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Smokey The Bear · 11-23-2003, 05:58 PM

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Originally posted by Battuss

I can tell you 1 thing for sure, our news about Iraq is way more honest than you guys see on cnn. believe me on that one.

We tend to see more whats really going on...how the Iraqi's are suffering...the losses of the Americans..the country that is being destroyed etc etc.
Ofcourse they wont show it like that on American channels. Bush already has a tough time defending himself..

blah blah blah we see all that on the news too. Do you watch any of it or are you just guessing ?

We get body counts every day and everytime an american is killed we hear about it 5 seconds later.

We see the suffering of the iraqi's as well but we are also smart enough to know that the suffering is less than the dictatorship that they previously went thru.

You anti-american scum have only one agenda and thats too spin everything around to make americans look bad , all for the same reason. BECAUSE OF YOUR JEALOUSY.

Nobody claimed to be perfect but at least the americans are actually doing something about it instead of hiding their heads in the sand like everyone else while terrorists figure out how to ruin the world.

Smokey The Bear · 11-23-2003, 06:02 PM

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Originally posted by Centurion

And this benefits the American people HOW?

And if you say "hey, we've helped out these people out" as your reason for the US being there..then why don't we just invade all the countries in the world with down and out people?

UM did you see 9/11 on the news ? do you understand that these people would rather kill the whole world than let the americans live in peace. ?

The americans step in when someone is on the verge of ruining the earth , and thats exactly what they did.

And yes to answer your question , if one dictator is fucking up a whole nation then yes the americans are giving you people a warning they will step in and put a stop to it PERIOD , why because they are the most powerfull nation on earth. And have an obligation to share democracy and peace with the rest of the world.

directfiesta · 11-23-2003, 06:03 PM

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Originally posted by Smokey The Bear

Stop posting complete crap you inbred sack of turd.

START POSTING FACTS OR LISTEN TO OTHERS OPINIONS

i happen to not be in U.S.A and i happen to get you channels on sattelite, so im vey well informed of what your news reporters report. And im also informed on the slant they put on things just as U.S.A. does on stories as well.

You need to take all the facts and base your opinion on them , not just one narrow minded opinion of ONE news statin or country who may or may not have their own agenda on why they report something. Sometimes the bigger news is in what is NOT being reported not in what is being reported.

I happen to know some iraqi's with ACTUAL FAMILIES LIVING IN IRAQ RIGHT NOW , so quit spouting your ego-maniac opinions. And start listening to what people have to say. THERE IS MORE FOOD IN IRAQ NOW *FACT*.

The fact that you think your news media tells the truth any more than anyone else's news media tells me your on a one-track thought process that cant even listen to anything but what is fed into your ears.

And dont tell me what the usa media reports unless you get your facts straight.

There are plenty of other news sources other than cnn and reuters and they show plenty of suffering and despair, but the misery and suffering before america was there was much worse.

The mobs you see in the street are the same mobs you would see here if all hell broke loose.

As someone pointed out . Most iraqi's are glad saddam is gone and are happy the americans are there.

Happy people dont go out into crowds of degenerates, those people are the people saddam let out of prison shortly before the war began. He let out all the murderes rapists etc. basically cleared the prisons.

You write a lot, say a lot, but nothing is backed up: no source ( aside from some iraqi ).

Post links or studies about the " more food theory"... or shut up.

directfiesta · 11-23-2003, 06:04 PM

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Originally posted by Smokey The Bear

UM did you see 9/11 on the news ? do you understand that these people would rather kill the whole world than let the americans live in peace. ?

Who are " these people "...

Oh yes, I forgot: the 9/11 terrorist were Iraqis,,,

You are clueless...

theking · 11-23-2003, 06:06 PM

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Originally posted by Smokey The Bear

Stop posting complete crap you inbred sack of turd.

START POSTING FACTS OR LISTEN TO OTHERS OPINIONS

i happen to not be in U.S.A and i happen to get you channels on sattelite, so im vey well informed of what your news reporters report. And im also informed on the slant they put on things just as U.S.A. does on stories as well.

