PIBCash's Response.

[chodadog]

Yes yes, i know what you're thinking. Oh for fuck's sake, another PIBCash thread. But i think this minor oversight on Rconn's part is worth a look at. Not exactly conclusive, but things that make you go <i>hmmmm</i>.

This was taken from the PIB board:

http://hahahahahahahahaha.com/showth...threadid=12831

The former employee had taken it upon themselves to copy the html code from the admin area before their dismissal. This made it very easy to add columns to the page and make it appear that there maybe something shitty going on with our reporting.

Now i'm sure you're thinking, so fucking what. He was obviously going to say something like that. But take note of "add columns." In PIB's defence, he showed a screenshot of how easy it would be to edit the html and make a realistic looking screenshot.

Here's the original image posted by jimmy:
<A HREF="http://www.chodadog.com/pibcash/fullscreenie.jpg" target="_blank"><IMG SRC=http://www.chodadog.com/pibcash/fullscreenie1.jpg></a>

And the image posted by Rconn to show how easy it was to change the html.
<A HREF="http://www.chodadog.com/pibcash/trueimage.jpg" target="_blank"><IMG SRC=http://www.chodadog.com/pibcash/trueimage1.jpg></a>

In case you still haven't noticed what i noticed, check out the number of columns in each. Didn't Rconn say that columns were added in the screenshot that jimmy had posted? Then why is it that his example (named "trueimage.jpg") has the same number of columns (14)? Wouldn't you expect to see the "true" number of columns with true column headings, or is it just me? Wouldn't the image have been more convincing if it had less columns, to further the point that columns had been added? To me, it's minor, but rather telling. Of course, like i already said.. it's hardly conclusive proof. Draw your own conclusions.

[JasonB]

No. It just looks like he's proving a point... that something like that is super easy to fake. ...doesnt matter how many columns you make.

[Furious_Male]

In which case he should just post a screen shot of the exact same time period. That would prove a hell of a lot more of a point then this.

[serious]

Originally posted by JasonB
No. It just looks like he's proving a point... that something like that is super easy to fake. ...doesnt matter how many columns you make.

but Rconn would have taken the real html from the admin page and edited it to what you see

[webgurl]

Looks like we have a new age sherlock holmes in the house , anymore detectives ?

[chodadog]

Originally posted by JasonB
No. It just looks like he's proving a point... that something like that is super easy to fake. ...doesnt matter how many columns you make.

The point would have been made better with a differnent number of columns, no?

[Indeed]

Originally posted by webgurl
Looks like we have a new age sherlock holmes in the house , anymore detectives ?

[jennym]

count again

[JSA Matt]

Originally posted by jennym
count again

This thread is stupid.

[Oracle Porn]

[chodadog]

Originally posted by jennym
count again

bwahahahah

[kenny]

Well how come in that very same thread there are affilates complaining about not being able to access certain aspects of their stats all of a sudden?

[Why]

Originally posted by Furious_Male
In which case he should just post a screen shot of the exact same time period. That would prove a hell of a lot more of a point then this.

amen!

[Furious_Male]

Originally posted by chodadog


The point would have been made better with a differnent number of columns, no?

The hell with the columns. If Pib claims its a fake why dont they post the "actual" stats from that exact same time period. No need to play with photo shop. Show the actual stats.

[serious]

bah thats the last time i take your word for anything

[{fusion}]

someone would have to be extremely pissed off if they were to fake stats and post in open.

[Dirty F]

They now deleted their own thread on their board where they posted that same sample pic.

[JSA Matt]

Originally posted by Battuss
They now deleted their own thread on their board where they posted that same sample pic.

I just saw that.. quick quick, move to Plan B!

[Aquaman]

Originally posted by Furious_Male
In which case he should just post a screen shot of the exact same time period. That would prove a hell of a lot more of a point then this.

So true!

[Furious_Male]

They have to try a plan B because there first response just didnt make sense.

