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Dawgy · 12-01-2003, 01:20 PM

when i say GOOD, i mean GOOD.

for a project im working on, in the last week i have looked at dozens of sites, inside and out, and quite frankly they are pure crap. i dont understand how anyone retains members with sites that are:

1) nothing but plugins
2) never updated
3) full of content that isnt what the tour is about
4) full of upsells rather than actual content
5) shitty design and navigation

but then again retention isnt important to most of you. only the upsells are.

if youre a sponsor with sites that actually RETAIN and DONT fuck the surfer over, please hit me up. and dont try and sell me on your program. chances are im already a webmaster/member. just convince me that your sites retain and arent just going to fuck over my surfers.

yah, some of us still care that surfers are happy. but then again some of us have members retaining for more than the trial. novel idea huh?

and now for a rant...

several programs ive checked out may have 20+ paysites, but they all have the same backend. if i join a bear site, i get the same fucking content as if i had joined a twink site. this is especially frustrating for people who join multiple sites.

if i have a link to two sites by the same program on my page, and someone joins both sites (very common for my site/surfers) that surfer has officially been fucked. and they know it, because they arent stupid and can see that its the same content, even the same exact layout. then comes the refund/chargeback, and once again another surfer who will not trust me or join anything i promote.

and the opposite is true - some people only join one kind of site... one niche... ie, if i pay $40 to see 30 year old hairy guys, i dont wanna login and see 18 year old hairless skater boys. but then again, maybe im being too logical.

either way, i think that trying to make EVERY site a megasite is pointless. if youre going to buy every plugin on the planet, dont put them in ALL your sites. put them in the MEGA site. then put twinks in your twink site, bears in your bear site, etc.... most of you offer free access to your other sites for all your members anyway, so just link to the other sites, dont include all the same shit in every site...

and yes ill get bashed for this post/rant, after all, these huge programs MUST be doing something right cuz they pay $40 per trial join and the program owners are all rich. maybe so. but separate out the gay sites from the rest of the program, isolate their stats... im really curious to see if the gay sites would stand on their own AND do so well.

and i dont mean traffic/joins/upsells. we can all do that. i mean retention. are your members really worth $40? $80? $120?

instead of giving a member shitty content and then pushing them to buy something else, why not just give them good content and make them happy so they stick around? a member who rebills at $30 a month for 6 months is worth a lot more than one who cancels 10 minutes after his $2.95 trial starts, then buys an upsell $100 bottle of viagra. why? cuz he will never join another one of your shitty sites again.

*sigh* end rant...

that said, hit me on icq or email or this post if u have sites that retain and wont fuck my surfers over.

CIN · 12-01-2003, 01:21 PM

Please contract HIV. Thank you.

Dawgy · 12-01-2003, 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CIN
Please contract HIV. Thank you.

id rather not fuck your mom, thanks though.

CIN · 12-01-2003, 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dawgy

id rather not fuck your mom, thanks though.

You must refer your request for HIV to an actual AIDS infectee for your contraction to be successful. Thank you, and have a good day, sir.

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BlueFly · 12-01-2003, 02:23 PM

Lightspeed Cash has a few that are worth looking at. I tried promoting a few a while back. They did pretty good, but I just wasn't into it... I still have some galleries listed on google, and still have some hits here and there. All of their sites are very well done, and rebill at a pretty good rate 35% including trials... somewhere around 60% if you remove the canceled trials. I would give them a shot.

Dawgy · 12-01-2003, 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BlueFly
Lightspeed Cash has a few that are worth looking at. I tried promoting a few a while back. They did pretty good, but I just wasn't into it... I still have some galleries listed on google, and still have some hits here and there. All of their sites are very well done, and rebill at a pretty good rate 35% including trials... somewhere around 60% if you remove the canceled trials. I would give them a shot.

lol yeah lightspeed's gay site is good. it converts great and retains well. wonder how i know that? lol

VirtuMike · 12-01-2003, 03:45 PM

[URL=http://www.wildoncash.com]StreetBait from WildOnCash/URL] does really well. There are video updates of "straight" guys getting tricked into having gay sex.

Each plot is different and is engineered for maximum reality and humor. It's a good tour too and has great quality content.

As far as your complaints about the megasites, I think that it's important to give as much stuff as you can to the surfer. Just because they're into bears one day doesn't mean they wouldn't be into another niche the next. I like to mix it up for all my members with so much content they get lost - and they see what a value the site really is.

Your complaint is more aimed at the problem of a bear tour with sk8r boi content. That's a problem - bad retention and bad chargebacks. But if the tour matches the members area and there are bonuses inside, the surfers get that warm fuzzy recurring feeling.

hyatla · 12-01-2003, 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dawgy

lol yeah lightspeed's gay site is good. it converts great and retains well. wonder how i know that? lol

You own lightspeed? I know they are also in Phoenix, my home city.

Hey, any asian niche? Free hosting?

I think my current sponsor is absolutely what you ranted about, they have only plugins, upsells, no updates, boring contents...