You need to take all the facts and base your opinion on them , not just one narrow minded opinion of ONE news statin or country who may or may not have their own agenda on why they report something. Sometimes the bigger news is in what is NOT being reported not in what is being reported.

I happen to know some iraqi's with ACTUAL FAMILIES LIVING IN IRAQ RIGHT NOW , so quit spouting your ego-maniac opinions. And start listening to what people have to say. THERE IS MORE FOOD IN IRAQ NOW *FACT*.

The fact that you think your news media tells the truth any more than anyone else's news media tells me your on a one-track thought process that cant even listen to anything but what is fed into your ears.

And dont tell me what the usa media reports unless you get your facts straight.

There are plenty of other news sources other than cnn and reuters and they show plenty of suffering and despair, but the misery and suffering before america was there was much worse.

The mobs you see in the street are the same mobs you would see here if all hell broke loose.

As someone pointed out . Most iraqi's are glad saddam is gone and are happy the americans are there.

Happy people dont go out into crowds of degenerates, those people are the people saddam let out of prison shortly before the war began. He let out all the murderes rapists etc. basically cleared the prisons.

directfiesta · 11-23-2003, 06:06 PM

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Originally posted by Smokey The Bear

And yes to answer your question , if one dictator is fucking up a whole nation then yes the americans are giving you people a warning they will step in and put a stop to it PERIOD , why because they are the most powerfull nation on earth. And have an obligation to share democracy and peace with the rest of the world.

Going into Rwanda soon ( 3 millions deads ) ?

The rest is the same clueless crap.

Smokey The Bear · 11-23-2003, 06:08 PM

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Originally posted by Maru
The difference between US TV news and European TV news:

* The US TV stations are based on selling commercials <=> The European TV stations are often paid for by yearly fees that all with a telly have to pay.

* US TV therefore has to give the viewers tons of "Breaking News", "This just in", "Live from Baghdad" in order to hold the fickle interest of the viewers <=> European TV can take its time to tell the whole story, even if it takes one hour or more - without ad breaks.

* The result: I learnt more about the first Gulf war by watching one hour of German TV than one month of CNN. (I gave my TV away since then).

I see that makes perfect sense. The media lies to people to sell more commercials.

Your facts on european tv stations are totally inaccurate.

Your facts on american tv are even more inaccurate.

Do you watch american tv ?. NO you said you gave your tv away.

Do you think america only has cnn ?? we have hundreds and hundreds of channels with each their own spin on things.

Guess what , people in america make fun of cnn too .

You learned what german tv wanted you to learn. Other than that you havent learned much at all.

Try using more than one source for your media and understand why democracy works and why we dont all fall into the same trap the third world countries do.

Smokey The Bear · 11-23-2003, 06:11 PM

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Originally posted by directfiesta

Who are " these people "...

Oh yes, I forgot: the 9/11 terrorist were Iraqis,,,

You are clueless...

Yes they were paid by iraqi's just as saddam paid the families of every suicide bomber that blew up innocent jewish families.

get your facts straight pal before you spew more crap that we already know.

Smokey The Bear · 11-23-2003, 06:14 PM

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Originally posted by directfiesta

You write a lot, say a lot, but nothing is backed up: no source ( aside from some iraqi ).

Post links or studies about the " more food theory"... or shut up.

I watched iraqi's throwing away food drops that the u.n. gave out because they didnt like the taste of it. Gee that sounds like starving people to me.

I see reports everday about iraq and i dont see any starving people.

The sanctions on iraq are lifted and i see food pouring across the borders.

FACT FACT FACT now show me the facts that backup your poor starving iraqi's theory.

theking · 11-23-2003, 06:18 PM

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Originally posted by directfiesta

You write a lot, say a lot, but nothing is backed up: no source ( aside from some iraqi ).

Post links or studies about the " more food theory"... or shut up.

