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Old 11-27-2003, 08:43 PM   #1
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Fuck you lil2rich4u2 and anyone who hates Tupac, Hes a FUcking God Of Rap & FUCK YOU!

Hey lil2rich4u2, elvils was a fuckign drugy you dumb fuck, you dont see people in colleges studying his druken, drug up'ed crack out fucking ass, but you do Tupac, I could give two shits about a guy who made 1 hit record, unlike tupac who was a great actor, raper and all eles. So FUCK YOU and FUck you if you hate tupac!!
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Hey lil2rich4u2, elvils was a fuckign drugy you dumb fuck, you dont see people in colleges studying his druken, drug up'ed crack out fucking ass, but you do Tupac, I could give two shits about a guy who made 1 hit record, unlike tupac who was a great actor, raper and all eles. So FUCK YOU and FUck you if you hate tupac!!
And I bet he would love you sucking his dick like a little punk cheerleader. Uh probably not so shut the fuck up and move along junior.

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lol, You two are funny shits I see, good thing you never leave your fucking room or you'd get shot
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Hey lil2rich4u2, elvils was a fuckign drugy you dumb fuck, you dont see people in colleges studying his druken, drug up'ed crack out fucking ass, but you do Tupac, I could give two shits about a guy who made 1 hit record, unlike tupac who was a great actor, raper and all eles. So FUCK YOU and FUck you if you hate tupac!!
Not to bag on Tupac but Elvis owns the dead guy money charts coming in at 40 mil while Tupac pulled in 12.

Elvis too was an actor in over 30 feature films..and while most were silly little musicals there were a couple that he actually did a good job in.

Tupac was talented...but to try and pretend Elvis didn't have an impact on pop culture or history is lame...Tupac had an impact as well but the simple point is Elvis' impact was much larger as it was felt world wide.
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I see it's still easy to ruffle some feathers around here.

Calm down.. sheesh.
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I see it's still easy to ruffle some feathers around here.

Calm down.. sheesh.
I felt somthing needed to said about lil2rich4u2 stupid thoughts, I dont hate elvis but he doesn't compaire to what tupac has accomplished
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I felt somthing needed to said about lil2rich4u2 stupid thoughts, I dont hate elvis but he doesn't compaire to what tupac has accomplished
Somehow I don't think you'd be the first to think lil2rich4u2's comments are stupid
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I felt somthing needed to said about lil2rich4u2 stupid thoughts, I dont hate elvis but he doesn't compaire to what tupac has accomplished
Dude how ignorant are you?

Tupac can not begin to "accomplish" what Elvis has accomplished.

20+ years after Elvis' death and he made $40 million...Tupac only made $12 million.

Elvis was in more films...had more hit records...step away from the crack pipe and open your eyes a bit.
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Not to bag on Tupac but Elvis owns the dead guy money charts coming in at 40 mil while Tupac pulled in 12.

Elvis too was an actor in over 30 feature films..and while most were silly little musicals there were a couple that he actually did a good job in.

Tupac was talented...but to try and pretend Elvis didn't have an impact on pop culture or history is lame...Tupac had an impact as well but the simple point is Elvis' impact was much larger as it was felt world wide.
You have to remember that Elvis got into the game alot earlier and was in it much longer.

I think it was easier back then to become popular. Do you think if Bob Dylan started today that he would have done as well as he did. Nope not a chance in hell.

Tupac had a much tougher road to become who he was.

To compare Tupac to Elvis is like comparing an 8 track to a cd. Too different times.
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You have to remember that Elvis got into the game alot earlier and was in it much longer.

I think it was easier back then to become popular. Do you think if Bob Dylan started today that he would have done as well as he did. Nope not a chance in hell.

Tupac had a much tougher road to become who he was.

To compare Tupac to Elvis is like comparing an 8 track to a cd. Too different times.
LOL okay whatever.

You have a world today that is much smaller than it was then...Elvis owned the world like the Beatles did back when you didn't have MTV, music videos, the internet and you're trying to say it was easier?

