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nap 12-01-2003 03:54 PM

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Originally posted by Sly_RJ

You read the police reports?

We're talking about the media and activist groups here. Nobody cares if a white guy gets killed by a white guy. Do you care? I sure as hell don't. People care about black guys getting killed by white guys because it creates mass controversy. The media, the activist groups, NAACP, all have something to gain by creating a fuss over a black guy getting shot.

What's there to gain by creating a fuss about a white guy getting shot? He's just another junkie.

i can't think of one and you didn't answer the question i presented. i doubt that EVERY single white guy being beaten/killed by cops is being swept under the rug.

Basic_man 12-01-2003 03:57 PM

Wow! Awesome how this guy is fat! haha

rooster 12-01-2003 03:57 PM

a junkie is a junkie. if its a white guy nobody cares. if its a black guy they are turned into a martyr by race baiters.


Even when its a hispanic nobody cares. Awhile back there was a case of actual police abuse against a mexican guy, and nobody even cared. If it had been a black, it would have caused riots.

Race is a money making industry in this country

jennym 12-01-2003 03:58 PM

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Originally posted by ChumpChange


once if you're whole life...wow:)



101 dead pigs

Maybe it is only once in my life because I don't have a bunch of thugged out, fucked up, thief ass punks for friends.

ChumpChange 12-01-2003 04:02 PM

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Originally posted by nap

dude it's no use it's like beating a dead horse..they grew up as the pigs are who they can turn to when theings go wrong and they(police) can do no wrong trust me homie i know about how these pigs are like an Occupied Army...it's time to take it back to the Black Panther days to let these piggies know this shit won't fly

instead beefing over turf start protecting the homefront..




:glugglug

jennym 12-01-2003 04:05 PM

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Originally posted by ChumpChange



dude it's no use it's like beating a dead horse..they grew up as the pigs are who they can turn to when theings go wrong and they(police) can do no wrong trust me homie i know about how these pigs are like an Occupied Army...it's time to take it back to the Black Panther days to let these piggies know this shit won't fly

instead beefing over turf start protecting the homefront..




:glugglug

Wow, you are some kind of genius aren't you?

ChumpChange 12-01-2003 04:06 PM

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Originally posted by jennym


Maybe it is only once in my life because I don't have a bunch of thugged out, fucked up, thief ass punks for friends.

Diallo,

Luima just two out of many that wasn't 'thugged out, fucked up, thief ass punks' but i like your eurocentric thinking:Graucho that shit turns me on

Theo 12-01-2003 04:09 PM

FUCK THE POLICE (WOMEN)

jennym 12-01-2003 04:12 PM

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Originally posted by ChumpChange


Diallo,

Luima just two out of many that wasn't 'thugged out, fucked up, thief ass punks' but i like your eurocentric thinking:Graucho that shit turns me on

I was talking about people that I knew personally! As I said before, I don't deny for one minute that there are racist cops out there. I just don't think this is one of those times. Plus, like I said, and other people have said, white people getting beat up by cops just doesn't make the news.

ChumpChange 12-01-2003 04:19 PM

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Originally posted by jennym


I was talking about people that I knew personally! As I said before, I don't deny for one minute that there are racist cops out there. I just don't think this is one of those times. Plus, like I said, and other people have said, white people getting beat up by cops just doesn't make the news.

i know of blacks that have gotten ass whupped and killed by the poilce that NEVER made the news...so where y'all info come from


shit when rodney king happen that was like news for the 'average' white citzen so you only named one if your WHOLE life no else named none..so in the words of jigga

'Well - we don't believe you, you need more people'
:1orglaugh

seven 12-01-2003 04:22 PM

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Originally posted by Sly_RJ
Nobody cares if a white guy gets killed by a white guy.
A white guy did? The same way? url? :Graucho

Greg B 12-01-2003 04:25 PM

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Originally posted by tootie


I'd rather die than be the cause of someone else's death. I've even told my husband that if I'm ever murdered to ask the DA NOT to consider the death penalty on my behalf.

Tootie, look at it this way...