Well...I saw an hour long report a week or so ago that basically...took one on a tour around Baghdad. There was traffic on the streets...many expensive cars...the outdoor shops were overloaded with food...of all types...the stores were open...and many of them had quality jewerly...quality western apparrel...appliances etc...and the reporter stopped in a Juice cafe and had a Juice prepared and the Juice cafe seemed to be doing a good business. All of the Iraqi's in the shops and on the streets were openly friendly...all were well dressed and appeared to be quite well fed. The only concern they expressed to the reporter was the criminal element that was on the loose and many of them either stayed the night or had someone stay the night in their businesses to guard against the criminal element. The damage around Baghdad was minimal in the sense that the majority of buildings...stores...etc. were in tact. Bottom line Baghdad appeared to be alive...and thriving.

directfiesta · 11-23-2003, 06:20 PM

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Originally posted by Smokey The Bear

Yes they were paid by iraqi's just as saddam paid the families of every suicide bomber that blew up innocent jewish families.

get your facts straight pal before you spew more crap that we already know.

You should call the CIA NOW and give them that info... They were under the impression that it was Saudis...

But they have soi lousy intelligence... to compare to yours....

WHAT A TALKING IDIOT YOU ARE...

Show your proofs...

EVERY suicide bombers paid by Saddam... You are living in a Meth world... go get another dose... fast.

Smokey The Bear · 11-23-2003, 06:20 PM

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Originally posted by theking

Well...I saw an hour long report a week or so ago that basically...took one on a tour around Baghdad. There was traffic on the streets...many expensive cars...the outdoor shops were overloaded with food...of all types...the stores were open...and many of them had quality jewerly...quality western apparrel...appliances etc...and the reporter stopped in a Juice cafe and had a Juice prepared and the Juice cafe seemed to be doing a good business. All of the Iraqi's in the shops and on the streets were openly friendly...all were well dressed and appeared to be quite well fed. The only concern they expressed to the reporter was the criminal element that was on the loose and many of them either stayed the night or had someone stay the night in their businesses to guard against the criminal element. The damage around Baghdad was minimal in the sense that the majority of buildings...stores...etc. were in tact. Bottom line Baghdad appeared to be alive...and thriving.

Nope im sure cnn just staged all that, they brought in americans painted their faces brown and gave them all food then took it all away after the show was finished. LOL

Gee i saw the same reports and not once did i see any starving iraqi's with malnourished children running around. Imagine that.

Maru · 11-23-2003, 06:22 PM

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Originally posted by Smokey The Bear

Try using more than one source for your media and understand why democracy works and why we dont all fall into the same trap the third world countries do.

I get my news from just about everywhere: Media in Scandinavia, USA, Germany, France, Italy, etc, etc. For example, I can see the skirmishes between USA and France/Germany from BOTH sides by reading stuff both in American and French/German newspapers and magazines.

Yes - I gave my TV away - Internet is so much better - and books and printed news make you think more than watching the tube.

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You learned what german tv wanted you to learn. Other than that you havent learned much at all.

I got one hour of coherent news: What happened - what was the background, etc and not this incessant "We have to take a commercial break, stay tuned".

Smokey The Bear · 11-23-2003, 06:23 PM

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Originally posted by directfiesta

You should call the CIA NOW and give them that info... They were under the impression that it was Saudis...

But they have soi lousy intelligence... to compare to yours....

WHAT A TALKING IDIOT YOU ARE...

Show your proofs...

EVERY suicide bombers paid by Saddam... You are living in a Meth world... go get another dose... fast.

I guess your media is leaving out some of the facts eh. I guess your not nearly as informed as you thought you were.

Saddam admitted paying suicide bombers to kill innocent jewish families.

The passports of the actual bombers have nothing to do with who was behind it. or why.

They were trained in syria and iraq among other places.

WHAT an ill informed jealous moron you are.

theking · 11-23-2003, 06:23 PM

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Originally posted by Centurion

60-70% of HOW many Iraqis took this poll?
And were the GI's standing their with their loaded weapons by chance at the same time?