LOL okay.
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LOL I love how the illiterates here are going to try and draw me into defending Elvis...but dude come on wake up and smell the coffee.

Elvis was a performer and OWNED...simple as that.

And he wasn't fat his entire life...for you to focus on one aspect of his entire life truly shows your ignorance.

I like Tupac and give him credit where credit is due...the only thing I'm saying is you gotta give Elvis credit for taking what he did to such an extreme level.

He was one of the first superstars ever...and that has transcended time.
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LOL okay whatever.

You have a world today that is much smaller than it was then...Elvis owned the world like the Beatles did back when you didn't have MTV, music videos, the internet and you're trying to say it was easier?

LOL okay.
What? What? What? You think the world today is smaller? Are you on crack? I don't know what the stats are and don't care... the population in this world has grown out of control in some areas.

As far as the music scene goes... the competition its alot tougher. If one person like Tupac stumbles onto something and it catches on... then by next week there will be 50 Tupac wanna be's out there.

Elvis carved out a spot for himself and nobody really copied him cause they were doing their own thing. Back then there were a smaller number of bands that were popular. Today peoples music tastes vary so much that bands are fighting for cd sales, etc.

Back then you had Elvis, Beatles, Stones, Floyd, Zepplin and a few other and everyone pretty much listen to it.

Not the same world today buddy.. come into the year 2000

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What? What? What? You think the world today is smaller? Are you on crack? I don't know what the stats are and don't care... the population in this world has grown out of control in some areas.

As far as the music scene goes... the competition its alot tougher. If one person like Tupac stumbles onto something and it catches on... then by next week there will be 50 Tupac wanna be's out there.

Elvis carved out a spot for himself and nobody really copied him cause they were doing their own thing. Back then there were a smaller number of bands that were popular. Today peoples music tastes vary so much that bands are fighting for cd sales, etc.

Back then you had Elvis, Beatles, Stones, Floyd, Zepplin and a few other and everyone pretty much listen to it.

Not the same world today buddy.. come into the year 2000

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Not even going to bother reading what you said because your ignorance shines through in the first line.

The world is "smaller." Metaphorically dude. You can get on a plane and be on another continent in a few short hours...but the thing is you don't even need to do that...today you've got the net...broadband...MTV...Music Videos...they didn't have all that then.

Today your a star just by being on a "reality show." You can even be a star across the world.

Was impossible to do that then...you had to work it in real time. Put in the effort in live shows...travel...no music videos for Elvis just State fair grounds.
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And regardless of what you try and say about Elvis V Tupac..Elvis made $40 mil last year...Tupac made $12...and Elvis fan base has been dying off for quite some time now...explain that!

I can...Elvis has transcended time...generations...races...let's see if Tupac's listeners can say that 20 + years after his death.
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Not even going to bother reading what you said because your ignorance shines through in the first line.

The world is "smaller." Metaphorically dude. You can get on a plane and be on another continent in a few short hours...but the thing is you don't even need to do that...today you've got the net...broadband...MTV...Music Videos...they didn't have all that then.

Today your a star just by being on a "reality show." You can even be a star across the world.

Was impossible to do that then...you had to work it in real time. Put in the effort in live shows...travel...no music videos for Elvis just State fair grounds.
Im trying to see things from your point of view....BUT I can't get my head that far up my ASS.

If your not going to bother to take the time to read my response consider this discussion closed. You are not worth my time.
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Im trying to see things from your point of view....BUT I can't get my head that far up my ASS.

If your not going to bother to take the time to read my response consider this discussion closed. You are not worth my time.
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Oh god. A bunch of dorks who are bummed they didn't get the chance to suck tupac's cock.

I'm not a fan of Elvis or Tupac, but to compare the two of them is retarded.

And when the "world is smaller" it doesn't mean that geographically there is less land or popuplation-wise there are fewer people. I can't believe I read some of the stuff I read on here sometimes.
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Threads like this make me laught. WTF is up with people idolizing thugs? I seriously don't get it, he was a criminal, could not sing, had no talent to speak of, was a druggie and guess what? He's DEAD for a reason. He was mixed up in things and mixed up in a lifestyle not becomming of a decent human being.

