Do you pay for software? - GoFuckYourself.com

Corleone · 11-25-2003, 02:17 AM

i know ya're all super rich ;)

but do you really pay for each softare your buying?
photoshop, premier, dreamweaver, ....

kmanrox · 11-25-2003, 02:18 AM

in thailand i pay 3$ for any software in the world... at the mall...

$5 submissions · 11-25-2003, 04:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by kmanrox
in thailand i pay 3$ for any software in the world... at the mall...

Hehehe I can relate.

Rorschach · 11-25-2003, 04:46 AM

lol my friend is living in Bangkok at the moment and he was telling me about this massive IT mall with shops and shops full of warez. He sent me some CDs and it was all very professional, nicely done covers and all neatly laid out with cracks...

but personally I prefer to get my software from http://sourceforge.net and http://freshmeat.net

hornycash · 11-25-2003, 04:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Corleone
i know ya're all super rich ;)

but do you really pay for each softare your buying?
photoshop, premier, dreamweaver, ....

pay for your software and be professional...
you also wanna be payed by sponsors, customers, etc.

Reak · 11-25-2003, 04:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by kmanrox
in thailand i pay 3$ for any software in the world... at the mall...

we all know thailand is cheap

but those 3 dollar cds are copied, the real stuff is a bit more exspensive, still cheap tough

superweb · 11-25-2003, 05:37 AM

If you want MS Office for $3, visit Moscow's software shops. If you want a "Original holographic sticker" on the CD, be prepared to pay $2 more.
I don't pay for software I mustn't, I always try to find free alternative. But when there's no free alternative(or only bad free alternative), I buy the original copy.

kmanrox · 11-25-2003, 05:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by hornycash

pay for your software and be professional...
you also wanna be payed by sponsors, customers, etc.

oh, so you're the one net user who has never pirated a single thing before, or tried?

notjoe · 11-25-2003, 06:35 AM

I pirate software all the time. I am fed up with spending hundreds if not thousands on software which turns out not to do what you want it to do or doesnt do what it says it will do on the box.

Once i try the software and if i actually like it/it works for me then i'll actually go out and buy it.

Think about it. What if you actually bought every peice of software which you didnt use more than once or twice because it lacks what you need or the quality of it is just pure shit?

Example, Adobe Premiere. I installed it, launched it once and never used it again, should i have to pay for something i cant use? I dont think so. I bought photoshop though because i use that quite often.

adjektiv · 11-25-2003, 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by notjoe
I pirate software all the time. I am fed up with spending hundreds if not thousands on software which turns out not to do what you want it to do or doesnt do what it says it will do on the box.

Once i try the software and if i actually like it/it works for me then i'll actually go out and buy it.

Think about it. What if you actually bought every peice of software which you didnt use more than once or twice because it lacks what you need or the quality of it is just pure shit?

Example, Adobe Premiere. I installed it, launched it once and never used it again, should i have to pay for something i cant use? I dont think so. I bought photoshop though because i use that quite often.

Can I borrow a DVD from your DVD store? I might pay for it if it does what I want it to.

thanks!

J B · 11-25-2003, 08:01 AM

Well, I guess everybody that runs a serious business doesn't (need to) use pirated software. At least we wouldn't take the risk just to save a few bucks.

NBDesign · 11-25-2003, 08:32 AM

I buy the OEM versions... a lot cheaper.. I don't need those manuals so why pay for them.

Photoshop 7 49.95
Windows XP Pro 34.95
illustrator 10 49.95
MS Office Pro 49.95

blazin · 11-25-2003, 08:34 AM

Yes, for software for my mainstream business we always pay for the license... There are very hefty fines for companies using pirate software in the UK.

Most of us in development use Windows 98 for our desktops in anycase which is fairly cheap. All our servers are running Linux, with the exception of a couple of Sun's Sparcs.