Yeah..I want to base decisions based on a poll in Iraq!

News flash...you are not in a decision making position...the administration has left you out of the loop. Of course you can decide to take your many complaints to the voting booth.

Smokey The Bear · 11-23-2003, 06:24 PM

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/03/25/1017004766310.html

Saddam stokes war with suicide bomber cash
March 26 2002

The Iraqi leader's payments to the families of dead Palestinian terrorists means more trouble for Yasser Arafat, writes Paul McGeough in the West Bank.

The hall was packed and the intake of breath was audible as a special announcement was made to the war widows of the West Bank - Saddam Hussein would pay $US25,000 ($47,000) to the family of each suicide bomber as an enticement for others to volunteer for martyrdom in the name of the Palestinian people.

theking · 11-23-2003, 06:30 PM

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Originally posted by Battuss

I can tell you 1 thing for sure, our news about Iraq is way more honest than you guys see on cnn. believe me on that one.

We tend to see more whats really going on...how the Iraqi's are suffering...the losses of the Americans..the country that is being destroyed etc etc.
Ofcourse they wont show it like that on American channels. Bush already has a tough time defending himself..

Question...is your News Media more honest than...Canada's News Media...or the Great Britains BBC...or is it that Holland has the only truely reliable News Media?

Smokey The Bear · 11-23-2003, 06:30 PM

The wife and children of John O'Neill, who died in the attack on the World Trade Center, allege that Iraq began communicating with al Qaeda as early as 1992, provided training to Osama bin Laden's warriors and sent intelligence agents to work with the terror network in Afghanistan.

The evidence, the sources said, includes statements by Iraqi defectors and al Qaeda prisoners that Iraqi intelligence provided al Qaeda with training in document forgery and chemical and biological weapons in a series of contacts that spiked in 1996, and again after 1998.

In its lawsuit, which was filed quietly last month in U.S. District Court, the O'Neill family says its information was gleaned from documents uncovered in Afghanistan and Iraq as recently as a few months ago, as well as information from interrogations of al Qaeda and Iraqi prisoners.

Smokey The Bear · 11-23-2003, 06:33 PM

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Originally posted by theking

Question...is your News Media more honest than...Canada's News Media...or the Great Britains BBC...or is it that Holland has the only truely reliable News Media?

i think this is the point that this guy doesnt get. You need to take ALL the sources COLLECTIVLY to have an INFORMED decision not just watch one government sponsored tv show and repeat it as if it were the only one out there

directfiesta · 11-23-2003, 06:33 PM

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Originally posted by Smokey The Bear

I guess your media is leaving out some of the facts eh. I guess your not nearly as informed as you thought you were.

Saddam admitted paying suicide bombers to kill innocent jewish families.

The passports of the actual bombers have nothing to do with who was behind it. or why.

They were trained in syria and iraq among other places.

WHAT an ill informed jealous moron you are.

FYI, I have 250 stations on Direct YV aside from my local 60 stations... and you?

Saddam has offered... I pointed out your "EVERY" : you obviously didn;t notice the caps, so now it is bold...

LOL! They mostly came from Saudia Arabia, that either dioesn't count

Source of training in Iraq??? Do a google...

Not jealous at all, to the contrary.

Now for your food crap:

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Cost of living and earnings
Before the war, 60% of Iraqis depended heavily on government food hand-outs. Humanitarian organisations say the situation has only got worse. They report much higher unemployment and disruption to the food distribution programmes.

Prices for some goods are up, but not all. Earnings for those in work are up dramatically.

The is a whole presentation of the situation NOW in Iraq:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_depth/...q/default.stm#

You just have to look down at " Life in Iraq"...

Show your sources of your fairy tale.

Smokey The Bear · 11-23-2003, 06:35 PM

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Originally posted by Maru

I got one hour of coherent news: What happened - what was the background, etc and not this incessant "We have to take a commercial break, stay tuned".

