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Old 11-24-2003, 03:00 AM   #1
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:mad FastAdultTraffic and Ozzymosis1 pulling you out!

I'm going to start off with I should have stopped him when i had the chance, but I didn't know he was going through you. You've ripped off too many people for me to just let this go unspoken. There was a web traffic order placed for 5k hits several weeks ago and the person who ordered only just recently in the last two days received 1900 hits to date. Nothing has converted, and in your responce to the angry person who ordered you stated that your reputation is flawless and his marketing methods needed inprovement. Yet you fail to back this up with the password to view the stats you claim through your interface. You say the password isn't available to you? What's going on here.

This is just a heads up to anyone in the market for adult traffic. FADT does not pull through.

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Old 11-24-2003, 03:01 AM   #2
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I will never refer these guys business again, my last client was ripped off by them for $500 and they are refusing to refund (even partially) for the traffic that was NEVER SENT TO THEM.
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Old 11-24-2003, 03:07 AM   #3
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I can't say I was ripped off by these guys. But I won 10k (or was it 5k - I can't remember) of traffic from them on another board.

Well, all good, and when I started receiving the traffic I was pretty stunned to see it stop at around 2,900 unique hits. Definitely not the amount I'd won. When I enquired about it, no reply.

I'm glad I didn't pay for it, not only for the reason above but also because a great majority of the traffic was "bookmark traffic" (probably a hitbot) and a lot derived from a borderline, too extreme russian language web page.
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Old 11-24-2003, 03:08 AM   #4
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I can't say I was ripped off by these guys. But I won 10k (or was it 5k - I can't remember) of traffic from them on another board.

Well, all good, and when I started receiving the traffic I was pretty stunned to see it stop at around 2,900 unique hits. Definitely not the amount I'd won. When I enquired about it, no reply.

I'm glad I didn't pay for it, not only for the reason above but also because a great majority of the traffic was "bookmark traffic" (probably a hitbot) and a lot derived from a borderline, too extreme russian language web page.
yeah this was pretty blatent, and now they won't respond. so much for dignity.
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Old 11-24-2003, 03:09 AM   #5
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I won 10k german traffic from them and thru it out at adult dialer solution.


Thats all i gotta say.
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Old 11-24-2003, 03:10 AM   #6
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Old 11-24-2003, 03:14 AM   #7
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10k there traffic 19k my own. So i can not say it was there traffic. I had no problem with them. They where very helpfull.


I think ADS and Adult traffic are both good companys and I have no problems with either.


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Old 11-24-2003, 03:22 AM   #8
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Old 11-24-2003, 03:27 AM   #9
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Old 11-24-2003, 03:33 AM   #10
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Old 11-24-2003, 04:23 AM   #11
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10k there traffic 19k my own. So i can not say it was there traffic. I had no problem with them. They where very helpfull.


I think ADS and Adult traffic are both good companys and I have no problems with either.


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Old 11-24-2003, 04:32 AM   #12
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Old 11-24-2003, 04:41 AM   #13
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I wasn't putting them down or anything. Just telling my experiences with their traffic. Needless to say I wasn't impressed at all and had I paid for it I would have been all over them - but I hadn't so I don't really think of it.

However, and this goes for anyone purchasing traffic from any broker, make sure you know what to do with the traffic you purchase and make sure you agree with the seller on the exact specifics of your purchase before you actually buy. This'd be the only way you can hold anything against the broker, as he should deliver according to your mutual agreement. If it doesn't work, well, the easy way is to say "oh my, probably my own fault" but when you have the exact agreement in place, you know what the broker promised you and can compare results accordingly

No need to hold a grudge against him over your own misuse of the traffic. Only if it doesn't work as promised given the agreement, go raise h*ll
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Old 11-24-2003, 04:59 AM   #14
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I bought 10k from him but only got 5k (even though his server says 10k, my raw logs say 5k). When I complained he gave me a free 3k on my next order. So I decided to give him another try, bought another 10k (13k total with the 'free' 3k) and again, only got about half of what his tracker said. But I did make some money off of it, so I figured what the hell, let's try it again. I bought 50k the last time, once again, only got about half of the traffic, so I just stopped using him. Regardless of whether it makes money or not, when his traffic program is consistently reporting twice the actual numbers it gets annoying.