Tupac was just another one of those "I'ma shoot my mama and smack my bitch and then go lift 40's at the gas station then go back with my homies and smoke more crack" fools. Yeah.... talk about talent. Get over it. He sucked, he still sucks, and will suck forever.
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Oh god. A bunch of dorks who are bummed they didn't get the chance to suck tupac's cock.

I'm not a fan of Elvis or Tupac, but to compare the two of them is retarded.

And when the "world is smaller" it doesn't mean that geographically there is less land or popuplation-wise there are fewer people. I can't believe I read some of the stuff I read on here sometimes.
My thoughts exactly
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What grade are you in little guy? I think it may be way past your bedtime now.
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For the record. I respect what both have done but I don't listen to either of them. I responed to eroswebmaster because he has no idea what he is talking about.

eroswebmaster all you keep saying in this thread and the other one is Elvis made more money..blah blah blah blah.... you said it once, you don't have to say it over and over. If thats the only point you have in this discussion then its time to shut the hell up.

Now don't step on my blue suede shoes on your way outta this thread
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Hey lil2rich4u2, elvils was a fuckign drugy you dumb fuck, you dont see people in colleges studying his druken, drug up'ed crack out fucking ass, but you do Tupac, I could give two shits about a guy who made 1 hit record, unlike tupac who was a great actor, raper and all eles. So FUCK YOU and FUck you if you hate tupac!!
YOU GOTTA BE FUCKING KIDDING ME.

DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHO THE FUCK ELVIS IS?
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For the record. I respect what both have done but I don't listen to either of them. I responed to eroswebmaster because he has no idea what he is talking about.

eroswebmaster all you keep saying in this thread and the other one is Elvis made more money..blah blah blah blah.... you said it once, you don't have to say it over and over. If thats the only point you have in this discussion then its time to shut the hell up.

Now don't step on my blue suede shoes on your way outta this thread
I have no idea what I'm talking about?

Elvis made more money...had more #1 hits...had a larger fan base...made more movies...has been dead for over 20 years and still makes more money than a lot of stars..what else needs to be said?

You're the one who couldn't handle a simple metaphor like..."the world is smaller now."

You can try and make up excuses for Elvis success to try to comfort your inner gangsta but that's all they'll be...excuses.

Elvis owned then...he continues to own now and you can't explain that...and why? Because it blows your whole argument out of the water.

How does a guy who's initial fan base were teens and twenty somethings in the 50's continue to make $40 million a year?

He does it by being the biggest pop icon in the history of music...that's how...and by his popularity crossing many boundaries including time..generations...localities..races whatever.

That is something I doubt will be said about Tupac. I cannot see 20+ years from now Tupac's music crossing over that many boundaries.

Tupac is the one who carved a "niche." Elvis owned a variety of "niches."

He was the "king of rock," owned in rockabilly, country, bluegrass..gospel..failed at Vegas initially but came to own that as well.

He was a movie star 33 X's over...the guy was a living legend and the original singer who faked his death...LOL...Tupac fans just copying that shit.

Give credit where credit is due ALL AROUND. Not just to the guys you happen to like today...and think just because your parents listened to them then are "queer shit."
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For the record. Now don't step on my blue suede shoes on your way outta this thread
And for the "record," you were the one crying earlier about how you would no longer respond to me...ROFL.

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Hey lil2rich4u2, elvils was a fuckign drugy you dumb fuck, you dont see people in colleges studying his druken, drug up'ed crack out fucking ass, but you do Tupac, I could give two shits about a guy who made 1 hit record, unlike tupac who was a great actor, raper and all eles. So FUCK YOU and FUck you if you hate tupac!!
btw, now that I read this post again, this is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard.

You think Elvis had one hit record, and that more people have studied Tupac's life than Elvis's?