I would actually move to Linux for my desktop if I could use Dreamweaver on it.

loverboy · 11-25-2003, 10:57 AM

you can get it here for as low as $6-10 for a software copy, name your software. unless you want to get it for free, if youre broke...
use Kazaa. I know most people share alot of sotwares out there.

beemk · 11-25-2003, 11:15 AM

only software i ever payed for is gass

Reak · 11-25-2003, 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by beemk
only software i ever payed for is gass

owh god

notjoe · 11-25-2003, 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by adjektiv

Can I borrow a DVD from your DVD store? I might pay for it if it does what I want it to.

thanks!

I can go out and buy a shirt, or shoes, or pants and if i dont like them tomorrow i can bring them back. If i order food i dont like i can send it back.

So, if i dont like the software i buy why the hell cant i return it? If stores changed their return policy so that you COULD return software that doesnt quite suit your needs (just like i can return a shirt i dont like) you're fucking right I'll try before i buy.

Same thing with PS2 Games.. You know how many games i have sitting here that i bought because they looked cool on the package only to play them and find out they're just a fraction of what the box hypes them up to be. Now they sit here and are 50-70 Beer Coasters (i dont play them anyways).

Sure, i could then sell the software i buy but at what cost? Getting a 3rd of what i paid for it? fuck that too

doober · 11-25-2003, 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by NBDesign
I buy the OEM versions... a lot cheaper.. I don't need those manuals so why pay for them.

Photoshop 7 49.95
Windows XP Pro 34.95
illustrator 10 49.95
MS Office Pro 49.95

doesnt OEM means it comes without the box instructions and wrappers?

who sells XP for 49.95??

Id love a link to a place that sells software at this price

konduct · 11-25-2003, 11:26 AM

notjoe · 11-25-2003, 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by doober

doesnt OEM means it comes without the box instructions and wrappers?

who sells XP for 49.95??

Id love a link to a place that sells software at this price

you and i both

JamesK · 11-25-2003, 11:29 AM

I never buy software, it's gay. Why buy it if I can get it off the net for free?

JDog · 11-25-2003, 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by kmanrox
in thailand i pay 3$ for any software in the world... at the mall...

Yea, but everything in Thailand is a bootleg! Damn I wish I only paid that much

jDoG

JDog · 11-25-2003, 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by blazin
Yes, for software for my mainstream business we always pay for the license... There are very hefty fines for companies using pirate software in the UK.

Most of us in development use Windows 98 for our desktops in anycase which is fairly cheap. All our servers are running Linux, with the exception of a couple of Sun's Sparcs.

I would actually move to Linux for my desktop if I could use Dreamweaver on it.

Yes I hear ya, there are fines in the US too!

jDoG

Basic_man · 11-25-2003, 11:34 AM

Yeah, I pay the 5$ for the CD-R with the software that I want on it :D

who · 11-25-2003, 11:35 AM

I think we're supporting the people who made the software enough just by USING the damn stuff. PAYING for it is supporting the guy who owns the company.. and if he owns a company he's obviously rich enough anyway

Next thing Microsoft will try to do is make a crappy OS with security like a bucket of swiss cheese and then sell it cheaply, and charge people for the hotfixes it supplies ever few weeks.

Thieves! All of them!!

J B · 11-25-2003, 01:22 PM

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loverboy · 11-25-2003, 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Wildcard
I never buy software, it's gay. Why buy it if I can get it off the net for free?

exactly

Martin · 11-25-2003, 01:25 PM

For certain things yes.

darksoft · 11-25-2003, 01:35 PM

You guys whine like pussies when you get chargebacks but think nothing of pirating software... gotta love the 3rd grade mentality of this biz...

gornyhuy · 11-25-2003, 01:41 PM

Seems like the biggest most expensive software is usually
a)server based
b)installed by the vendor
c)nearly impossible to find online
d)not very crackable
Thats what I wind up paying $hundreds and even $thousands for.

All the cheaper software seems to flow like cheap-ass box wine on the net.

brand0n · 11-25-2003, 01:52 PM

they charge for software?

doober · 11-26-2003, 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by notjoe

you and i both

Speak of the fucking Devil!!!!

