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Tuga · 12-02-2003, 12:49 PM

I cant believe some fucker made a bunch of transactions from my paypal account! And I never click those fake emails... someone got my password and used my account. Anyone experienced this shit?

JDog · 12-02-2003, 12:50 PM

Never had that happen, but good luck with paypal, they were assholes with me on a couple small issues!

jDoG

Tuga · 12-02-2003, 12:53 PM

Now everything is pending reversed or being investigated... that means I dont get my money until they finish it, but that fucker is not touching it either. More money for paypal

That money came from my CC, should I talk to my bank about it?

KMR Stitch · 12-02-2003, 12:53 PM

Weak password?

Someone knows your email password or hacked it/password recoverd it?

Someone knows your last 4 digits on your checking/creditcard?

Sub7? Netbus? Thebeast?

Nothing is 100%

KMR Stitch · 12-02-2003, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tuga
Now everything is pending reversed or being investigated... that means I dont get my money until they finish it, but that fucker is not touching it either. More money for paypal

That money came from my CC, should I talk to my bank about it?

<h1> YES DON'T FUCKING WAIT FOR PAYPAL!

Tuga · 12-02-2003, 12:55 PM

Someone got my password somehow, changed it now of course.

chemicaleyes · 12-02-2003, 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tuga
That money came from my CC, should I talk to my bank about it?

yes

Tuga · 12-02-2003, 01:01 PM

I had $0 on the account, but he took $550 from the CC. I'll go to my bank in the morning and see if I can chargeback those transactions.

I'm afraid my paypal account will be blocked or something while they check it out. I got a mail asking me to send some signed papers by mail... I think this will become a nightmare.

Gemini · 12-02-2003, 01:06 PM

The credit card and bank should have been the first two things you did... CALL them. Shut off the source and THEN worry about the faucet leaking.

Smokey The Bear · 12-02-2003, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tuga
I had $0 on the account, but he took $550 from the CC. I'll go to my bank in the morning and see if I can chargeback those transactions.

I'm afraid my paypal account will be blocked or something while they check it out. I got a mail asking me to send some signed papers by mail... I think this will become a nightmare.

Months and Months later.

www.epassporte.com

kmanrox · 12-02-2003, 01:36 PM

the whole paypal fraud department right on down to their policies sucks.... remember shemp got screwed over a monitor?

i got screwed on something i bought that was a computer file... it was corrupt, the guy nevercorrected it... i complained... they said tough shit because he delivered it, who cares if it doesnt work... lol

FUCK PAYPAL COCKSMOKERS!

bopha · 12-02-2003, 01:37 PM

Get more info here

paypalsucks.com

I hate paypal

steve90 · 12-28-2003, 12:33 AM

paypal could fucking careless your cc company will deal with it

Pornwolf · 12-28-2003, 12:34 AM

I'm surprised we don't hear of more Paypal fraud on this board.

american pervert · 12-28-2003, 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by kmanrox
the whole paypal fraud department right on down to their policies sucks.... remember shemp got screwed over a monitor?

i got screwed on something i bought that was a computer file... it was corrupt, the guy nevercorrected it... i complained... they said tough shit because he delivered it, who cares if it doesnt work... lol

FUCK PAYPAL COCKSMOKERS!

I had a similar experiance..... I bought some data.. not all of it was there. .paypal did nothing... still beats WU

SoundMan · 12-28-2003, 12:36 AM

That shit happend to me last week! , i was lucky to catch it, I signed up for some off the wall software and this paypal page came up saying my cookies were off, then i just closed out the site went to paypal and changed my password..

flashfire · 12-28-2003, 12:37 AM

paypal sucks

xxxoutsourcing · 12-28-2003, 01:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by flashfire
paypal sucks

I'll give you a rewind, PAY PAL SUCKS!

Hate em

foolio · 12-28-2003, 01:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gemini
The credit card and bank should have been the first two things you did... CALL them. Shut off the source and THEN worry about the faucet leaking.

VERY good advice. Your CC company will be much faster and easier to get a refund from.

Vitasoy · 12-28-2003, 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by bopha
Get more info here

paypalsucks.com

I hate paypal

too bad, it's universal now

Biggy2 · 12-28-2003, 01:35 AM

a while ago I got fucked through westernunion.com - First thing I did was call up my CC, and tell them the story.

they did a chargeback.

A few months later, i get a notice from westernunion.com saying i owe them money, they aren't responsible for fraud.

I said fuck it - they had the guys bank account, they could've helped me get my money back, they didn't do shit.

For a while they harassed me with legal letters from a "Retained Attorney" - my opinion was the day they actually started legal proceedings would be the day I paid (as it was only a few hundred dollars total)

To say the least, the letters stopped, nothing ever happened, and its been 2 years. - Fuck paypal, they should help YOU get your YOUR money back, it was THEIR lack of security that allowed this to happen, and thats the attitude you should take.

Charge that shit back, then when the money is out of paypal's pocket, lets see how hard their fraud department works.

This may not actually work, but hey - its a start. They will probably do the same thing... Just thought I'd share my experience.

avion · 12-28-2003, 03:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Smokey The Bear

Months and Months later.

www.epassporte.com

yep, paypal SUCKS! I dont use them anymore...

V_RocKs · 12-28-2003, 03:15 AM

How difficult is it to get a paypal password...

I figure out what billing company you use for your websites payment proccessing. I obtain the scripts you use. I figure out that your transaction log is world readable and download it. Now I have your customers user/pass/email information. I also have their address/city/state/zip possibly I have their CC/CVV2/ExpDate... I rip the database for the email:pass and create a simple program to bruteforce paypals login screen.