Would just like to say that I've been using Traffic-Out and Sexzity with no problems, so they get a
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Old 11-24-2003, 06:57 AM   #15
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This is so fucked-up about this business.... they will close their current sites and start up new ones and continue screwing people.
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Old 11-24-2003, 08:04 AM   #16
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I use FastAdultTraffic for a few countries and the traffic seems to convert pretty well, I agree the traffic counts are alittle low compared to mine but you do have to expect this to a certain extent, dependent on where your stats code is positioned, who you are using as a counter. Raw logs should be pretty close though.

As for a total rip off i dont agree, Ozzymosis does get back to you by Email or ICQ... even though sometimes it takes a couple of days !

5k and no sales, i would look at what your selling and how your selling it.

My point of view.

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Old 11-24-2003, 08:30 PM   #17
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I?m surprised to see these comments about people being unhappy with purchases they?ve made, and happy to see many happy customers posting.

It?s possible that we?ve made a mistake somewhere and it?s also possible that the user made a mistake somewhere.

We?re not going to sit here like Norm Bentley and say that it?s impossible for us to be mistaken or in the wrong, and threaten to sue people who make incorrect and slanderous statements. Even though they are wrong, incorrect, and baseless, we?re not going to threaten our customers just because thy are mistaken.

What we do know is that we haven?t done anything deceitful or scam like in anyway. People buy traffic and aren?t happy with the performance, and instead of coming to us to work through it, they immediately call us scammers and demand their money back. Sorry, we don?t give in to Acacia-like extortion just because some user didn?t know what he was doing and is not willing to take the time to contact us and try to solve the problom.

We?ve had a number of occasions when people have complained about counter statistics and when they fix their counters, or move to something other than foxcounter, find that they are receiving the traffic they paid for, and these customers apologize for their mistakes.

Bottom line is that we?ve been accused of being scammers when we just aren?t, and I don?t know how to convince anyone we aren?t except to point to all of our happy and repeat customers, including a number of high profile traffic brokers who post on this board.

With regards to several statements made in the posts above, they?re just plain wrong. The customer that purchased the banner traffic that ?com? talks about was actually referred to us by ?Konduct?. I don?t recall ever talking with anyone named ?com?. We did say the password isn?t available to us because it?s encrypted in the database. We said we could set the password to a new one or the user could request it via the password retrieval system. This client ordered 5k clicked hits and received 1900 in 1.5 days. Yes, I don?t see what?s wrong with that. Assuming that the remaining 3100 are to be delivered still The ticket about which user ?com? talks about had like 5 back and forths on Sunday afternoon. Our tech support asked him for logs, they never got the logs to review. I just checked the ticket and he wants to send us all the logs instead of the referrer logs for which our tech support guy asked. This is fine, send the logs and our tech support will take the time to go through all of them.

The frustration is that we publish our terms of service and require users to agree to them in advance. One of the primary agreements is that the user agrees to use our traffic counters. We?ve had too many issues with users screwing up their log analysis programs, assuming they?re buying unique hits instead of raw hits, or assuming that their out-sourced overloaded counter service provider is accurate to spend 10 hours explaining how web servers work to every person who runs into problems or unreasonable expectations.

We have and will continue to support all of our customers and deal with any issues that arise, including any discrepancies between our counters and theirs.

In this situation, we?ve got a user ?com? using Acacia like tactics to say that we?re scamming, when we?re just not, and it?s pretty hard, and logically impossible to prove a negative. So take things as you wish, but we?re not scamming anyone, we?re providing quality traffic at a quality price, and plan to be around for a long time.
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I use FastAdultTraffic for a few countries and the traffic seems to convert pretty well, I agree the traffic counts are alittle low compared to mine but you do have to expect this to a certain extent, dependent on where your stats code is positioned, who you are using as a counter. Raw logs should be pretty close though.

As for a total rip off i dont agree, Ozzymosis does get back to you by Email or ICQ... even though sometimes it takes a couple of days !

5k and no sales, i would look at what your selling and how your selling it.

My point of view.

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