EVERY animal in the world would rather kill than be killed. Sometimes killing the bad guy SAVES lots of people who can't fight back because they're smaller and weaker or don't know the bad guy is lurking in the shadows.

jennym 12-01-2003 04:27 PM

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Originally posted by ChumpChange


i know of blacks that have gotten ass whupped and killed by the poilce that NEVER made the news...so where y'all info come from


shit when rodney king happen that was like news for the 'average' white citzen so you only named one if your WHOLE life no else named none..so in the words of jigga

'Well - we don't believe you, you need more people'
:1orglaugh

I don't mind having an intelligent debate (actually I enjoy it). But you are just an ignorant fool, so see ya'!

JSA Matt 12-01-2003 04:35 PM

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Originally posted by Mystery Man
I find it funny that there is a channel called Black Entertainment TV or some shit when I visited the US. If the white folks Created a Channel called White Entertainment TV

All hell would be lose.

Just like saying Black Power is pride in your heritage yet White Power is racist, go figure :)

ChumpChange 12-01-2003 04:39 PM

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Originally posted by JSA Matt


Just like saying Black Power is pride in your heritage yet White Power is racist, go figure :)

maybe the person who says this has swastika in their vicnity but then agian what do i know:winkwink:

ronbotx 12-01-2003 04:40 PM

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Originally posted by skillfull
this is clearly police abuse
they still giving him a couple of hits AFTER he was on the floor and unable to continue to fight anyway
send thoses fuckers in jail :321GFY

Hmmm...

Hit a police officer in face first
Resisting arrest when they tried to cuff him
Previously Arrested for Cocaine posssesion and parole violation
Enlarged heart and grossly overweight

AND...... via FNC

Autoposy indicated coke and PCP in bloodstream.


NOT CLEARLY POLICE ABUSE

hornycash 12-01-2003 04:42 PM

damn, usa are fucked up :glugglug

evilregis 12-01-2003 04:57 PM

Of course cops can be racist. So can your child's teacher. So could your parents be. Racism is, sadly, a fact of life in ANY area of life.

That said, I have a few buddies that are cops in different cities, and the shit I hear about them dealing with is unreal. They've had shit pulled on them, they've been swung at, etc. Bottom line, as soon as they see a weapon, or someone getting aggressive with them? It's time to take that piece of shit DOWN any way you can and to (pay attention here) MAKE SURE HE STAYS DOWN. That is the key. So ya, you PEPPER SPRAY them when they're down to a) avoid getting it in your eyes, and b) to keep them busy worrying about their eyes instead of how to get back up and cause more shit.

Nathaniel Jones is a fat fucking piece of shit. A morbidly obese man, high on coke and PCP, goes nuts and starts a fight with a couple cops. His heart, barely able to sustain him while he's sedintary, then tries to get him through a scuffle like that? Not going to happen. He's a piece of shit that paid the consequences for his actions. It's not the cops fault. It is his fault entirely and anyone who supports him or his family in going after these cops is just as big an asshole.

I don't live in a city with a large black population, but the black friends that I do have are more pissed off over these "racist cop kills black male" stories than anyone I know is. It's bullshit.

Cops spend 99% of their time dealing with 1% of the population. Their lives are in danger every day and as far as I see it, they should have every right to defend themselves that we have, and then some. There are ppl out there who just get kicks out of fucking with cops.

Sorry for the long-windedness.

CIN 12-01-2003 05:42 PM

Please, no flame wars this time...

arial 12-01-2003 05:57 PM

Anyone who attacks a cop knows they're gona get their ass beat, black, white, brown, blue, purple... Just take a look at this dude:

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/dmilam1.html

sumphatpimp 12-01-2003 06:55 PM

http://www.whitecastle.com/_assets/i...mburger_lg.jpg

thats what upset the dude

1mx 12-01-2003 07:07 PM

Holy Crap that guy put up a fight. I am at least 100lbs over weight I get short of breath walking to the fucking bathroom.

Big Nath 12-01-2003 07:12 PM

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Originally posted by tootie
But they killed him. He didn't take a knife or gun to them, he just took a few swings at the officers. I don't think he deserved to die. If he punches a cop, he gets punched. If he tries to kill a cop and they kill him, then THAT is necessary force. But it didn't look to me like he was trying to kill the cops. He didn't even have a weapon.
And that is about the only comment that actually defines necesswary force.. Fists uses fists. Knife they should use a gun, gun they use a gun.