I look at it this way. If someone took a photo of you and photo shopped it so you were fucking a goat or something wouldnt your first reaction be to post the actual image. Or in Pibs cash situation a screen shot of that same periods actual stats. You wouldnt change the goat to a cow and put that up as proof it wasnt real.

Whoever is getting paid for damage control better kick it up a notch over there.

[JSA Matt]

Originally posted by Furious_Male
They have to try a plan B because there first response just didnt make sense.

I look at it this way. If someone took a photo of you and photo shopped it so you were fucking a goat or something wouldnt your first reaction be to post the actual image. Or in Pibs cash situation a screen shot of that same periods actual stats. You wouldnt change the goat to a cow and put that up as proof it wasnt real.

Whoever is getting paid for damage control better kick it up a notch over there.

Their programmer is on it.

[chodadog]

It's actually quite frightening that only a couple of people who have replied have actually noticed the fact that one has 14 and the other has 16. This is what happens in a witch hunt. Everyone gets caught up with the evidence and start assuming things.

Isn't that interesting.

I ain't going on either side for this one. I always like to see both sides of the story first. But oh i do love the drama.

[Shoplifter]

Originally posted by Furious_Male


The hell with the columns. If Pib claims its a fake why dont they post the "actual" stats from that exact same time period. No need to play with photo shop. Show the actual stats.

This is not good enough either. It would take a 3rd party audit at this point to clear them of suspicion.

[dotwind]

I would like to point something watch bwt the two different pictures in the url box where it says http://www.pibcash.com/..... the small icon of internet explorer page is there while in the second one where the url is changed to http://www.gofuckyourslef.com the icon doesn't appear try that on your IE if the icon is there then it's the url of the page that is showing otherwise it wouldn't show ..

DISCLAIMER: I in now way support any of the ideas stated in this thread or any other about pibcash just was pointing what i saw

[Furious_Male]

Originally posted by Shoplifter


This is not good enough either. It would take a 3rd party audit at this point to clear them of suspicion.

I agree but it sure would look better on there part doing that over a screen shot featuring candles, wood, and cars.

[CDSmith]

If you're truly innocent, I would think that it would look best if you stopped "handling" the problem and just come out publicly and aggressively and DEAL with the situation. I would be hiring lawyers, and seeking an impartial auditor to CLEAR THE COMPANY NAME for fuck sakes.


If you're truly guilty, you will try to brush it off by lame attempts to discredit your accusers by posting more altered screenshots. I love giving people the benefit of the doubt, but I want to see some effort, and some honest outrage if the allegations made are truly false.


Otherwise, you get what you fucking deserve.

[4Pics]

Originally posted by dotwind
I would like to point something watch bwt the two different pictures in the url box where it says http://www.pibcash.com/..... the small icon of internet explorer page is there while in the second one where the url is changed to http://www.gofuckyourslef.com the icon doesn't appear try that on your IE if the icon is there then it's the url of the page that is showing otherwise it wouldn't show ..

DISCLAIMER: I in now way support any of the ideas stated in this thread or any other about pibcash just was pointing what i saw

Also notice the one picture you can click back in, like you clicked something to display the stats, while the other one is just a black html page like they made the page.

[beemk]

nice find matlock

[pussyluver]

Originally posted by Furious_Male


The hell with the columns. If Pib claims its a fake why dont they post the "actual" stats from that exact same time period. No need to play with photo shop. Show the actual stats.

PIB's books are their private business. Given that, in light of the concerns regarding shaving in the industry, they could gain a ton of points for publishing the real numbers for the period in question.

If someone "cooked" the html or did the photoshop deed, they could be so owned.

Wonder if the FTC is keeping up with all of this?

[Paul Markham]

What I have not seen from anyone is how well did they convert?

Did they pay out more than others even with the possibility of shaving or did they do worse?

