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Old 12-09-2003, 10:30 PM   #51
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Old 12-09-2003, 10:33 PM   #52
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Old 12-09-2003, 11:39 PM   #53
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Why is there pride in this?

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Maybe I'm old fashioned, but I love women. I don't understand the compulsion to degrade them.
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Old 12-09-2003, 11:58 PM   #54
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Old 12-10-2003, 12:12 AM   #55
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Old 12-10-2003, 12:16 AM   #56
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Agreed.

Maybe I'm old fashioned, but I love women. I don't understand the compulsion to degrade them.
It's disgusting. I treat it the with the same regard I would a bigot or a racist.

Sales text is one thing - hell, my wife types up most of the stuff for her site - cum loving slut, blah, blah, blah. But here on GFY you see the other, real side of it all too often. From-the-hip degradation - sometimes patently untrue and said SOLEY to make a degrading statement.

In essence, some guys who obviously hate women.

This is the type of behaviour we see with occassional SURFERS. I guess some of those guys decided to become 'webmasters.'

I note it every time I see it, and if I know about it - I don't do business with those who act this way. One content provider, in fact, on this very thread, will never get a dime from me.


Why? Because it says a lot about the person - and everything it says is ugly.

Oh, and as a note - some might think my view is in the minority - it isn't. If you are on GFY to do business, you might think twice before breaking out the 'ugly, fat, stupid , ho' yadda yadda comments. You might be surprised at the people who write you off for that kind of shit and simply won't be interested in dealing with you.
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Old 12-10-2003, 12:43 AM   #57
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It's disgusting. I treat it the with the same regard I would a bigot or a racist.

Sales text is one thing - hell, my wife types up most of the stuff for her site - cum loving slut, blah, blah, blah. But here on GFY you see the other, real side of it all too often. From-the-hip degradation - sometimes patently untrue and said SOLEY to make a degrading statement.

In essence, some guys who obviously hate women.

This is the type of behaviour we see with occassional SURFERS. I guess some of those guys decided to become 'webmasters.'

I note it every time I see it, and if I know about it - I don't do business with those who act this way. One content provider, in fact, on this very thread, will never get a dime from me.


Why? Because it says a lot about the person - and everything it says is ugly.

Oh, and as a note - some might think my view is in the minority - it isn't. If you are on GFY to do business, you might think twice before breaking out the 'ugly, fat, stupid , ho' yadda yadda comments. You might be surprised at the people who write you off for that kind of shit and simply won't be interested in dealing with you.

Thank you codymc12 for articulating the BUSINESS aspect of this. You are absolutely correct. Some of us here are business people. We actually do this for a living. We spend $ with other vendors, content providers, designers, etc. etc.

I am not going to say anything negative about the original poster.

But since I feel strongly about this subject I'll just get this off my chest.

Kids, you can get any human being to do ANYTHING if you give them something (usually $).

The models that webmasters shoot (mostly young women) are someone's daughter, someone's sister, perhaps even someone's mother. Sure this all looks really cool to some of you. A young woman allows someone to deface her body and then it is displayed gratuitously in a public forum so everyone can comment on her physical features.

Well, I'm here tonight to stand up for this young woman, a young woman that probably 99.9% of you will never know. When circumstances force a girl to do a stunt like this you end up stealing something from her soul. Something far more valuable than the few hundred dollars (or whatever she was given) to indulge your whim. These images will take on a life of their own. She can never take them back.

You've captured her in her physical prime and defaced her, and what you have done will affect her for the rest of her life.

Sorry, but it ain't cool. Nothing about it is cool.
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Old 12-10-2003, 01:29 AM   #58
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Thank you codymc12 for articulating the BUSINESS aspect of this. You are absolutely correct. Some of us here are business people. We actually do this for a living. We spend $ with other vendors, content providers, designers, etc. etc.

I am not going to say anything negative about the original poster.

But since I feel strongly about this subject I'll just get this off my chest.

Kids, you can get any human being to do ANYTHING if you give them something (usually $).

The models that webmasters shoot (mostly young women) are someone's daughter, someone's sister, perhaps even someone's mother. Sure this all looks really cool to some of you. A young woman allows someone to deface her body and then it is displayed gratuitously in a public forum so everyone can comment on her physical features.