Yes that about sums up your whole argument you watched one hour of tv and thought that you were well informed.

Then you gave away your tv because the internet is more reliable .

Have you read anything that was posted here ?

Try doing that instead of promoting your anti-american agenda.

Smokey The Bear · 11-23-2003, 06:42 PM

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Originally posted by directfiesta
FYI, I have 250 stations on Direct YV aside from my local 60 stations... and you?

Saddam has offered... I pointed out your "EVERY" : you obviously didn;t notice the caps, so now it is bold...

LOL! They mostly came from Saudia Arabia, that either dioesn't count

Source of training in Iraq??? Do a google...

Not jealous at all, to the contrary.

Now for your food crap:

I have the same tv you do as we live rather close.

Saddam offered EVERY suicide bomber cash to kill innocent people yes. ( im not sure why you re stated what i already told you but yes he did and he did it on national tv as well

Your food quote stated my point exactly thanks for again offering the same thing i already stated . Iraqis get more food now than they did before.

I already posted above about al-queda camps in iraq try reading it or do a google search yourself. oh my look at all the sources. even the great bbc.

Start reading the facts and stop spouting your anti-american crud.

You dont have to like america to actually read the facts.

Smokey The Bear · 11-23-2003, 06:44 PM

I dont like alot of things that america does , but that doesnt mean i make up lies to try and make them look bad. You should try reading and paying attention to those 300+ channels you get and stop ignoring the obvious.

sacX · 11-23-2003, 06:45 PM

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Originally posted by Smokey The Bear

Yes that about sums up your whole argument you watched one hour of tv and thought that you were well informed.

Then you gave away your tv because the internet is more reliable .

Have you read anything that was posted here ?

Try doing that instead of promoting your anti-american agenda.

not supporting the war is not anti-american. It's anti *THIS* administration. There is not less terrorism in the world now than there was pre-911 (awaits theking to mention no CONUS attacks).

nosey · 11-23-2003, 06:47 PM

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Originally posted by Battuss

Please dude, im still waiting, say something useful as a reply to my post about you ignoring metaman but attacking me.

Please dude, show me how smart you are.

02:49 PM MetaMan
02:49 PM rooster

Smokey The Bear · 11-23-2003, 06:52 PM

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Originally posted by sacX

not supporting the war is not anti-american. It's anti *THIS* administration. There is not less terrorism in the world now than there was pre-911 (awaits theking to mention no CONUS attacks).

No but making up lies to support your theory is anti-american , and so far i have seen plenty of lies . go read up this thread i posted facts on everything i have said. i have yet to see any of you ANTI-AMERICAN scum post anything but a bbc page with nothing to do with food.

The food argument is over look up nobody has offered one starving iraqi story yet.

The saddam link to al-queda is also posted above

The saddam paying bombers to blow up jewish families source was also posted above, and well known to informed people.

I think you anti-american scum have been proven wrong on every point so far.

And also have shown nothing but slander and third-party government run news paraquotes to support your agenda.

It all boils down to this. YOUR JEALOUS GET OVER IT.

Move to america or quit crying like a bunch of babies

Smokey The Bear · 11-23-2003, 06:57 PM

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Originally posted by sacX

There is not less terrorism in the world now than there was pre-911

Nobody claimed there was.

Angry jealous people react when they are overthrown . That is why we have seen an increase in terrorism.

I dont think these days will end soon either , but instead of waiting and hoping americans are DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

If we waited for the u.n. to react we would all be sucking back al-queda juice by now.

directfiesta · 11-23-2003, 06:59 PM

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Originally posted by Smokey The Bear

No but making up lies to support your theory is anti-american , and so far i have seen plenty of lies . go read up this thread i posted facts on everything i have said. i have yet to see any of you ANTI-AMERICAN scum post anything but a bbc page with nothing to do with food.

Your past your bedtime... Kneel down, do your prayer to Georgie an get a good night sleep to be in scholl tomorrow....

Point to lies...