[HS-Trixxxia]

The reason for the blocking of the stats & the deleting of the posts is because his lawyer must have finally returned his call and told him it was a NO-NO!!!!

[funkmaster]

Originally posted by charly
What I have not seen from anyone is how well did they convert?

Did they pay out more than others even with the possibility of shaving or did they do worse?

.. if you'd get raped up the ass by a couple different guys, could you actually tell me which one did you best ??

[basschick]

good call

Originally posted by dotwind
I would like to point something watch bwt the two different pictures in the url box where it says http://www.pibcash.com/..... the small icon of internet explorer page is there while in the second one where the url is changed to http://www.gofuckyourslef.com the icon doesn't appear try that on your IE if the icon is there then it's the url of the page that is showing otherwise it wouldn't show ..

DISCLAIMER: I in now way support any of the ideas stated in this thread or any other about pibcash just was pointing what i saw

[Rich]

This is funny. People saying this Rconn guy has to post his real stats for that period. Why, to satisfy the GFY drama sharks? lol

This is nothing like the dollar4all situation where we all logged in to their site and saw it ourselves. (No matter how bad I wish it was, remember how fun that was?) I'll wager he's like most programs, makes 95% of his money from his top 5% of affiliates, and I doubt any of them will leave over Jimmy3way's screenshot.

[ThEJoKeR]

Interesting, So if this is in fact the real stats and they are shaving, Then the previous employees would have to have known all along there was shaving going on and chose not to tell there friends or webmasters if they was benefitting from it as well.

Instead they wait until they get fired or let go and then take part in this revenge scheme to show stats of PibCash shaving.

So, this tells me one thing EVERYONE who worked there is not as honest as they let on. including the ones who were the previous employees.

So to me they all are guilty of shaving. Pretty fucking sad. things are good when there good until someone pisses in your oatmeal.

[Trax]

THOSE FUCKERS

[NoCarrier]

Originally posted by ThEJoKeR
Interesting, So if this is in fact the real stats and they are shaving, Then the previous employees would have to have known all along there was shaving going on and chose not to tell there friends or webmasters if they was benefitting from it as well.

Instead they wait until they get fired or let go and then take part in this revenge scheme to show stats of PibCash shaving.

So, this tells me one thing EVERYONE who worked there is not as honest as they let on. including the ones who were the previous employees.

So to me they all are guilty of shaving. Pretty fucking sad. things are good when there good until someone pisses in your oatmeal.

Unless they have a non-disclosure agreement where you have to stfu when you leave the company.

[Rich]

Originally posted by ThEJoKeR
Interesting, So if this is in fact the real stats and they are shaving, Then the previous employees would have to have known all along there was shaving going on and chose not to tell there friends or webmasters if they was benefitting from it as well.

Instead they wait until they get fired or let go and then take part in this revenge scheme to show stats of PibCash shaving.

So, this tells me one thing EVERYONE who worked there is not as honest as they let on. including the ones who were the previous employees.

So to me they all are guilty of shaving. Pretty fucking sad. things are good when there good until someone pisses in your oatmeal.

Good call there. Which employee(s) left them recently? You're right, this doesn't do anything to make them look good. If it's true, they're all crooks IMO.

[SleazyDream]

Originally posted by charly
What I have not seen from anyone is how well did they convert?

Did they pay out more than others even with the possibility of shaving or did they do worse?

excellent point

[HS-Trixxxia]

Originally posted by dotwind
I would like to point something watch bwt the two different pictures in the url box where it says http://www.pibcash.com/..... the small icon of internet explorer page is there while in the second one where the url is changed to http://www.gofuckyourslef.com the icon doesn't appear try that on your IE if the icon is there then it's the url of the page that is showing otherwise it wouldn't show ..

DISCLAIMER: I in now way support any of the ideas stated in this thread or any other about pibcash just was pointing what i saw

If you paste the url you won't get the icon.
I don't think that was photoshopped.

