necoeds: it's **** right?
necoeds: no but mysql wasnt running - i restarted it
necoeds: yeah works now
TGP Devil: Cool deal.
necoeds: now what?
TGP Devil: I will finish the install.
necoeds: k
necoeds: i really need to get going on this
necoeds: ;-)
TGP Devil: Are you always this big of a pain in the ass? If so, just tell me and I will refund your money.
necoeds: ?... no... are you kidding?
TGP Devil: No, very serious.
necoeds: lol
necoeds: no... just it's been hard to get you and my host online at the same time
necoeds: i'm sorry if i have been.... my bad...
TGP Devil: Okay, I'm done with this deal. You have a refund. You might want to check out Comus (Link: http://www.nibbi.net/scripts/comus_thumbs.php)http://www.nibbi.net/scripts/comus_thumbs.php
necoeds: what?
necoeds: WTF
necoeds: chill out man
necoeds: dude
WTF?
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That wasn't a very professional conversation from him. HOWEVER I am sure he has his reasons. I have never seen him lose his temper like that. Perhaps holiday dulldrums?
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WTF?
EXACTLY!... AaronM.... what's your take?
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That wasn't a very professional conversation from him. HOWEVER I am sure he has his reasons. I have never seen him lose his temper like that. Perhaps holiday dulldrums?
that's my thought as well... and i didn't in any way wish to do anything except get the script installed ....

I was just keeping the ball in his court... IE, he'd run into something wrong with some setting.... i'd get it fixed... then ask him what he needed next......

Bottom line is that i want his software.... I still do....
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thats so weird TGPDevil has always been cool with me and ive asked about a thousand questions.
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thats so weird TGPDevil has always been cool with me and ive asked about a thousand questions.
yeah i think he just needs to take a nap.... i know he mentioned that he was extremely busy with coding his new version of tgp.... so maybe he was just frustrated....

I just want a copy.... that's it....
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here's all the communication from today:

necoeds: i have my host on the line
necoeds: need to get this fixed
TGP Devil: I'm here now. Did he get it fixed?
necoeds: yes
necoeds: now what?
TGP Devil: Your root mysql password must have changed. Any idea what the new one might be?
necoeds: just asked him
necoeds: it's **** right?
necoeds: no but mysql wasnt running - i restarted it
necoeds: yeah works now
TGP Devil: Cool deal.
necoeds: now what?
TGP Devil: I will finish the install.
necoeds: k
necoeds: i really need to get going on this
necoeds: ;-)
TGP Devil: Are you always this big of a pain in the ass? If so, just tell me and I will refund your money.
necoeds: ?... no... are you kidding?
TGP Devil: No, very serious.
necoeds: lol
necoeds: no... just it's been hard to get you and my host online at the same time
necoeds: i'm sorry if i have been.... my bad...
TGP Devil: Okay, I'm done with this deal. You have a refund. You might want to check out Comus (Link: http://www.nibbi.net/scripts/comus_thumbs.php)http://www.nibbi.net/scripts/comus_thumbs.php
necoeds: what?
necoeds: WTF
necoeds: chill out man
necoeds: dude
... went through pretty much the same shit with him, too long ago and I can't really recall it 100% ... but yes, something pissed him off ... I guess this guy is very sensitive and you'll have to treat him like a lady.
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EXACTLY!... AaronM.... what's your take?
What's my take?

My take is that you have obviously had prior conversations with him and you most likely irritated him before.

Personally, You irritate the fuck out of me all the time with the spamming of your shit. I would not have done business with you in the first place if I were in his position.

Go ahead and defend yourself by telling us all that you are not a spamming fuck. I will be happy to direct you to posts from Lensman where he indicates the same thing about you.


Aren't you glad you asked for my input now?

Any other questions?
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What's my take?

My take is that you have obviously had prior conversations with him and you most likely irritated him before.

Personally, You irritate the fuck out of me all the time with the spamming of your shit. I would not have done business with you in the first place if I were in his position.

Go ahead and defend yourself by telling us all that you are not a spamming fuck. I will be happy to direct you to posts from Lensman where he indicates the same thing about you.


Aren't you glad you asked for my input now?

Any other questions?
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yeah i think he just needs to take a nap.... i know he mentioned that he was extremely busy with coding his new version of tgp.... so maybe he was just frustrated....

I just want a copy.... that's it....

Dude why you come here and beg him for thiss script

i am %100 sure you make enough bling bling to spam here your

crappy , shown on tv website every fucking x min

dont you ?

go pay a php programmer .. dont be cheap bastard
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Dude why you come here and beg him for thiss script

i am %100 sure you make enough bling bling to spam here your

crappy , shown on tv website every fucking x min

dont you ?

go pay a php programmer .. dont be cheap bastard
ahhh, you're one of those guys that keep on reinventing the wheel?
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What's my take?

My take is that you have obviously had prior conversations with him and you most likely irritated him before.

Personally, You irritate the fuck out of me all the time with the spamming of your shit. I would not have done business with you in the first place if I were in his position.

Go ahead and defend yourself by telling us all that you are not a spamming fuck. I will be happy to direct you to posts from Lensman where he indicates the same thing about you.


Aren't you glad you asked for my input now?

Any other questions?


blieve me i did not see this before i post

we have exactly same toughts.

this guy spam his bullshit site every x second here and
noone says anything -
i always tought lens or moderators let him to
spam his shit here and he paid for advertisement here ..
but as i see
its just a spammer like all %80 around here
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I dont believe anything this guy says. Pasting the last 5 lines of your convo does not justify anything. I am 100% possitive you drove him insane.

