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I'm very pleased to have been the Martyr for today. Let me know when you people are finished, ok? I feel very honored you've taken some time from your busy lives to analyze one sentence of all the things I've written on the board, and devoted an entire thread to me alone. My sig thanks you, even though it's not fancy :)

Are you really in charge of Jact Content? I have bought a ton from there for various paysites.

And for the record, I HOPE no more innocent soldiers have to die in Iraq. It's a vain hope, but I HOPE I WISH and if I COULD make it possible, I would bring them all home alive.

I HOPE they succeed in protecting innocent Americans in the future.

This thread is dyslexic.

You did not understand my reply. You are saying that people said worse. You know the argument is stupid and totally immature. But u still used it?! This means you are on the same level as them. People wishing death are either ignorant or simply stupid.

More Americans probably agree with LadyMischief than the King, they're just afraid to admit it publicly because anti-American people like the King will try to get them named as terrorists and executed.

Worldwide, the percentage who agree with LadyMischief is probably somewhere over 90%.

Being anti-Bush is not anti-American, no matter what all the Clinton haters might tell you. :1orglaugh

Pathfinder is a comedian.

You think they are protecting Americans in Iraq? :1orglaugh

LOL - I knew someone would bring an opposite opinion to each of my fact backed opinions.

And my friend, who just got back from "protecting Americans" hopes no more of his friends and companions get blown up and live in terrible conditions.

Im anti americans who use the dumb ass expression anti-american.

your getting too deep on me now

Well, he didn`t have to join the military if he is not clear on what war really is.

Of course the death of a soldier is never justified, they DO join up to PROTECT Americans. That is their duty whether they like it once they have been in battle, or not.


Mr Fiction - Yes, the presence of Soldiers in the middle east, destroys funds and camps and weapons and everything else that could potentiall be used against the US - and thus, prevents future planned attacks.

Just because there is limited talk about weapons that have been found does not mean they dont exist, nor does it mean they DO exist, but the military has a reasonable suspicion using intelligence from our CIA, and from surrounding countries that deal with this every single day.

Whatever happened to your site? It never seems to load whenever I revise my database.

LMAO!!!!

DH

It's not like he's new to war. He was in the first Gulf war under Bush Sr. He is of the opinion that THIS particular war, however, is wrong, and many of the things going on there are nothing but senseless destruction. So what does that make him? He's an American who's FOUGHT for his country, but apparently if he doesn't share your opinions all that is for nothing because he isn't American? I'm sure he'll be very pleased to hear it :) And YOU need to take message boards less seriously.

Very true - everyone wants the to survive. But everyone also wants to be able to ride that elevator up to their office everyday without fear.

She said "innocent", Pathfinder. :1orglaugh

It's very unlikely you were ever in the military if you don't understand the difference between those who start wars and those who fight them.

Nice thought that applies to all...other than the soldier's Commander in Chief???

I am only taking your conversation seriously.

I no longer care about his opinion, because it has been distorted by you.

I am in contact with at least 25 professional soldiers that I served with at one time or another that are in Iraq...and all would prefer to be at their home bases...with their families...in a safer environment...but none resent being there and recognize why they are there.

Wishing death on the American leader may have been a tad over the top. That's all I'm going to say on that.


The US forces need to take a firmer hold on Iraq so that they (the Iraqi people) can be set up to eventually hold a fair and unbiased free election, form their own government, and then get on with being a country again. Having all US forces yanked out of there now would likely result in that country self-desctructing in on itself in utter chaos..... my personal opinion only.

Good Point.

My bad for making an offhand remark that was only half serious. What's REALLY unfortunate is HOW far others will take even the smallest thing where politics is concerned, it's like an obsession. I have a very strong opinion, and sure I'l engage in a few arguements, but I don't think anyone has a right to crucify someone else for a political opinion, or a statement that, if taken in context, was obviously not something that was serious to the point of intent.

Pulling out of Iraq right now WOULD make things worse, I agree with that because I see the truth, and I'm not a stupid person. The REASON for being there is what I don't agree with. THAT IS MY RIGHT. Just as it is their right to state their opposite opinions. The lynching session is a little over the top, however, I would think, especially considering the large amount of people who have said worse things or out and out made threats (serious or not).

I was not under the impression that victimization was the American way. Perhaps I was incorrect?

I know a number of people in the U.S. military, active duty and retired, and almost every one of them, with a few right wing exceptions, thinks Bush is an idiot and Iraq was a mistake.

That doesn't change the fact that they are proud to be part of the military and proud to do what they are asked to do.

This has to be one of the funniest things that I have read thus far. What makes your opinion more logical then anyone else's?? As for common sense, I have yet to see it prevail in this post. The majority of the entire world?? Puhleeeze. Turn off CNN and do some real research...

Proof once again that common sense and logic are not qualities that we are born with.

Simmer down now lovely one. I see where you're coming from on many points, but what is done is done. There is no going back, no amount of wishing is going to reverse things.

But hoping for a dead president probably wasn't the best way to get your point across. If it were me..... I would probably retract that one, joke or not. People, Amercians, ARE sensitive when it comes to idle comments like that. That's just the way it is.

