Sportsbook.com Still Fucking With Me.. Still Not Getting Paid My $16,000 - GoFuckYourself.com

boneprone · 11-21-2003, 07:57 PM

FUCK!!!!!!

Its been alomst a month.
Ive faxed them maybe 30 pages of doccumentation to prove who I am as requested.. Every week I fax them more information, and every week more is asked of me.

Drivers Licence, photocopies of the cards used for deposits front and back, Statements from the accounts showing the dates and amounts of deposits with my name and address and bank name.

Sent them letters from the bank for the credit cards I have closed stating that the accounts were mine in the past and that they have been re-assigned new numbers and they are in good standing. Sent them copies of the old statements of these old closed cards with the dates and amounts of the deposits to them.

Sent them photocopies of the NEW cards that the old accounts have been reassigned to.

Have had the Bank themselves send them faxes stating my address and name and status with the bank verifying my checking account.

Ive sent them more than enough shit to Verify my idenity..
This is crazy and VERY VERY concerning now.

Its been a month since I have requested my withdrawl from my sportsbook.com account. I had up to $48,000.00 in there before the world series. Got my ass kicked real real bad and was left with only 16k.. Trying to withdraw it and it is seeming to be an impossible task..

Im very very disturbed by this now..

I faxed them the latest batch of documents last night.
They told me they recieved it, and now they are asking for more stuff!! The only problem is they have already asked me for everything they can and I have sent it!!

THEY ARE ASKING ME FOR THE EXACT SAME STUFF I HAVE SENT THEM ALREADY NOW..

Electronic Guy · 11-21-2003, 07:59 PM

ok bro, I hope you can get your 16k ( in us dollars I assume). but the chance is THIN.

Fu-Q · 11-21-2003, 07:59 PM

fuck em in their ass like lil bitches

boneprone · 11-21-2003, 08:00 PM

I know for a FACT im not the only LARGE gambler here at GFY..
Does anyone who bets more than just a few hundred here and there have any expierence with these guys...

I went to them on a reputation basis..
I dont like to do biz with shady small time casinos..
Thus I chose sportsbook..

I dont think they are crooks, but something is very wrong here.
VERY WRONG..

Maybe thier staff is just very very stupid.
Or maybe they really are crooks..
I dont know.

BRISK · 11-21-2003, 08:01 PM

Send them some Almond Roca for Christmas

Pete · 11-21-2003, 08:02 PM

I'm going to contact them and fuck with 'em for a while. Thats just not nice.

Electronic Guy · 11-21-2003, 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by boneprone
I know for a FACT im not the only LARGE gambler here at GFY..
Does anyone who bets more than just a few hundred here and there have any expierence with these guys...

I went to them on a reputation basis..
I dont like to do biz with shady small time casinos..
Thus I chose sportsbook..

I dont think they are crooks, but something is very wrong here.
VERY WRONG..

Maybe thier staff is just very very stupid.
Or maybe they really are crooks..
I dont know.

why the fuck you bet online in the first place? find a bookie in your area and have the cash in your hand by the weekend if you win.....
fuck online gambling, DO NOT trust nobody.
take it from an AZN bro.

boneprone · 11-21-2003, 08:02 PM

Its unfortunate I dont know any of the big sportsbook owners in the industry. In our industry I know who's who and I can take care of ANYTHING, I mean ANYTHING with a phone call..

With these guys I dont even know who to call.

ITs just scarry.

16k for these guys should be peanuts..

But I used to say that about likewhoa too.

boneprone · 11-21-2003, 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Electronic Guy

why the fuck you bet online in the first place? find a bookie in your area and have the cash in your hand by the weekend if you win.....
fuck online gambling, DO NOT trust nobody.
take it from an AZN bro.

Bookies cant handle that kind of heat.

This isnt the days of the Italian Mafia anymore bro..
Its all coporate now days when it comes to gambling..

Electronic Guy · 11-21-2003, 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by boneprone

But I used to say that about likewhoa too.

ok, Mr. RAid, NICK bought a digital cam off me. His ex-employed drove a nice BMW too.

Arousal Design · 11-21-2003, 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by boneprone
Its unfortunate I dont know any of the big sportsbook owners in the industry. In our industry I know who's who and I can take care of ANYTHING, I mean ANYTHING with a phone call..