That's funny. Or sad. Depending on how you look at it. Funny in a sad way, maybe.
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I felt somthing needed to said about lil2rich4u2 stupid thoughts, I dont hate elvis but he doesn't compaire to what tupac has accomplished
What Tupac has accomplished? You mean getting killed at 25?
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Threads like this make me laught. WTF is up with people idolizing thugs? I seriously don't get it, he was a criminal, could not sing, had no talent to speak of, was a druggie and guess what? He's DEAD for a reason. He was mixed up in things and mixed up in a lifestyle not becomming of a decent human being.

Tupac was just another one of those "I'ma shoot my mama and smack my bitch and then go lift 40's at the gas station then go back with my homies and smoke more crack" fools. Yeah.... talk about talent. Get over it. He sucked, he still sucks, and will suck forever.
Hmmm...someone who hasn't listen to tupac I presume
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wow, he's all covered in tatoos, and he has a GUN down his crotch! AAAND he holds a spliff, this guy is my fucking idol from now on
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btw, now that I read this post again, this is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard.

You think Elvis had one hit record, and that more people have studied Tupac's life than Elvis's?

That's funny. Or sad. Depending on how you look at it. Funny in a sad way, maybe.
Elvis holds the record for :
Most Hit Singles On US Chart
Elvis Presley had a record 149 hit singles on the Billboard Hot 100 between 1956 and 1996. THe King of rock 'n' roll took his first step towards a musical career at the age of eight, when he won $5 in a local singing contest in Tupelo, Mississippi performing the Red Folley ballad, "Old Shep".

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Most US No. 1 Albums By A Male Solo Artist
Elvis Presley had a record nine solo albums reach the number one spot on the US chart. They were ? Elvis Presley (1956), Elvis (1956), Loving You (1957), Elvis Christmas Album (1957), GI Blues (1960), Something For Everybody (1961), Blue Hawaii (1961), Roustabout (1964), and Elvis ? Aloha From Hawaii (1973).
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Oh yeah and let's not forget this one:

Most Platinum Certificates For Record Sales
The only audited measure of record sales in the USA is certification by the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA). Elvis Presley holds the record for the most platinum certificates issued by the RIAA, with 70.
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Hmm...I wonder when we'll be voting on a Tupac stamp?
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Hmm...I wonder when we'll be voting on a Tupac stamp?
ill second that motion
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Let me know how many people are visiting Tupac's home in 20 years.
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Let me know how many people are visiting Tupac's home in 20 years.
But I did hear Kurt Russel is going to play Tupac in the TV movie of the week ;)
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Graceland opened for tours on June 7, 1982 and has been visited by over 600,000 guests yearly. Graceland's visitors come from all over the world and have varied tastes as well as varied knowledge and interest in Elvis. From the fan that has saved and planned to come for years to the husband who comes reluctantly at his wife's request. Graceland has hosted celebrities, actors, rockers, dignitaries as well as heads of state. Over half of the visitors are under 35 years of age proving that Elvis is touching a new generation.
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But I did hear Kurt Russel is going to play Tupac in the TV movie of the week ;)
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Wheres the proff
tupac was a snobby fool when I met him, Biggy would of put his ass on check anyday.
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Comparing Tupac and Elvis... fucking ridiculous.

That's apples and oranges... and that apple doesn't hold a candle to it's counterpart.
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Elvis was fake. Read how he treated to Lennon.
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Not to bag on Tupac but Elvis owns the dead guy money charts coming in at 40 mil while Tupac pulled in 12.

Elvis too was an actor in over 30 feature films..and while most were silly little musicals there were a couple that he actually did a good job in.

Tupac was talented...but to try and pretend Elvis didn't have an impact on pop culture or history is lame...Tupac had an impact as well but the simple point is Elvis' impact was much larger as it was felt world wide.
Exactly! Don't get me wrong - I liked 2pac .... I love "California Love" - amazing video
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well ya gotta hand it to the rap boys from bring murder into pop music, elvis didn't do that. however to me frank sinatra is the pop music god
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