Beating the shit out of a man who is pinned to the ground and repeatedly beating him for 5 mins because he probably couldnt get his hands behind his back, is just sraight up WRONG !!

Apart from the fact the guy didnt even really hit the cop.. the cop saw it coming and reacted. he actually only really got the cop in a head lock.

Excessive force is blatant there and i hope the cop looses his job.

he would in australia

my :2 cents:

Nath

nap 12-01-2003 07:13 PM

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Originally posted by jennym


As I said earlier, it just happened to someone I know. Again, he was asking for it as well. The difference is, the news didn't cover it, because he wasn't black.

only once? ask me how many blacks i've seen beaten with my own eyes.

nap 12-01-2003 07:14 PM

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Originally posted by Mystery Man
I find it funny that there is a channel called Black Entertainment TV or some shit when I visited the US. If the white folks Created a Channel called White Entertainment TV

All hell would be lose.

abc, cbs, cnbc, etc etc. you have WET it's just not called it:thumbsup

nap 12-01-2003 07:17 PM

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Originally posted by Big Nath


And that is about the only comment that actually defines necesswary force.. Fists uses fists. Knife they should use a gun, gun they use a gun.

Beating the shit out of a man who is pinned to the ground and repeatedly beating him for 5 mins because he probably couldnt get his hands behind his back, is just sraight up WRONG !!

Apart from the fact the guy didnt even really hit the cop.. the cop saw it coming and reacted. he actually only really got the cop in a head lock.

Excessive force is blatant there and i hope the cop looses his job.

he would in australia

my :2 cents:

Nath

:thumbsup

CIN 12-01-2003 07:19 PM

I see. :question

jennym 12-01-2003 07:54 PM

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Originally posted by Big Nath

And that is about the only comment that actually defines necesswary force.. Fists uses fists. Knife they should use a gun, gun they use a gun.

Bullshit! A cop should not have to fight fist to fist with some coked up, 400lb thug!

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Beating the shit out of a man who is pinned to the ground and repeatedly beating him for 5 mins because he probably couldnt get his hands behind his back, is just sraight up WRONG !!
What damn video were you watching?

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Apart from the fact the guy didnt even really hit the cop.. the cop saw it coming and reacted. he actually only really got the cop in a head lock.

How do you know? This part was out of view of the camera?

Where is all this "brotherly love" when your brothers are out on the streets killing each other every day over turf wars and tennis shoes?

I agree there are bad cops doing bad things to black men, but a black man's worst enemy these days is another black man. Why doesn't Jesse Jackson rant about all of them? Because if he did, then he wouldn't even have enough time left in the day to take a piss!

SpacemanSpiff 12-01-2003 08:03 PM

I would last about 1 day as a cop. There's no fucking way in hell I would look at some 400 pound, coked out, cracked up fuck and say to myself "well, he's only using his fists, so to be fair, i'll only use my fists." I'd 44 that piece of shit to death on the spot and the go grab a donut.

phogirl69 12-01-2003 08:03 PM

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Originally posted by boneprone
You know damn well if he were White or Asian he would not have been beaten like that.
About the Asian part, that is not true.
A lot of cops mistreat Asians too, especially in Socal where's there's lots of asian gangbangers, a lot of cops automatically think all asians are gangsters too. My ex bf claimed he got handled "rough and slapped around" by people who were interrogating him and taping it when he was arrested. It's true, he did do something wrong, but I think he said they were even threatening him to get a confession.

nap 12-01-2003 08:06 PM

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Originally posted by jennym




I agree there are bad cops doing bad things to black men, but a black man's worst enemy these days is another black man. Why doesn't Jesse Jackson rant about all of them? Because if he did, then he wouldn't even have enough time left in the day to take a piss!

speaking as a black man my biggest problem is not another black man. thanks for clearing that up for us black men since you speak for us now

jennym 12-01-2003 08:18 PM

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Originally posted by nap


speaking as a black man my biggest problem is not another black man. thanks for clearing that up for us black men since you speak for us now

I didn't mean that offensively at all! I don't think other black men are your biggest "problem". Racism must be a TERRIBLE fucking thing to go through. I hate racist assholes. I am just saying as a black man, you are more likely to be beat or killed by another black man than a cop.