With these guys I dont even know who to call.

ITs just scarry.

16k for these guys should be peanuts..

But I used to say that about likewhoa too.

Some people REALLY like peanuts.

boneprone · 11-21-2003, 08:06 PM

Is THERE ANYONE HERE AT GFY who knows someone..

When I say Someone I mean a somebody...

Somebody who can make a call and get this fixed..

I know Klix And CE Cash had some Gambling sections in thier publications, so I assume someone knows someone..
These gambling sites fucking advertise in our industry publications..

Someone give me a name.

Electronic Guy · 11-21-2003, 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by boneprone

Bookies cant handle that kind of heat.

This isnt the days of the Italian Mafia anymore bro..
Its all coporate now days when it comes to gambling..

maybe in your state only. My uncle handles at least 1 million in CASH every weekend to pay other small bookies- and he must make a lot of cash from that amount of cash flow too...I guess.

boneprone · 11-21-2003, 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Electronic Guy

maybe in your state only. My uncle handles at least 1 million in CASH every weekend to pay other small bookies- and he must make a lot of cash from that amount of cash flow too...I guess.

I doubt this very much.

Electronic Guy · 11-21-2003, 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by boneprone

I doubt this very much.

come over here (philly) and ask for Peter, or Dung.

Veterans Day · 11-21-2003, 08:15 PM

dude your a junkie gambler, DUH they know this, bye bye money

Fu-Q · 11-21-2003, 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Electronic Guy

come over here (philly) and ask for Peter, or Dung.

dung? what a shitty name

boneprone · 11-21-2003, 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Veterans Day
dude your a junkie gambler, DUH they know this, bye bye money

They can make this right if i can get paid and they notice this error. Up till now I thought this "Audit" was legit.

No I have my doubts..
I dont think they want to pay me.

TonyL · 11-21-2003, 08:25 PM

Sportsbook.com is a licensee of EFS International which is an affiliated company of EFS Caribbean. These companies were subsidiaries of Starnet which owned ClubLove.com. I know there adult business was sold off. Im not sure if Starnet is still running the show for there casino business. I would recommend working your way up the chain to the company that is licensing them there casino software.

-Tony

Nickless · 11-21-2003, 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by boneprone

This isnt the days of the Italian Mafia anymore bro..
Its all coporate now days when it comes to gambling..

http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/1...w=wn_tophead_6

boneprone · 11-21-2003, 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TonyL
Sportsbook.com is a licensee of EFS International which is an affiliated company of EFS Caribbean. These companies were subsidiaries of Starnet which owned ClubLove.com. I know there adult business was sold off. Im not sure if Starnet is still running the show for there casino business. I would recommend working your way up the chain to the company that is licensing them there casino software.

-Tony

so who has my money?

sportsbook, EFS International, or EFS Caribbean?

Who do I go after first to try to resolve this.
sportsbook obviously does not want to pay me.

Smokey The Bear · 11-21-2003, 08:35 PM

Talk to them live and ask them whats up . Maybe if everyone asks them at once why they never paid you they will pay you.

try this

http://tinyurl.com/w2lt

TonyL · 11-21-2003, 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by boneprone

so who has my money?

sportsbook, EFS International, or EFS Caribbean?

Who do I go after first to try to resolve this.
sportsbook obviously does not want to pay me.

Good question there corporate structure is complex. (for good reason) I only know what I know because we spent 2 years raising venture capital back in 98 to fund our own casino and Starnet was the licensing company were going to use. Im sure with a couple of WhoIs lookups you can track somebody down.

I believe that the merchant (sportsbook.com) handles the money within there own offshore merchant account and they use EFS's gateway system to process the transactions. In the end EFS has control of there cash flow so complaining to them couldn't hurt.

-Tony

GeXus · 11-21-2003, 08:35 PM

Dude, just call there 800# 1-800-632-6088

Talk to there accounting or ask who is in charge of cutting the checks.. talk to supervisors and managers... explain what you have gone through and that you want your fucking money..

Youve probebly just been dealing with idiot customer service people who dont know wtf they are doing..