TGPdevil is probably the most patient guy I've ever worked with. You HAD to have just crossed the line with him.

Go home kid.
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No disrespect intended Necoeds. But I get the feeling that this is not the first time you have discussed the install of your software with A&H.

I stopped installing software and designing mainstream sites because I had one too many people I considered to be a pain in the ass.

They ask you a question, you give them an answer, and then they want to ICQ, AIM, YIM or email youi every fucking 5 god damn minutes to check progress, change something. ask a question that if they would wait until the initial install or design was complete wouldn't exist. Give you additional information that is not important. Just chat, explain to you how they know what they are doing "but don't have the time to do it themselves". Tell you what a friend told them about fill in the topic . And anyother non productive communication you can think of.

Yeah, I know who paid the bills, the consumer. I went corporate and have never been happier. I only deal with a small group of people who realize, My function is X. they no very little about it, don't care to know anymore about it. Their function is Y.

I am not implying you did any of these things, but maybe this has happened to A&H one too many times, and he didn't like the working relationship the two of you were developing.
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I dont know TGP Devil, nor do I know necoeds, from what I've read here I have to assume TGP Devil is extremely up-pro and that is no way to speak to a client. Things cant always go smoothly yea know, there will be times where some clients are going to be pains, he still has to be respected as a client.WTF?!?!
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Yes and out of respect for his client A&H granted a no hassle
refund and did not come to GFY and tell the masses of a
rough time he had with a client.

He gave a refund and offered up a solution to his script needs.
Did not say anything over the top or Rude.

Seemed ok to me.
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I dont know TGP Devil, nor do I know necoeds, from what I've read here I have to assume TGP Devil is extremely up-pro and that is no way to speak to a client. Things cant always go smoothly yea know, there will be times where some clients are going to be pains, he still has to be respected as a client.WTF?!?!

It's HIS business. He can take or leave the client. That's the beauty of running your own company. I have had clients treat me like shit and become a pain in the ass. If/when this happens...I cut them loose as well.
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Not his style. The guy is a class act. If he did that...I'm sure it was justified. Perhaps his computer crashed or something?
Or just the way NECOEDS approaches him. Necoeds, you attract more flies with honey than with vinegar, buddy.
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thats so weird TGPDevil has always been cool with me and ive asked about a thousand questions.
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Old 12-09-2003, 06:26 PM   #42
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It's HIS business. He can take or leave the client. That's the beauty of running your own company. I have had clients treat me like shit and become a pain in the ass. If/when this happens...I cut them loose as well.
I agree 100%, I had my own biz since the age of 18. I to had many clients I did not want to service, however not once was I rude to a client. There many professional ways to handle this, call a client a "pain in the ass" is not one of them. But them again thats just me, maybe im too nice.

A certain level of professionalism must kept, no?
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I dont know TGP Devil, nor do I know necoeds, from what I've read here I have to assume TGP Devil is extremely up-pro and that is no way to speak to a client. Things cant always go smoothly yea know, there will be times where some clients are going to be pains, he still has to be respected as a client.WTF?!?!
Hey it's A&H company, he could deal with a customer how he wants. I would do the same for a customer, cause I don't really need any more pain in the ass.

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There's a lot more to it than this conversation. It's one thing after another with you and I don't have the time or energy to fuck with you. If you are that big of a pain in my ass, the best thing would be to send you to my competition. I can't believe you were such a big fucking baby and felt the need to start a thread about it. Just get lost, no need to make a big deal out of it.
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I dont know TGP Devil, nor do I know necoeds, from what I've read here I have to assume TGP Devil is extremely up-pro and that is no way to speak to a client. Things cant always go smoothly yea know, there will be times where some clients are going to be pains, he still has to be respected as a client.WTF?!?!
The problem is that some of you fucking jackasses feel like the "customer is always right". That is horseshit. I am not Wal-Mart. I do not need money from selling scripts. This is not my main business. I have hundreds of customers that I absolutely like the hell out of. 99% of them are outstanding. I have numerous customers that have actually become good friends. Once in a while there comes someone who pisses me off and I say what's on my mind. Sorry that offends some of you. If you are one of those that disagrees with me, take your money elsewhere. I don't want it or need it.
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hey fuck you A & H....

I really don't even think you remember who i am... i'm in nebraska remember....

Here's the full text of ALL communication between me and him within the last 2 months!

http://www.nebraskacoeds.com/gfy/tgpdevil.txt


Everybody can make their own opinions on this... Including AaronM....

I did nothing FUCKING at all to you...
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Hey it's A&H company, he could deal with a customer how he wants. I would do the same for a customer, cause I don't really need any more pain in the ass.

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Hey I know, all im saying is there is certiain level of professionalism that should be kept. We all have "pain in the ass" clients, some just handle it differently. Thats all
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hey fuck you A & H....

I really don't even think you remember who i am... i'm in nebraska remember....

Here's the full text of ALL communication between me and him within the last 2 months!

http://www.nebraskacoeds.com/gfy/tgpdevil.txt


Everybody can make their own opinions on this... Including AaronM....

I did nothing FUCKING at all to you...
Trust me, I know exactly who you are.
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The problem is that some of you fucking jackasses feel like the "customer is always right". That is horseshit. I am not Wal-Mart. I do not need money from selling scripts. This is not my main business. I have hundreds of customers that I absolutely like the hell out of. 99% of them are outstanding. I have numerous customers that have actually become good friends. Once in a while there comes someone who pisses me off and I say what's on my mind. Sorry that offends some of you. If you are one of those that disagrees with me, take your money elsewhere. I don't want it or need it.

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the ONLY thing changed is all server info was edited to "****"
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