Living For Today 12-01-2003 08:31 PM

i hate the pigs and normally in situations like those the pigs are fucking hahahahas and abuse their power.

but man wtf. that nigga was out of control! if i had a hahahaha that heavy tryin to beat the fuck out of me he wouldnt be just getting prodded with the baton hed be getting wacked over the fuckin head till he was knocked out.

nap 12-01-2003 08:40 PM

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Originally posted by jennym


I didn't mean that offensively at all! I don't think other black men are your biggest "problem". Racism must be a TERRIBLE fucking thing to go through. I hate racist assholes. I am just saying as a black man, you are more likely to be beat or killed by another black man than a cop.

i walk by people who the majority of this board would call thugs. i hang out with people who would be considered thugs. i have never had a problem with another black male. cops on the other hand are a different story. i'm AFRAID of the police. i have done nothing wrong, have no warrants, only one speeding ticket on my drivers record yet i'm AFRAID of the police and what they could do to me. "he was resisting arrest" is all a group of white cops has to say and i'm not only beaten to a pulp but convicted of resisting arrest, assualt on an officer and whatever else trumped up charges. the likely hood of me being attacked by a black male is very slim when compared to being beaten/framed by a cop:2 cents:

nap 12-01-2003 08:46 PM

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Originally posted by jennym


I didn't mean that offensively at all! I don't think other black men are your biggest "problem". Racism must be a TERRIBLE fucking thing to go through. I hate racist assholes. I am just saying as a black man, you are more likely to be beat or killed by another black man than a cop.

FYI i'm still looked at as a thug yet i have almost completed my undergrad degree and plan on going to grad school here in the near future. never have i been in trouble with the law but i gaurantee if that was me and they claimed i was doped up on something so i was beaten for resisting arrest america would do what it does everytime this happens: "oh thats terrible" or "he is resisting every time he tries to cover up his head while being beaten with a lead pipe so it was justified" and eventually forget that it even happend. let this shit happen to a suburban white kid from a group of black cops and i bet not only will they go to prison but probably lynched as well.

p.s. this guy swung at a cop, he deserved his ass beat to a fucking pulp but not to death. at one point you can see that they guy is down and isn't moving, just talking yet you continue to see him get beat. BEAT TO DEATH. not even animals are BEAT TO DEATH. oh yea explain to this guys kid(if he has any) that the cops beat his father to death because he resisted arrest.

DR_PHIL 12-01-2003 08:48 PM

i hate white castle

jennym 12-01-2003 08:50 PM

Living in the south, I am (unfortunately) very aware of the racism you face. My (ex) in-laws are racist. They used to use the "N" word all the time. I told them that if that word was EVER used around my child, then they would no longer be allowed to see her. They know I'm serious, so it does not happen. I am sure you have every reason to fear police, but I also think it influences your judgement in cases like this. I think dirty cops should have their asses stomped, but this isn't one of those cases.

Flynn 12-01-2003 08:51 PM

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Originally posted by xanx


infact the next time some 400lb man starts beating your ass I hope the cops try everything else before using force to get him off you

haha nice

jennym 12-01-2003 08:54 PM

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Originally posted by nap

p.s. this guy swung at a cop, he deserved his ass beat to a fucking pulp but not to death. at one point you can see that they guy is down and isn't moving, just talking yet you continue to see him get beat. BEAT TO DEATH. not even animals are BEAT TO DEATH. oh yea explain to this guys kid(if he has any) that the cops beat his father to death because he resisted arrest.

That was not him talking...it is the cops asking him to stop resisting. I don't think they intentionally beat him to death. I don't even know if the beating caused his death. He was drugged up, and 400 lbs. That fight was probably the most exercise his heart had in years.

SureFire 12-01-2003 09:39 PM

Nap and others,

Honestly where do you get that is racial? A druggy happened to be black and resisted arrest.

While I don?t like the jaded treatment in low income neighborhoods, it is the policeman job and life at stake serving the community. I was pulled over recently in the bad part of the neighborhood because my car fit the description of a crime. Did I give the cops a hard time? Was I scared? No and yes. Because my pocket book was in the trunk, I had to get out of my car and open the trunk to show my identity with guns pointed at me. I did not get any apologizes just a business card that had their superior?s contact information.