Smokey The Bear · 11-21-2003, 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Smokey The Bear
Talk to them live and ask them whats up . Maybe if everyone asks them at once why they never paid you they will pay you.

try this

http://tinyurl.com/w2lt

this is the live online support url for the parent company.

boneprone · 11-21-2003, 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TonyL

Good question there corporate structure is complex. (for good reason) I only know what I know because we spent 2 years raising venture capital back in 98 to fund our own casino and Starnet was the licensing company were going to use. Im sure with a couple of WhoIs lookups you can track somebody down.

-Tony

In our industry chargebacks id the consumer's greatest weapon.
Something that indeed we fear and avoid.

Do these casinos fear this as much as we do? And if not what is it that hurts these sportbooks-casinos that they fear the most from a angry customer standpoint?

Is this contacting thier licence people the way to go?

ytcracker · 11-21-2003, 08:39 PM

its like the visa commercials for the check card

can i write check
yo
yao
yo
yao

Administrator · 11-21-2003, 08:40 PM

thats fucked up, if i were you id go collect my money personly no matter where in the world they hide. 16k is worth it. take it out on their fuckin heads with a baseball bat.
and make sure they lose a fuckload of online biz.
gimmy some details, i can inform 20 million internet users in about 45 minutes

TonyL · 11-21-2003, 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by boneprone

In our industry chargebacks id the consumer's greatest weapon.
Something that indeed we fear and avoid.

Do these casinos fear this as much as we do? And if not what is it that hurts these sportbooks-casinos that they fear the most from a angry customer standpoint?

Is this contacting thier licence people the way to go?

I believe that the merchant (sportsbook.com) handles the money within there own offshore merchant account and they use EFS's gateway system to process the transactions. In the end EFS has control of there cash flow so complaining to them couldn't hurt.

-Tony

TonyL · 11-21-2003, 08:42 PM

When you moved $48,000 into an account didn't you have to fax them a signed agreement? That will help them in a fight against any type of chargeback.

boneprone · 11-21-2003, 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Smokey The Bear

this is the live online support url for the parent company.

this is no good.
My shit is locked away and in a different department all together.
The support people arent handling it.

ITs a seperate Audit and Review board.
They get back to you every 48 hours..

The support people are just basic question and answer people.

My situation is being handled by a seperate panel of people.

Smokey The Bear · 11-21-2003, 08:43 PM

Im talking to the chick right now

she seems awfully shady

Fu-Q · 11-21-2003, 08:43 PM

for a plane ticket and a small fee/ baseball bat, i can take care of this asap

boneprone · 11-21-2003, 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TonyL

I believe that the merchant (sportsbook.com) handles the money within there own offshore merchant account and they use EFS's gateway system to process the transactions. In the end EFS has control of there cash flow so complaining to them couldn't hurt.

-Tony

truthfully I believe it is EFS that is holding my money.
It seems my messages are being relayed to sportls book to them..

My money seems to not be in sportsbook hands, but in some other account.

I assume maybe EFS?

boneprone · 11-21-2003, 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TonyL
When you moved $48,000 into an account didn't you have to fax them a signed agreement? That will help them in a fight against any type of chargeback.

No dude.
THis was winnings..

The most I EVER deposit is line 500.00 here and 500.00 there.
I got up to 48k..

Then the heat got me, and I lost it down to 16k.

Smokey The Bear · 11-21-2003, 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by boneprone

this is no good.
My shit is locked away and in a different department all together.
The support people arent handling it.

ITs a seperate Audit and Review board.
They get back to you every 48 hours..

The support people are just basic question and answer people.

My situation is being handled by a seperate panel of people.

They always say that , just keep pushing.

ask for phone numbers and contacts of the review board

LadyMischief · 11-21-2003, 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by boneprone

No dude.
THis was winnings..

The most I EVER deposit is line 500.00 here and 500.00 there.

Kick their asses!

Smokey The Bear · 11-21-2003, 08:49 PM

https://secure-pl.worldgaming.net/efsplayers/login2.cgi

try Andre Solomon
1-268-480-1696 efs

or

1-268-480-1650

1-800-678-1830
1-268-480-1658

boneprone · 11-21-2003, 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Smokey The Bear
https://secure-pl.worldgaming.net/efsplayers/login2.cgi

try Andre Solomon
1-268-480-1696 efs

who is he?