Point to your Posted facts

PS: How to use the internet:

- Enter URL in browser
- Press ENTER
- Look at page
- Go to near bottom, where it says: Life in Iraq
Living conditions and reconstruction needs
- Click on open. New window opens. Read and click to get to next page. Do that till page 8. rtead about Food and the great conditions of life.

PS: YES BBC lies, you don't...lol

PS: The TV stations I get have nothing to do how " close" we may live. It is satellite (DTV) ...

theking · 11-23-2003, 07:00 PM

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Originally posted by Smokey The Bear
I dont like alot of things that america does , but that doesnt mean i make up lies to try and make them look bad. You should try reading and paying attention to those 300+ channels you get and stop ignoring the obvious.

That is my position...I too do not like alot of things that America does...but I have little tolerance for those America haters and bashers that are mis-informed and post half truths...or total BS...and I have zero tolerance for the haters that are jealous of America being the richest most powerful nation the world has ever known. Though they deny it...it is pure jealousy...and it comes across nine by nine. Damn...am I glad that I do not live in an insignificant country like Holland.

directfiesta · 11-23-2003, 07:07 PM

Herew are some lies or half truth, reported by an arab newspaper situated in a terrorist camp:

"THe Boston Globe"

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Cheney link of Iraq, 9/11 challenged
By Anne E. Kornblut and Bryan Bender , Globe Staff and Globe Correspondent, 9/16/2003

WASHINGTON -- Vice President Dick Cheney, anxious to defend the White House foreign policy amid ongoing violence in Iraq, stunned intelligence analysts and even members of his own administration this week by failing to dismiss a widely discredited claim: that Saddam Hussein might have played a role in the Sept. 11 attacks.

Evidence of a connection, if any exists, has never been made public. Details that Cheney cited to make the case that the Iraqi dictator had ties to Al Qaeda have been dismissed by the CIA as having no basis, according to analysts and officials. Even before the war in Iraq, most Bush officials did not explicitly state that Iraq had a part in the attack on the United States two years ago.

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/ar...11_challenged/

Show me a link of your fairy tale that Iraq was responsible, behing, sponsor or whatever you want to call it ( I know you TheKing with your precise word playing.. when it suits you)...

sacX · 11-23-2003, 07:08 PM

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Originally posted by theking

There is little to no trouble in the North and little to no trouble in the South...which constitutes 70-80 percent of Iraq. It is in the "Sunni Triangle" where 90 plus percent of the trouble is occuring...and it is there that the majority of the former Baathists and Saddam loyalists reside.

Tell that to the citizens of Istanbul. Wonder what arguments recruiters are using to get new suicide bombers?

sacX · 11-23-2003, 07:12 PM

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Originally posted by theking

That is my position...I too do not like alot of things that America does...but I have little tolerance for those America haters and bashers that are mis-informed and post half truths...or total BS...and I have zero tolerance for the haters that are jealous of America being the richest most powerful nation the world has ever known. Though they deny it...it is pure jealousy...and it comes across nine by nine. Damn...am I glad that I do not live in an insignificant country like Holland.

seriously, you are deluded if you think anti-war people are jealous of the United States.

Gemini · 11-23-2003, 07:17 PM

You can't go on any one media outlet, no matter what country they are in... All of those companies adopt the slant that their owner holds. Pure and simple. Their editors see to it that every word holds with that angle or they are no linger employed. Its been that way for hundreds of years.

2 pages of bickering over what country is right, whe truth to tell is no one country COULD be right. Just listen to the same days news from 2-3-4 stations in your own city....

theking · 11-23-2003, 07:24 PM

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Originally posted by sacX

seriously, you are deluded if you think anti-war people are jealous of the United States.

Explain to me where in my post do you draw that inferrence? Seriously...do you and Centurion share a commonality? A comprehension problem. Read what I posted...not what you think I posted.