Check out this Spam I just received lol

first item

Microsoft Windows XP Professional 2002

$39.95
Retail price: $270.95
Our low Price: $39.95
! You Save: $236

I guess NBDesign was RIGHT and its really possible.....

brizzad · 11-26-2003, 10:28 AM

that website got me horney, doober

MicroSoft 2003 Advanced server
$99.95
Retail price: $3959.95
Our low Price: $99.95
! You Save: $3860

jimboc · 11-26-2003, 10:30 AM

I use:

http://suprnova.web.siol.com/list_torrents/apps.html

of course you need the bit torrent tiny program to be able to download stuff.

jawanda · 11-26-2003, 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by notjoe

I can go out and buy a shirt, or shoes, or pants and if i dont like them tomorrow i can bring them back. If i order food i dont like i can send it back.

So, if i dont like the software i buy why the hell cant i return it? If stores changed their return policy so that you COULD return software that doesnt quite suit your needs (just like i can return a shirt i dont like) you're fucking right I'll try before i buy.

Same thing with PS2 Games.. You know how many games i have sitting here that i bought because they looked cool on the package only to play them and find out they're just a fraction of what the box hypes them up to be. Now they sit here and are 50-70 Beer Coasters (i dont play them anyways).

Sure, i could then sell the software i buy but at what cost? Getting a 3rd of what i paid for it? fuck that too

Yeah I like to 'try before I buy' too, ever heard of ShareWare?

It is the industries' response to this exact problem. Until (it will never happen) they find a way to make it impossible to copy software (and PS games) a "try before you buy" return policy is the same as giving there shit away for free.

One thing I stubmled across the other day that I think is great:

http://globalscape.com/downloads/

You can buy a "one day pass" to use their software for 99 cents. Innovative shit, I hope it makes 'em some money.

fletcher · 11-26-2003, 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by doober

Speak of the fucking Devil!!!!

Check out this Spam I just received lol

first item

Microsoft Windows XP Professional 2002

$39.95
Retail price: $270.95
Our low Price: $39.95
! You Save: $236

I guess NBDesign was RIGHT and its really possible.....

Yeah...check out their WHOIS info. They're in Russia

I actually knew someone dumb enough to buy about $1,500 in software from a company like that (might've been them) and he wired them the money. Never heard from them again.

fuzebox · 11-26-2003, 12:42 PM

All my software is free anyway.

- AFN - · 11-26-2003, 08:01 PM

There are certain software titles you should pay for. In particular, the ones that are coded to "ping" piracy prevention servers. Example: MS SQL

Sly_RJ · 11-26-2003, 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by notjoe
I pirate software all the time. I am fed up with spending hundreds if not thousands on software which turns out not to do what you want it to do or doesnt do what it says it will do on the box.

Once i try the software and if i actually like it/it works for me then i'll actually go out and buy it.

Think about it. What if you actually bought every peice of software which you didnt use more than once or twice because it lacks what you need or the quality of it is just pure shit?

Example, Adobe Premiere. I installed it, launched it once and never used it again, should i have to pay for something i cant use? I dont think so. I bought photoshop though because i use that quite often.

Isn't that what trials are for? I've paid for all the software on my computer. I don't pay unless I give it a try first. Maybe the graphics and movie editing programs don't have trials, I really don't know.

I bought a couple X-Box games that I don't really like. But I'm not whining about it either. I should have rented the games first. Again, trials are great. Just look at how we make our money, from trials.

zentz · 11-26-2003, 08:16 PM

i'we bought only one orginal cd with software, it was a game called st.thomas, nobody ever heard about it and you cant even find it on google. i payed 3$ for it.

Ic3m4nZ · 11-26-2003, 08:17 PM

Why pay when you can have any software within 30 seconds free?

BrentD · 11-26-2003, 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by doober

Speak of the fucking Devil!!!!

Check out this Spam I just received lol

first item

Microsoft Windows XP Professional 2002

$39.95
Retail price: $270.95
Our low Price: $39.95
! You Save: $236

I guess NBDesign was RIGHT and its really possible.....

No box, No Manual, all you get is a copy of the software for $34.95???????

Why even pay $34.95 when you can download the same shit from Kazaa and be jsut as legal (definate pun inserted here).

If your going pirate software at least download it for free and not pay some other guy for it that downloaded it off kazaa hahaha.