Smokey The Bear · 11-21-2003, 08:53 PM

efs contact

TonyL · 11-21-2003, 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by boneprone

No dude.
THis was winnings..

The most I EVER deposit is line 500.00 here and 500.00 there.
I got up to 48k..

Then the heat got me, and I lost it down to 16k.

Wow! Forget adult you have found your niche. Sell the TGP and become a full time gambler. Yeah that's exactly why you are getting the run around. They think you have found a bug/exploit in there software and they are researching your account to figure out how you "cheated" them. Once they are satisfied you didn't cheat them they will release your money. Hopefully =P

-Tony

Smokey The Bear · 11-21-2003, 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by boneprone

who is he?

Starnet Systems International Andre Solomon

aka efs aka worldgaming aka sportsbook

They all are run by that guy

virux · 11-21-2003, 09:05 PM

i'd say its time to pay your lawyer a visit...

Shoplifter · 11-21-2003, 09:06 PM

Starnet is in Vancouver...They were once involved in the biggest police raid in city history.

Smokey The Bear · 11-21-2003, 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Shoplifter
Starnet is in Vancouver...They were once involved in the biggest police raid in city history.

Yup they are also in antigua and las vegas

b.t.w they took off the ads sig in the posts so you can change your sig

boneprone · 11-21-2003, 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Smokey The Bear

Starnet Systems International Andre Solomon

aka efs aka worldgaming aka sportsbook

They all are run by that guy

Really?

boneprone · 11-21-2003, 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by virux
i'd say its time to pay your lawyer a visit...

They cant do shit.
This is all over seas..

Id take care of this by other means before i went to a stupid attorney for something like this.

Smokey The Bear · 11-21-2003, 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by boneprone

Really?

Yup if you have seen my posts, you know i do my homework and i dont make too many mistakes.

And yes a lawyer is useless as you dont have much of a legal leg to stand on , you would do much better with threats and intimidation. Well start off nicely. but move to threats really quick. And dont take no for an answer

boneprone · 11-21-2003, 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Shoplifter
Starnet is in Vancouver...They were once involved in the biggest police raid in city history.

what happened?

Smokey The Bear · 11-21-2003, 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by boneprone

what happened?

http://thestarnetisland.com/manageca...asp?c=20&n=100

11-21-2003, 07:57 PM	#1
boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,415	Sportsbook.com Still Fucking With Me.. Still Not Getting Paid My $16,000 FUCK!!!!!! Its been alomst a month. Ive faxed them maybe 30 pages of doccumentation to prove who I am as requested.. Every week I fax them more information, and every week more is asked of me. Drivers Licence, photocopies of the cards used for deposits front and back, Statements from the accounts showing the dates and amounts of deposits with my name and address and bank name. Sent them letters from the bank for the credit cards I have closed stating that the accounts were mine in the past and that they have been re-assigned new numbers and they are in good standing. Sent them copies of the old statements of these old closed cards with the dates and amounts of the deposits to them. Sent them photocopies of the NEW cards that the old accounts have been reassigned to. Have had the Bank themselves send them faxes stating my address and name and status with the bank verifying my checking account. Ive sent them more than enough shit to Verify my idenity.. This is crazy and VERY VERY concerning now. Its been a month since I have requested my withdrawl from my sportsbook.com account. I had up to $48,000.00 in there before the world series. Got my ass kicked real real bad and was left with only 16k.. Trying to withdraw it and it is seeming to be an impossible task.. Im very very disturbed by this now.. I faxed them the latest batch of documents last night. They told me they recieved it, and now they are asking for more stuff!! The only problem is they have already asked me for everything they can and I have sent it!! THEY ARE ASKING ME FOR THE EXACT SAME STUFF I HAVE SENT THEM ALREADY NOW.. __________________ Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones Bow to the Power - Still BP4L http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame Learn about it kids.

11-21-2003, 08:00 PM	#4
boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,415	I know for a FACT im not the only LARGE gambler here at GFY.. Does anyone who bets more than just a few hundred here and there have any expierence with these guys... I went to them on a reputation basis.. I dont like to do biz with shady small time casinos.. Thus I chose sportsbook.. I dont think they are crooks, but something is very wrong here. VERY WRONG.. Maybe thier staff is just very very stupid. Or maybe they really are crooks.. I dont know. __________________ Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones Bow to the Power - Still BP4L http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame Learn about it kids.