BluMedia · 12-01-2003, 03:54 PM

Hey Dawgy,

How are you, I think you already have us. We are releasing 2 more gay sites this week. We will let you know when they are ready.

Thanks,
Mark

Dawgy · 12-01-2003, 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by hyatla
You own lightspeed? I know they are also in Phoenix, my home city.

lol how the hell did u get that from what i said?

no i dont own lightspeed.

Dawgy · 12-01-2003, 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by VirtuMike
As far as your complaints about the megasites, I think that it's important to give as much stuff as you can to the surfer. Just because they're into bears one day doesn't mean they wouldn't be into another niche the next. I like to mix it up for all my members with so much content they get lost - and they see what a value the site really is.

Your complaint is more aimed at the problem of a bear tour with sk8r boi content. That's a problem - bad retention and bad chargebacks. But if the tour matches the members area and there are bonuses inside, the surfers get that warm fuzzy recurring feeling.

thats the thing - my complaint wasnt about megasites. its about every single gay site having every single plugin with no exclusive or unique content. i guess i just have focused my efforts on a different business model than most large sponsor programs.

rather than fuck the surfer and bombard them with upsells and shitty content, so that i can pay webmasters $40 per join, i prefer to make the surfer happy so that they stay for months, even years, and pay the webmaster a % which is, in the end, way more than $40. lol

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TheLegacy · 12-02-2003, 02:28 PM

didnt see Joesho there - thanx for the compliment.

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Hope to talk to you soon

Halcyon · 12-02-2003, 02:39 PM

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MarinersFan · 12-02-2003, 04:49 PM

Dawgy,

A friend of mine runs a male bi-sexual site called BiParty.com

It's not a pure "gay" site but it has male-to-male sex so it might appeal to your audience. He updates regularly and has a members area that retains.

His sponsor site is www.OriginalBucks.com

Good Luck!

hyatla · 12-02-2003, 04:57 PM

I am lost in all the spamming. Dawgy, let me know after you test some good ones out.

--but you may not want to tell anybody then.

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12-01-2003, 01:20 PM	#1
Dawgy Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 5,856	spam me with GOOD gay sites when i say GOOD, i mean GOOD. for a project im working on, in the last week i have looked at dozens of sites, inside and out, and quite frankly they are pure crap. i dont understand how anyone retains members with sites that are: 1) nothing but plugins 2) never updated 3) full of content that isnt what the tour is about 4) full of upsells rather than actual content 5) shitty design and navigation but then again retention isnt important to most of you. only the upsells are. if youre a sponsor with sites that actually RETAIN and DONT fuck the surfer over, please hit me up. and dont try and sell me on your program. chances are im already a webmaster/member. just convince me that your sites retain and arent just going to fuck over my surfers. yah, some of us still care that surfers are happy. but then again some of us have members retaining for more than the trial. novel idea huh? and now for a rant... several programs ive checked out may have 20+ paysites, but they all have the same backend. if i join a bear site, i get the same fucking content as if i had joined a twink site. this is especially frustrating for people who join multiple sites. if i have a link to two sites by the same program on my page, and someone joins both sites (very common for my site/surfers) that surfer has officially been fucked. and they know it, because they arent stupid and can see that its the same content, even the same exact layout. then comes the refund/chargeback, and once again another surfer who will not trust me or join anything i promote. and the opposite is true - some people only join one kind of site... one niche... ie, if i pay $40 to see 30 year old hairy guys, i dont wanna login and see 18 year old hairless skater boys. but then again, maybe im being too logical. either way, i think that trying to make EVERY site a megasite is pointless. if youre going to buy every plugin on the planet, dont put them in ALL your sites. put them in the MEGA site. then put twinks in your twink site, bears in your bear site, etc.... most of you offer free access to your other sites for all your members anyway, so just link to the other sites, dont include all the same shit in every site... and yes ill get bashed for this post/rant, after all, these huge programs MUST be doing something right cuz they pay $40 per trial join and the program owners are all rich. maybe so. but separate out the gay sites from the rest of the program, isolate their stats... im really curious to see if the gay sites would stand on their own AND do so well. and i dont mean traffic/joins/upsells. we can all do that. i mean retention. are your members really worth $40? $80? $120? instead of giving a member shitty content and then pushing them to buy something else, why not just give them good content and make them happy so they stick around? a member who rebills at $30 a month for 6 months is worth a lot more than one who cancels 10 minutes after his $2.95 trial starts, then buys an upsell $100 bottle of viagra. why? cuz he will never join another one of your shitty sites again. sigh end rant... that said, hit me on icq or email or this post if u have sites that retain and wont fuck my surfers over. __________________ the revolution is coming.

12-01-2003, 01:27 PM	#5
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12-01-2003, 03:45 PM	#9
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12-02-2003, 04:38 PM	#24
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12-02-2003, 04:49 PM	#25
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12-02-2003, 04:57 PM	#26
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12-02-2003, 06:00 PM	#29
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