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Veterans Day · 11-26-2003, 01:15 PM

http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,111705,00.asp

read in to it what you want.

chemicaleyes · 11-26-2003, 01:24 PM

interesting..

Mr.Fiction · 11-26-2003, 01:28 PM

The Redmond, Washington, software maker will pay its customers' full legal bills if they get sued over intellectual property issues relating to its products. Also, Microsoft no longer limits its liability when a customer suffers damages due to gross negligence or intentional misconduct on Microsoft's part, said Morris Kremen, associate general counsel at Microsoft, in an interview on Tuesday.

Another problem for Acacia?

Veterans Day · 11-26-2003, 01:33 PM

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Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
The Redmond, Washington, software maker will pay its customers' full legal bills if they get sued over intellectual property issues relating to its products. Also, Microsoft no longer limits its liability when a customer suffers damages due to gross negligence or intentional misconduct on Microsoft's part, said Morris Kremen, associate general counsel at Microsoft, in an interview on Tuesday.

Another problem for Acacia?

i was thinking that? I dont know though, you now big business is an ugly world, but if true and it worked we could all just sit back and relax ..... tra-la-la-la it would be over in no time

Gemini · 11-26-2003, 01:33 PM

And *I* am the Messiah. lol They now protect **customers**. Using their format of mpg doesn't make you a customer.

JamesK · 11-26-2003, 01:35 PM

sweet

Mr.Fiction · 11-26-2003, 01:36 PM

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Originally posted by Gemini
And *I* am the Messiah. lol They now protect **customers**. Using their format of mpg doesn't make you a customer.

It also signals a evolution in their corporate philosophy. Anyone using MS encoding tools or video format will probably be sued by Acacia. If MS is really interested in protecting their customers, this is good news for us and bad news for Acacia.

Hopefully the IMPA has been in contact with MS about this.

notjoe · 11-26-2003, 01:38 PM

Complete BS.

The amount of wasted bandwidth due to M$ works which turn around and DDOS other machines would be HUGE. What about the amount of money for lost sales during the times of attack? What about damage done to networks along the path of destruction from the worm? What about affected customers in the middle?

The chances of everyone in the middling suing the affected company who will then cry to M$ to imdemify them may be nill but what happens if it happen every single time someone got nailed but an out of control M$ Machine?

Gemini · 11-26-2003, 01:53 PM

It's possible... but the concensus has been that the date that MS said they'd step in and ac*cias starting up last year... See what I mean? As well as the customer definition not being explained.

If MS were actually going to make a move, they would have by now you'd think. They know what is going on whether they admit it or not. ;-) You don't get to be a trillion dollar company without having whole departments that just dig information up.

So by sitting and staying mute, they'd be hurting themselves when it went public. Even if they were ignoring the adult industry, could they sit by after the schools were informed?

Mr.Fiction · 11-26-2003, 02:28 PM

One of the problems is that Acacia is really good with press releases and the other side is silent.

If MS felt pressure from the public they would probably be more likely to get involved.

There is almost no press coming from those who believe that the patent is worthless.

Veterans Day · 11-26-2003, 02:31 PM

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Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
One of the problems is that Acacia is really good with press releases and the other side is silent.

If MS felt pressure from the public they would probably be more likely to get involved.

There is almost no press coming from those who believe that the patent is worthless.

exactly the PR at Homegrown is about as good as this patent being legit. I always wondered why they have no releases, maybe they know something I dont, very possible

latinasojourn · 11-26-2003, 03:22 PM

the reason we don't hear much from microsoft, realplayer, AOL, CNN, abcnews, Sony, etc, etc ,etc

is that they do not take acacia seriously as a threat.

there's a reason for that.

tons of prior art is surfacing as we speak.

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Gemini Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: o-HI-o Posts: 7,183	It's possible... but the concensus has been that the date that MS said they'd step in and ac*cias starting up last year... See what I mean? As well as the customer definition not being explained. If MS were actually going to make a move, they would have by now you'd think. They know what is going on whether they admit it or not. ;-) You don't get to be a trillion dollar company without having whole departments that just dig information up. So by sitting and staying mute, they'd be hurting themselves when it went public. Even if they were ignoring the adult industry, could they sit by after the schools were informed? __________________ <center><a target="_blank" href="http://dev.datedollars.com/index.php?s=signup&aid=535&cfg=aac"><img border="0" src="http://216.130.172.224/gfy/gsig.gif" width="490" height="100"></a><br><a href="http://dev.datedollars.com/index.php?s=signup&aid=535&cfg=aac" target="_blank"><b><font face="Arial"><font color="#FF99FF"> Buy me away from Slavedriver Smokey!<br>It's May Sig Sweeps!<font></b></center>

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Mr.Fiction Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Free Speech Land Posts: 9,484	The Redmond, Washington, software maker will pay its customers' full legal bills if they get sued over intellectual property issues relating to its products. Also, Microsoft no longer limits its liability when a customer suffers damages due to gross negligence or intentional misconduct on Microsoft's part, said Morris Kremen, associate general counsel at Microsoft, in an interview on Tuesday. Another problem for Acacia?

11-26-2003, 01:38 PM	#8
notjoe Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 5,599	Complete BS. The amount of wasted bandwidth due to M$ works which turn around and DDOS other machines would be HUGE. What about the amount of money for lost sales during the times of attack? What about damage done to networks along the path of destruction from the worm? What about affected customers in the middle? The chances of everyone in the middling suing the affected company who will then cry to M$ to imdemify them may be nill but what happens if it happen every single time someone got nailed but an out of control M$ Machine?

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Mr.Fiction Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Free Speech Land Posts: 9,484	One of the problems is that Acacia is really good with press releases and the other side is silent. If MS felt pressure from the public they would probably be more likely to get involved. There is almost no press coming from those who believe that the patent is worthless.

11-26-2003, 03:22 PM	#12
latinasojourn Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 3,191	the reason we don't hear much from microsoft, realplayer, AOL, CNN, abcnews, Sony, etc, etc ,etc is that they do not take acacia seriously as a threat. there's a reason for that. tons of prior art is surfacing as we speak.