[StuartD]

Originally posted by charly
What I have not seen from anyone is how well did they convert?

Did they pay out more than others even with the possibility of shaving or did they do worse?

Well, I never promoted them personally, so I only offer hear say from friends whom have... but their stories seem to be the same from person to person...

conversions would be good for the first little while and then all of a sudden one day, the conversions would just die out almost completely. It would be as if someone clicked an off switch becuase they'd go from consistant average of sales day by day for weeks and then suddenly.... nothing.

That's what I've heard... take it or leave it.

[ThEJoKeR]

Originally posted by NoCarrier


Unless they have a non-disclosure agreement where you have to stfu when you leave the company.

True, But who actually would follow that if they felt fucked over enough?
This industry is pretty fucked up, alot of shit goes on behind the scenes that is never discussed on the boards. So I don't think in all hoesty that, that disclosure does much good when someone feels fucked over.

[Furious_Male]

Originally posted by Rich
This is funny. People saying this Rconn guy has to post his real stats for that period. Why, to satisfy the GFY drama sharks? lol

This is nothing like the dollar4all situation where we all logged in to their site and saw it ourselves. (No matter how bad I wish it was, remember how fun that was?) I'll wager he's like most programs, makes 95% of his money from his top 5% of affiliates, and I doubt any of them will leave over Jimmy3way's screenshot.

No one says he HAS to post them. It would simply make more sense then the bullshit they did post. They don't have to do anything. GFY drama or not its spreading across many boards and it posting the stats from that period would just be damage control.

This may just die like a lot of other issues do but if I am not mistaken there is more then 1 screen shot and now affiliates with IDs listed are checking there checks etc. If this goes any further the top 5% may start to get nervous. They need to wonder if they are getting shaved and have to worry about Pib closing there doors leaving them out to dry.

[NoCarrier]

Originally posted by ThEJoKeR


True, But who actually would follow that if they felt fucked over enough?
This industry is pretty fucked up, alot of shit goes on behind the scenes that is never discussed on the boards. So I don't think in all hoesty that, that disclosure does much good when someone feels fucked over.

Why? Because you they easily sue your for giving confidential information about the company. If you signed the non-disclosure agreement. You are fucked. It does not matter if the company was selling illegal stuff or whatever. You still breached the agreement.

[Dildozer]

hey anyone noticed the typo domain www.gofuckyourslef.com goes to quickbuck.com?

kinda lame

[Brad-Wishing]

Originally posted by Rich
This is funny. People saying this Rconn guy has to post his real stats for that period. Why, to satisfy the GFY drama sharks? lol

This is nothing like the dollar4all situation where we all logged in to their site and saw it ourselves. (No matter how bad I wish it was, remember how fun that was?) I'll wager he's like most programs, makes 95% of his money from his top 5% of affiliates, and I doubt any of them will leave over Jimmy3way's screenshot.

He speaks truth.

[Weppel]

I like the first screenshot..

Joins - Joins Shown
333 - 168

That's fucking shaving at 50%

[dotwind]

Originally posted by Trixxxia


If you paste the url you won't get the icon.
I don't think that was photoshopped.

I am not saying it was photoshoped if the icon is showing that means that the url is real. and that page is hosted on their server with php extension .. so according to what they are saying the guy went a created a full script to show different row and shit .. come on give me a break find something better

[dotwind]

Originally posted by Weppel
I like the first screenshot..

Joins - Joins Shown
333 - 168

That's fucking shaving at 50%

you know shaving someone that is making more that 5K a month isn't as bad as shaving the guy that try to put couple of checks togheter to pay rent .. that's fucked

[twistyneck]

Originally posted by NoCarrier


Why? Because you they easily sue your for giving confidential information about the company. If you signed the non-disclosure agreement. You are fucked. It does not matter if the company was selling illegal stuff or whatever. You still breached the agreement.

You can't be held to an agreement that requires you to remain silent about illegal activities.