I will apologize if anyone was offended.. But I will NOT apologize for feeling and thinking what I feel and think. I'll remember not to share it next time. I'm not the only one who went a little far to make a point, however, and as I'm sure you can imagine, DO feel I have a right to speak up, thank you muchly :P

Actually I think you are the most obsessive anti-Bush person I have witnessed in a long time, other than Al Franken :1orglaugh I've never seen a Canadian with so much hatred for a US President, as I have seen in you. You are opinionated yes, but you are also very hostile. It's disturbing... almost as if you believe Bush is only out to make YOUR life hell.

Apparently you haven't turned on your TV in a few years? :1orglaugh

How's that? There have been DOZENS of anti-bush threads in the last week (including one that went pages and pages (I don't think I even posted there once), and I post in ONE thread out of those dozens, and I'm obsessed? Puuuhlease. I may have strong opinions, but the only ones that are obsessed are the ones so desperate to find someone to crucify, apparently.

So please, show me proof of this obsession. I don't even hate BUSH. I hate to see what's happening to what I always thought was a fantastic country, and see what's happening to many wonderful friends I have there who are directly affected by what even THEY say is the result of his leadership. Since when does that constitute obsession? Having an opinion? If that's the case, my dear, you need to see a shrink, because you make YOUR opinions pretty clear EVERYWHERE.

No I haven't seen anyone on TV wish Bush dead

There, that wasn't so hard.

I never suggested you do that, nor would I. You know me, big proponent of free speech and all that.

"But officer, everyone else in the riot was busting windows and looting TV's, how come you're arresting ME??"



You know I love you. :winkwink:

I apologize for offending people with my statement that wasn't serious. I was making an off-handed point. But my fucking god how long does the horse have to be dead before you guys get a clue?

Yeah, and you also know this is bullshit, Cd.

I don`t own a TV.
I don't read news articles on the internet, unless they are pasted to me.
The majority of my opinions are from real world experience and observation of other people's arrogance & banality.

Now you will say i`m uneducated - so whatever, I can't win against people like you. I can agree with you or state the opposite and you will then attack me for exactly the opposite of what you started with.

:thumbsup

But I do have to disagree with you about her being the "most obsessive" as there are a few others that are in the "competition" in my opinion...but I will agree that she is the "most obsessive" female. BTW...I think that "hostile" is an understatement and think "vehemently hostile" is applicable.

Struth. A certain aussie that hasn't posted under his usual nick lately comes to mind.

Yeah, I think Furious_Females`s Idenntity applies more to Lady Mischief.

Furious_Female should become 'Informed_Female"
And lady mischief should become "Furious_Lady"

how dose ones political opinon effect work ethics?
busness is busness and a personal opinion is just that. If someone is doen a good job so be it. i could care less about there personal views as long as they do what they are paid for:2 cents:

Your opinions are backed by a lot of emotion and not a lot of logic. You try very hard to express your opinions and it makes you seem much more committed to your anti-Bush views, than others. Therefore, it comes off as obsessive with all the emphasis you put on things, some of which have no bearing on you or your country.

When you post things about Bush, I imagine this frazzled woman jumping up and down, trying to get every bit of expression into the point she's trying to make LMAO I guess when I discuss politics, it doesn't raise my blood pressure and I can discuss things without stooping to wishing death upon people.

Regardless of what you might think about my level of hostility, if I was in the US, would I not be FULLY ENTITLED TO HAVE A RIGHT TO THAT OPINION WITHOUT PERSECUTION under the US constitution? If I said "I HOPE Michael Jackson gets back what he did to children when he's in jail", would you be laughing with me? Or could I be burned at the stake for that too?

If thinking/feeling something is wrong (which it likely will be in the US, allsomeone has to do is say "terrorist") in the US, there is DEFINITELY something wrong with how people are reading the constitution. A lot of people hold VERY STRONG opinions in the states too, but I don't recall the last time it was legal OR acceptable to victimize them for that.

I have always read your posts and even agreed with you (although on the political scale we have disagreed many times, and likely always will). But I would NEVER EVER single you out with the intention of ruining business or attempting humiliation. THAT is just as over the top as you claim my statement was. I am human, what I said was something I said that I only half meant. I would NEVER truly wish harm on ANYONE. Your reason for starting this thread, however, was FULLY intended, and I am VERY offended, based on your reason alone.

If this holds true, I think its rather funny that all of us are fighting for our opinion, rather than simply educating the uninformed - but even then, the uninformed develop an opinion, and our education stops.

Well, you did point out several times that others had said similar things, yes? That was my weak attempt to lighten the mood here. I'll try harder, but the smell coming from my oven is driving me a bit batty at the moment. Can't think of anything except what I'm gonna do to that bird in about 2 hours from now.

Definately intgelligent. I also envision the same thing.

I'm mad at you now. I'm craving turkey and it's not a turkey day here. My hubby hates turkey so I don't get it even then :(

That's right. Now, see that link down in my sig that says "Looking for content?"...... click it, and buy some. Jact content is da bomb.

oh yeah almost forgot.
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So what exactly was your intent on starting this thread then? Are you going to start one for every single person that makes a strong Anti-Bush statement? If you don't, you are a hypocrite.