Out of your 200,000 past users I get 800 working paypals, 250 working epassportes, etc... easy as cheese...

Paul Markham · 12-28-2003, 03:31 AM

Charge it back on your Credit Card, but also phone Paypal and tell them what is happening. The problem from their end is at the moment they see it as a legit transaction the guy had all your details and now it's only your word that says it was wrong.

Look at it from two sides, it will give you a clearer picture and help you make better decisions.

We were with Paypal, they eventually dropped us and they paid us all the money they owed us and well within the 180 days they state in their contract.

12-02-2003, 12:49 PM	#1
Tuga Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portugal Posts: 7,678	Paypal fraud I cant believe some fucker made a bunch of transactions from my paypal account! And I never click those fake emails... someone got my password and used my account. Anyone experienced this shit? __________________ Go Fuck Yourself! ICQ 101411627

12-02-2003, 12:50 PM	#2
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12-02-2003, 12:53 PM	#3
Tuga Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portugal Posts: 7,678	Now everything is pending reversed or being investigated... that means I dont get my money until they finish it, but that fucker is not touching it either. More money for paypal That money came from my CC, should I talk to my bank about it? __________________ Go Fuck Yourself! ICQ 101411627

12-02-2003, 12:55 PM	#6
Tuga Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portugal Posts: 7,678	Someone got my password somehow, changed it now of course. __________________ Go Fuck Yourself! ICQ 101411627

12-02-2003, 01:01 PM	#8
Tuga Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portugal Posts: 7,678	I had $0 on the account, but he took $550 from the CC. I'll go to my bank in the morning and see if I can chargeback those transactions. I'm afraid my paypal account will be blocked or something while they check it out. I got a mail asking me to send some signed papers by mail... I think this will become a nightmare. __________________ Go Fuck Yourself! ICQ 101411627

12-02-2003, 12:53 PM	#4
KMR Stitch I am cool Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 14,494	Weak password? Someone knows your email password or hacked it/password recoverd it? Someone knows your last 4 digits on your checking/creditcard? Sub7? Netbus? Thebeast? Nothing is 100%

12-02-2003, 01:06 PM	#9
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12-02-2003, 01:36 PM	#11
kmanrox aka K-Man Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: The Gutter Posts: 29,295	the whole paypal fraud department right on down to their policies sucks.... remember shemp got screwed over a monitor? i got screwed on something i bought that was a computer file... it was corrupt, the guy nevercorrected it... i complained... they said tough shit because he delivered it, who cares if it doesnt work... lol FUCK PAYPAL COCKSMOKERS! __________________ Crypto HODLr Crypto mining Angel investor

12-02-2003, 01:37 PM	#12
bopha Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 1,882	Get more info here paypalsucks.com I hate paypal

12-28-2003, 12:33 AM	#13
steve90 Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: California Posts: 2,397	paypal could fucking careless your cc company will deal with it

12-28-2003, 12:34 AM	#14
Pornwolf Drunk and Unruly Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hollywood Posts: 22,712	I'm surprised we don't hear of more Paypal fraud on this board. __________________ I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade... Webair, bitches.

12-28-2003, 12:36 AM	#16
SoundMan So Fucking Banned Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: MidWest Posts: 3,471	That shit happend to me last week! , i was lucky to catch it, I signed up for some off the wall software and this paypal page came up saying my cookies were off, then i just closed out the site went to paypal and changed my password..

12-28-2003, 12:37 AM	#17
flashfire ICQ 1 6 7 8 5 3 4 9 2 Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 13,098	paypal sucks

12-28-2003, 01:35 AM	#21
Biggy2 Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 1,821	a while ago I got fucked through westernunion.com - First thing I did was call up my CC, and tell them the story. they did a chargeback. A few months later, i get a notice from westernunion.com saying i owe them money, they aren't responsible for fraud. I said fuck it - they had the guys bank account, they could've helped me get my money back, they didn't do shit. For a while they harassed me with legal letters from a "Retained Attorney" - my opinion was the day they actually started legal proceedings would be the day I paid (as it was only a few hundred dollars total) To say the least, the letters stopped, nothing ever happened, and its been 2 years. - Fuck paypal, they should help YOU get your YOUR money back, it was THEIR lack of security that allowed this to happen, and thats the attitude you should take. Charge that shit back, then when the money is out of paypal's pocket, lets see how hard their fraud department works. This may not actually work, but hey - its a start. They will probably do the same thing... Just thought I'd share my experience.

12-28-2003, 03:15 AM	#23
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,428	How difficult is it to get a paypal password... I figure out what billing company you use for your websites payment proccessing. I obtain the scripts you use. I figure out that your transaction log is world readable and download it. Now I have your customers user/pass/email information. I also have their address/city/state/zip possibly I have their CC/CVV2/ExpDate... I rip the database for the email:pass and create a simple program to bruteforce paypals login screen. Out of your 200,000 past users I get 800 working paypals, 250 working epassportes, etc... easy as cheese...

12-28-2003, 03:31 AM	#24
Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	Charge it back on your Credit Card, but also phone Paypal and tell them what is happening. The problem from their end is at the moment they see it as a legit transaction the guy had all your details and now it's only your word that says it was wrong. Look at it from two sides, it will give you a clearer picture and help you make better decisions. We were with Paypal, they eventually dropped us and they paid us all the money they owed us and well within the 180 days they state in their contract. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70