Well, I'm here tonight to stand up for this young woman, a young woman that probably 99.9% of you will never know. When circumstances force a girl to do a stunt like this you end up stealing something from her soul. Something far more valuable than the few hundred dollars (or whatever she was given) to indulge your whim. These images will take on a life of their own. She can never take them back.

You've captured her in her physical prime and defaced her, and what you have done will affect her for the rest of her life.

Sorry, but it ain't cool. Nothing about it is cool.
I have to reply before heading for bed. I want to make it clear that I respect your view. And I understand where you are coming from.

I personally have no huge problem with the pics. If they were her CHOICE, then my view is, she engaged in a consensual act, that hopefully she thought was fun, and she won't regret. That is her choice. I can't see her as a victim - if I could, I couldn't make a living running adult sites.

My problem is the off hand degradation of her. How she's ugly, fat, etc, etc. She's obviously none of these things.

She decided to have some fun and entertain us. Some repaid her by insulting her.

I have no problem with women getting naked, nasty, and covered in cum. I have no problem with them revelling in hardcore, slutty sex.

I have a huge problem with the double standard of people feeling like they can shit on them because they are uninhibited, while it is that lack of inhibition that supports us all.

Night.
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Old 12-10-2003, 01:33 AM   #59
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Old 12-10-2003, 01:40 AM   #60
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Old 12-10-2003, 01:46 AM   #61
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Old 12-10-2003, 01:49 AM   #62
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Old 12-10-2003, 02:22 PM   #63
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It's disgusting. I treat it the with the same regard I would a bigot or a racist.

Sales text is one thing - hell, my wife types up most of the stuff for her site - cum loving slut, blah, blah, blah. But here on GFY you see the other, real side of it all too often. From-the-hip degradation - sometimes patently untrue and said SOLEY to make a degrading statement.

In essence, some guys who obviously hate women.

This is the type of behaviour we see with occassional SURFERS. I guess some of those guys decided to become 'webmasters.'

I note it every time I see it, and if I know about it - I don't do business with those who act this way. One content provider, in fact, on this very thread, will never get a dime from me.


Why? Because it says a lot about the person - and everything it says is ugly.

Oh, and as a note - some might think my view is in the minority - it isn't. If you are on GFY to do business, you might think twice before breaking out the 'ugly, fat, stupid , ho' yadda yadda comments. You might be surprised at the people who write you off for that kind of shit and simply won't be interested in dealing with you.
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Old 12-10-2003, 02:23 PM   #64
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Thank you codymc12 for articulating the BUSINESS aspect of this. You are absolutely correct. Some of us here are business people. We actually do this for a living. We spend $ with other vendors, content providers, designers, etc. etc.

I am not going to say anything negative about the original poster.

But since I feel strongly about this subject I'll just get this off my chest.

Kids, you can get any human being to do ANYTHING if you give them something (usually $).

The models that webmasters shoot (mostly young women) are someone's daughter, someone's sister, perhaps even someone's mother. Sure this all looks really cool to some of you. A young woman allows someone to deface her body and then it is displayed gratuitously in a public forum so everyone can comment on her physical features.

Well, I'm here tonight to stand up for this young woman, a young woman that probably 99.9% of you will never know. When circumstances force a girl to do a stunt like this you end up stealing something from her soul. Something far more valuable than the few hundred dollars (or whatever she was given) to indulge your whim. These images will take on a life of their own. She can never take them back.

You've captured her in her physical prime and defaced her, and what you have done will affect her for the rest of her life.

Sorry, but it ain't cool. Nothing about it is cool.
Thanks for posting
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Old 12-10-2003, 02:32 PM   #65
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ok, i think i get this, and now i don't feel quite so bad about it.


Dugmor is a very savvy marketer---i see the page views on this thread.

Probably the gal has some sort of % deal on some website we will see soon.

So she's in on it, and helps create a "controversial" marketing GFY thread to promote this to potential affiliates.

and Dugmor bumps his own thread in a nice way.

clever, very fuckin' clever.

touche'
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