11-21-2003, 08:01 PM	#5
BRISK Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,240	Send them some Almond Roca for Christmas __________________ I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do, I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.

11-21-2003, 08:02 PM	#6
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11-21-2003, 08:02 PM	#8
boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,415	Its unfortunate I dont know any of the big sportsbook owners in the industry. In our industry I know who's who and I can take care of ANYTHING, I mean ANYTHING with a phone call.. With these guys I dont even know who to call. ITs just scarry. 16k for these guys should be peanuts.. But I used to say that about likewhoa too. __________________ Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones Bow to the Power - Still BP4L http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame Learn about it kids.

11-21-2003, 07:59 PM	#2
Electronic Guy So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 384	ok bro, I hope you can get your 16k ( in us dollars I assume). but the chance is THIN.

11-21-2003, 07:59 PM	#3
Fu-Q Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Seattle Posts: 1,546	fuck em in their ass like lil bitches

11-21-2003, 08:06 PM	#12
boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,415	Is THERE ANYONE HERE AT GFY who knows someone.. When I say Someone I mean a somebody... Somebody who can make a call and get this fixed.. I know Klix And CE Cash had some Gambling sections in thier publications, so I assume someone knows someone.. These gambling sites fucking advertise in our industry publications.. Someone give me a name. __________________ Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones Bow to the Power - Still BP4L http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame Learn about it kids.

11-21-2003, 08:15 PM	#16
Veterans Day Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: The Windy City Posts: 8,403	dude your a junkie gambler, DUH they know this, bye bye money

11-21-2003, 08:25 PM	#19
TonyL Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: "A measure of a man is his post count". Write that down. Posts: 900	Sportsbook.com is a licensee of EFS International which is an affiliated company of EFS Caribbean. These companies were subsidiaries of Starnet which owned ClubLove.com. I know there adult business was sold off. Im not sure if Starnet is still running the show for there casino business. I would recommend working your way up the chain to the company that is licensing them there casino software. -Tony

11-21-2003, 08:35 PM	#22
Smokey The Bear So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In my house Posts: 786	Talk to them live and ask them whats up . Maybe if everyone asks them at once why they never paid you they will pay you. try this http://tinyurl.com/w2lt

11-21-2003, 08:35 PM	#24
GeXus Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Yo Mommas Pussy Posts: 3,320	Dude, just call there 800# 1-800-632-6088 Talk to there accounting or ask who is in charge of cutting the checks.. talk to supervisors and managers... explain what you have gone through and that you want your fucking money.. Youve probebly just been dealing with idiot customer service people who dont know wtf they are doing.. __________________

11-21-2003, 08:39 PM	#27
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11-21-2003, 08:40 PM	#28
Administrator So Fucking Banned Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 128	thats fucked up, if i were you id go collect my money personly no matter where in the world they hide. 16k is worth it. take it out on their fuckin heads with a baseball bat. and make sure they lose a fuckload of online biz. gimmy some details, i can inform 20 million internet users in about 45 minutes

11-21-2003, 08:42 PM	#30
TonyL Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: "A measure of a man is his post count". Write that down. Posts: 900	When you moved $48,000 into an account didn't you have to fax them a signed agreement? That will help them in a fight against any type of chargeback.

11-21-2003, 08:43 PM	#32
Smokey The Bear So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In my house Posts: 786	Im talking to the chick right now she seems awfully shady

11-21-2003, 08:49 PM	#38
Smokey The Bear So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In my house Posts: 786	https://secure-pl.worldgaming.net/efsplayers/login2.cgi try Andre Solomon 1-268-480-1696 efs or 1-268-480-1650 1-800-678-1830 1-268-480-1658 Last edited by Smokey The Bear; 11-21-2003 at 08:52 PM..

11-21-2003, 08:53 PM	#40
Smokey The Bear So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In my house Posts: 786	efs contact

11-21-2003, 09:05 PM	#43
virux Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 138	i'd say its time to pay your lawyer a visit...

11-21-2003, 09:06 PM	#44
Shoplifter Richest man in Babylon Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Posts: 10,002 Posts: 5,725	Starnet is in Vancouver...They were once involved in the biggest police raid in city history.