Rochard · 11-23-2003, 07:26 PM

Did the fucking news in Europe display the burning oil wells as Iraq fled Kuwait?

sacX · 11-23-2003, 07:35 PM

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Originally posted by RocHard
Did the fucking news in Europe display the burning oil wells as Iraq fled Kuwait?

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who gives a fuck? of course they did.

sacX · 11-23-2003, 07:35 PM

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Originally posted by theking

Explain to me where in my post do you draw that inferrence? Seriously...do you and Centurion share a commonality? A comprehension problem. Read what I posted...not what you think I posted.

you were thinking it

. Perhaps I should have quoted Smokey instead.

theking · 11-23-2003, 07:46 PM

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Originally posted by sacX

you were thinking it . Perhaps I should have quoted Smokey instead.

Wrong...I personally have never known a person in my life that is not "anti war"...including myself. I have engaged in three different combat operations...which includes the 1st Gulf War and I am particularly "anti war"...but being "anti war" does not mean that there is never a justification for war. I am of the opinion that the global war on "terroists" that was declared by the US after 9/11 is justified and it is my opinion that Iraq is a part and extention of the global war.

Mr.Fiction · 11-23-2003, 08:02 PM

Smokey the Bear = The King/Pathfinder?

theking · 11-23-2003, 08:20 PM

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Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
Smokey the Bear = The King/Pathfinder?

Your nic is appropriate.

Centurion · 11-23-2003, 08:24 PM

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Originally posted by Smokey The Bear

UM did you see 9/11 on the news ? do you understand that these people would rather kill the whole world than let the americans live in peace. ?

Daaahm...so much stuff here..almost don't know where to start.
Ok..FOR STARTERS..you is saying it was Iraq that attacked us on 9/11/02? This IS what you mean by "these people" don't you?

Or are you being a racist and saying this about ALL Arabs?

Either way..what fucked thinking on your part!

Centurion · 11-23-2003, 08:27 PM

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Originally posted by Smokey The Bear

And yes to answer your question , if one dictator is fucking up a whole nation then yes the americans are giving you people a warning they will step in and put a stop to it PERIOD , why because they are the most powerfull nation on earth. And have an obligation to share democracy and peace with the rest of the world.

Let's see..we have 130,000 combat troops in Iraq and are stretched so thin NOW..we're calling up the National Guard.

Just WHERE do you propose we get the manpower, firepower, and MONEY to take over 3/4 of the rest of the world to "make it safe for democracy"?

We have an OBLIGATION TO SHARE DEMOCRACY. "Excuse noble people of this ancient land as we kill your leaders and put those that disagree with us in prison. It's our OBLIGATION to overthrow your government and force OUR way of life & government on you!

Just where the FUCK did that "Obligation" come from? The Constitution? The Bible? Rush Limbaugh?

Centurion · 11-23-2003, 08:30 PM

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Originally posted by Smokey The Bear

Yes they were paid by iraqi's just as saddam paid the families of every suicide bomber that blew up innocent jewish families.

get your facts straight pal before you spew more crap that we already know.

Ok Dude..you just hung yourself (and I'm not talking about your dick size!) with this post.

Just where did you get such exceptional information that the Iraqi's paid for 9/11?

Come on you coward..bet you don't answer this question. WHERE is the proof to back your statement? Post that..or are you truly the pussy you purport to be!

Centurion · 11-23-2003, 08:32 PM

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Originally posted by theking

Well...I saw an hour long report a week or so ago that basically...took one on a tour around Baghdad. There was traffic on the streets...many expensive cars...the outdoor shops were overloaded with food...of all types...the stores were open...and many of them had quality jewerly...quality western apparrel...appliances etc...and the reporter stopped in a Juice cafe and had a Juice prepared and the Juice cafe seemed to be doing a good business. All of the Iraqi's in the shops and on the streets were openly friendly...all were well dressed and appeared to be quite well fed. The only concern they expressed to the reporter was the criminal element that was on the loose and many of them either stayed the night or had someone stay the night in their businesses to guard against the criminal element. The damage around Baghdad was minimal in the sense that the majority of buildings...stores...etc. were in tact. Bottom line Baghdad appeared to be alive...and thriving.