Next time it happens to me, I guess I should act up?I might make the news. No thanks.

BTW, I volunteer a lot in the inner city and it is a scary place; no one trusts anyone. Just wish some black males would get involve because the white females are not making a dent with inner city children in my area.

MattO 12-01-2003 09:57 PM

If anybody thinks cops don't treat white folks like this, just ask Ronnie Dobbs how he feels about that.

Odin88 12-01-2003 10:29 PM

Insane! People think White people don't get attacked by police? Grow up. What the fat fuck say in the beginning anyway? It sounded like some racial; 'White boy' or something? Could be wrong though.

Odin88 12-01-2003 10:36 PM

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i walk by people who the majority of this board would call thugs. i hang out with people who would be considered thugs. i have never had a problem with another black male. cops on the other hand are a different story. i'm AFRAID of the police. i have done nothing wrong, have no warrants, only one speeding ticket on my drivers record yet i'm AFRAID of the police and what they could do to me. "he was resisting arrest" is all a group of white cops has to say and i'm not only beaten to a pulp but convicted of resisting arrest, assualt on an officer and whatever else trumped up charges. the likely hood of me being attacked by a black male is very slim when compared to being beaten/framed by a cop
Ofcourse, I know six brotha's who were all framed for murder -lol. How about we get a White kid growing up in a Black neighbourhood? What is the likelihood of heem getting beat up, robbed, picked on etc by Black men? Racism goes both ways you know, so quit crying.

By the way this is what it sounds like to me (could be wrong):

Cop: Just tell me whats going on?

Fat Guy: Scream, Yell 'White Boy' (than attack).

The cops a racist IMO, lock them up.

xxxjay 12-01-2003 11:59 PM

can't blame them

Pleasurepays 12-02-2003 12:24 AM

the police have forward pointing cameras with audio to capture arrests on video. their plan from the beginning was obviously to kill a 400lb black guy by beating him to death and get it on tape because they are racist.

makes sense.

people are fucking retarded sometimes.

racksale 12-02-2003 12:57 AM

It is precisely because of the naivety of certain people that Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, and countless others are laughing all the way to be bank, making truckloads of money by playing the "racism" card with their voter blocks. Yes, there are racist people out there (including some cops) ... but the people that think these cops beat this guy with excessive force, are lost in their own warped world. Because of their narrow-sighted reality, they will gladly accuse anybody of racism for any random reason, and cannot be logically convinced otherwise.

I'm sure that if you think the cops beat him so badly just because he's black, you must also think that we are only targeting muslim nations (in the war on terror) because we are racist towards them. And we're racist towards North Koreans, and Chechens, and Bosnians, and Palestinians, etc. etc. etc..... Give me a break, please, please go read some damn non-fiction books or something to get educated. Start looking at the world from an objective point of view, instead of having an "everybody is against me and I must fight the oppressors to make it in this life" attitude, because that view is going to get you nowhere in life.

Oh yeah, I hope those cops sue the hell out of whoever put them on administrative leave, because all they were doing was their job.

woj 12-02-2003 12:58 AM

150 lbs overweight

Billy-HiRise 12-02-2003 01:10 AM

Very simple reasoning.

He uses he fist, you use your baton.
He uses a knife, you use a gun.

As a police officer you are NOT a punching bag.

I just hope the end result is the right result and public opinion of a bunch of no nut bitches does not sway the people in charge.

nap 12-02-2003 03:50 PM

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Originally posted by rooster
a junkie is a junkie. if its a white guy nobody cares. if its a black guy they are turned into a martyr by race baiters.


Even when its a hispanic nobody cares. Awhile back there was a case of actual police abuse against a mexican guy, and nobody even cared. If it had been a black, it would have caused riots.

Race is a money making industry in this country

yea your right. 400 years + of a money making industry

nap 12-02-2003 03:52 PM

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Originally posted by JSA Matt


Just like saying Black Power is pride in your heritage yet White Power is racist, go figure :)

blacks were trying to enpower themselves while whites were/are trying to keep minotiries down. no need to figure it out now:thumbsup


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