BrentD · 11-26-2003, 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jimboc
I use:

http://suprnova.web.siol.com/list_torrents/apps.html

of course you need the bit torrent tiny program to be able to download stuff.

SuperNova reports like a Mofo

mryellow · 11-26-2003, 09:19 PM

This is a business. Pay for your tools.

Most of the really cool programs are just $25.

Pick and choose which big packages you really need. When you
buy them you get support and updates with less bugs.

-Ben

GapingWound · 11-26-2003, 09:41 PM

I got lucky when I started in the IT world.
The company I got hired by bought me a pentium 133 w/800MB hard drive and a ATI Mach 64, 3D Studio Rev 4, Photoshop 2.5, and a number of other graphics apps so I could work from home.

A year later, our parent company was doing poorly, so they dropped our project, and literally told all the employees (all 4 of us) to keep everything, they were going to write it off on their taxes. I have been upgrading most of the software ever since.
(I still have the 133, it's currently a recipe server under my kitchen counter in case I forget how to make something)

I haven't done much professional graphics work since about 98, but I still enjoy it as a hobby, and one of the non-adult companies I'm affiliated with is fleshing out an MMORPG. We'll see how that turns out.

Oracle Porn · 11-26-2003, 09:49 PM

I PAID THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS FOR ALL MY CDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ALL REAL!

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11-25-2003, 06:35 AM	#9
notjoe Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 5,599	I pirate software all the time. I am fed up with spending hundreds if not thousands on software which turns out not to do what you want it to do or doesnt do what it says it will do on the box. Once i try the software and if i actually like it/it works for me then i'll actually go out and buy it. Think about it. What if you actually bought every peice of software which you didnt use more than once or twice because it lacks what you need or the quality of it is just pure shit? Example, Adobe Premiere. I installed it, launched it once and never used it again, should i have to pay for something i cant use? I dont think so. I bought photoshop though because i use that quite often.

11-25-2003, 08:34 AM	#13
blazin Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 2,781	Yes, for software for my mainstream business we always pay for the license... There are very hefty fines for companies using pirate software in the UK. Most of us in development use Windows 98 for our desktops in anycase which is fairly cheap. All our servers are running Linux, with the exception of a couple of Sun's Sparcs. I would actually move to Linux for my desktop if I could use Dreamweaver on it.

11-25-2003, 10:57 AM	#14
loverboy When it rains, it pours Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 20,609	you can get it here for as low as $6-10 for a software copy, name your software. unless you want to get it for free, if youre broke... use Kazaa. I know most people share alot of sotwares out there.

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11-25-2003, 11:35 AM	#25
who So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: ICQ #23642053 Posts: 19,593	I think we're supporting the people who made the software enough just by USING the damn stuff. PAYING for it is supporting the guy who owns the company.. and if he owns a company he's obviously rich enough anyway Next thing Microsoft will try to do is make a crappy OS with security like a bucket of swiss cheese and then sell it cheaply, and charge people for the hotfixes it supplies ever few weeks. Thieves! All of them!!

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11-26-2003, 08:01 PM	#38
- AFN - Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: NYC Baaaabeee Posts: 3,101	There are certain software titles you should pay for. In particular, the ones that are coded to "ping" piracy prevention servers. Example: MS SQL

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zentz Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 8,053	i'we bought only one orginal cd with software, it was a game called st.thomas, nobody ever heard about it and you cant even find it on google. i payed 3$ for it.

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GapingWound Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 96	I got lucky when I started in the IT world. The company I got hired by bought me a pentium 133 w/800MB hard drive and a ATI Mach 64, 3D Studio Rev 4, Photoshop 2.5, and a number of other graphics apps so I could work from home. A year later, our parent company was doing poorly, so they dropped our project, and literally told all the employees (all 4 of us) to keep everything, they were going to write it off on their taxes. I have been upgrading most of the software ever since. (I still have the 133, it's currently a recipe server under my kitchen counter in case I forget how to make something) I haven't done much professional graphics work since about 98, but I still enjoy it as a hobby, and one of the non-adult companies I'm affiliated with is fleshing out an MMORPG. We'll see how that turns out.

11-26-2003, 09:49 PM	#46
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