And of course, this ONE TOUR proves the REST of Iraq is just like what you saw on this tour.

So if I took you through Beverly Hills, I could say "The rest of California, including South Central L.A. is just like this!"?

Give me a fuckin' break.

Centurion · 11-23-2003, 08:36 PM

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Originally posted by Smokey The Bear
The wife and children of John O'Neill, who died in the attack on the World Trade Center, allege that Iraq began communicating with al Qaeda as early as 1992, provided training to Osama bin Laden's warriors and sent intelligence agents to work with the terror network in Afghanistan.

THIS is your "source": The wife & children of someone killed in the World Trade Center?

Hold the presses..the fucking CIA got it all wrong again!!

P.S. Did you know that Osama bin Laden HATED Hussein and was actually admonishing the Iraqi people to get rid of him?

jimmyf · 11-23-2003, 08:59 PM

Smokey The Bear....theking you have some people here that can watch or listen 2 the news and hear what ever they want 2 hear.

You might as well go outside find a pile of rocks and talk to it, because these people sure as hell are dumber.

theking · 11-23-2003, 08:59 PM

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Originally posted by Centurion

And of course, this ONE TOUR proves the REST of Iraq is just like what you saw on this tour.

You...of course...are wrong again.

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So if I took you through Beverly Hills, I could say "The rest of California, including South Central L.A. is just like this!"?

Give me a fuckin' break.

You could say that...but of course...you would be wrong again.

theking · 11-23-2003, 09:06 PM

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Originally posted by Centurion

P.S. Did you know that Osama bin Laden HATED Hussein and was actually admonishing the Iraqi people to get rid of him?

When did your friend Osama provide you with this information...was it recently?

theking · 11-23-2003, 09:14 PM

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Originally posted by jimmyf
Smokey The Bear....theking you have some people here that can watch or listen 2 the news and hear what ever they want 2 hear.

You might as well go outside find a pile of rocks and talk to it, because these people sure as hell are dumber.

You are correct...except for one instance...Centurion would have to increase his IQ level by two points to be dumber than a rock.

You must be busy...I don't see you post often.

MetaMan · 11-23-2003, 09:17 PM

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Originally posted by Centurion

THIS is your "source": The wife & children of someone killed in the World Trade Center?

Hold the presses..the fucking CIA got it all wrong again!!

P.S. Did you know that Osama bin Laden HATED Hussein and was actually admonishing the Iraqi people to get rid of him?

u dum fuck,
bin ladin hated hussein but said he would ignore it because he hated the usa much more.

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Smokey The Bear So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In my house Posts: 786	http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/03/25/1017004766310.html Saddam stokes war with suicide bomber cash March 26 2002 The Iraqi leader's payments to the families of dead Palestinian terrorists means more trouble for Yasser Arafat, writes Paul McGeough in the West Bank. The hall was packed and the intake of breath was audible as a special announcement was made to the war widows of the West Bank - Saddam Hussein would pay $US25,000 ($47,000) to the family of each suicide bomber as an enticement for others to volunteer for martyrdom in the name of the Palestinian people.

11-23-2003, 06:30 PM	#68
Smokey The Bear So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In my house Posts: 786	The wife and children of John O'Neill, who died in the attack on the World Trade Center, allege that Iraq began communicating with al Qaeda as early as 1992, provided training to Osama bin Laden's warriors and sent intelligence agents to work with the terror network in Afghanistan. The evidence, the sources said, includes statements by Iraqi defectors and al Qaeda prisoners that Iraqi intelligence provided al Qaeda with training in document forgery and chemical and biological weapons in a series of contacts that spiked in 1996, and again after 1998. In its lawsuit, which was filed quietly last month in U.S. District Court, the O'Neill family says its information was gleaned from documents uncovered in Afghanistan and Iraq as recently as a few months ago, as well as information from interrogations of al Qaeda and Iraqi prisoners.

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