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Old 11-21-2003, 09:15 PM   #51
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Great..
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Starnet is known as the slowest to pay the players, if they pay at all and its biggest shareholders involved in strip clubs, prostitution and drugs. A warning to players: Never give Starnet your credit card number. "
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Old 11-21-2003, 09:16 PM   #52
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They had tweaked the Governments nose by inviting the Antiguan gaming minister to Vancouver to do seminars. You just don't challenge the government on gaming revenue.

There is lots more to it...They were they guys who had the cameras in the No. 5 and some rumoured connections with the 81's.

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After the RCMP raided Starnet's office Meldon Ellis panicked and he decamped to Antigua, leaving his pregnant wife behind in Vancouver.
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Problem is you can not go the legal route with this, since online gaming is illegal.

I might know someone who can help, let me give them a call. If he says I can give you his contact information I will need to get a hold of you Boneprone some how since I am not going to post it here... =)

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Old 11-21-2003, 09:18 PM   #55
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The problems they had with the canadian goverment were mostly due to there adult business that was sold off.

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The problems they had with the canadian goverment were mostly due to there adult business that was sold off.

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Gambling is much more profitable. especially when you dont pay OUT.
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Starnet is in Vancouver...They were once involved in the biggest police raid in city history.
vancouver is really close to me, i renew my offer with the baseball bat and such
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Old 11-21-2003, 09:22 PM   #58
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The problems they had with the canadian goverment were mostly due to there adult business that was sold off.

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Personally I don't believe that, I think the porn business was used to obtain the warrants and smear them in the media but it was really all about the gambling money. They had a capitalization at one point of $640 million.
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Personally I don't believe that, I think the porn business was used to obtain the warrants and smear them in the media but it was really all about the gambling money. They had a capitalization at one point of $640 million.
You may be correct.
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Boneprone,

Check your other thread on this. It had a link to a gambling board that has a rep that was looking to help you. He does not want this type of shit on a gambling board so over there this would cause them to pay attention.

I also did a small deposit with these dopes and had some issues. It is resolved pretty much in that they have said they sent a check which I am waiting on.

BUT if it does not come I am going to their home and shit on them.
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Old 11-21-2003, 09:29 PM   #61
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Old 11-21-2003, 09:52 PM   #62
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Shoplifter, Tony, Smoky, Volantt, it seems you guys have some good insight on this matter.

In your opinion do you think I will be paid?

Truthfully I think I will. Its just some kind of hastle but I think I will. Eventually.

Im not mad, nor am I throwing out threats to them.. Im just very concerned about my money. The posts about trying to screw them, or go with a baseball bat and that kinda shit is not the kinda of shit I need to hear.

Like I said, im not mad. Im concerned.
At this moment I have nothing to be mad at I realize for there is still a very good chance I will be paid. It is when I am told flat out Im not getting paid this concern turns to anger. But I dont think it will reach that point.

I just want to walk away from this with a good feeling about this is all I want.. And my money.

They handle enough action, 16k should be easy for them.
Why get in a tiff for 16k wouldnt make sence for them would it?
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Just some simple reading for you Boneprone.... This company(s) is the owner/operator of sportsbook.com

http://www.gamblingmagazine.com/starnet.htm


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Shoplifter, Tony, Smoky, Volantt, it seems you guys have some good insight on this matter.

In your opinion do you think I will be paid?

Truthfully I think I will. Its just some kind of hastle but I think I will. Eventually.

Im not mad, nor am I throwing out threats to them.. Im just very concerned about my money. The posts about trying to screw them, or go with a baseball bat and that kinda shit is not the kinda of shit I need to hear.

Like I said, im not mad. Im concerned.
At this moment I have nothing to be mad at I realize for there is still a very good chance I will be paid. It is when I am told flat out Im not getting paid this concern turns to anger. But I dont think it will reach that point.

I just want to walk away from this with a good feeling about this is all I want.. And my money.

They handle enough action, 16k should be easy for them.
Why get in a tiff for 16k wouldnt make sence for them would it?
sorry i wont post in this thread again
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Old 11-21-2003, 09:55 PM   #65
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Boneprone,

Check your other thread on this. It had a link to a gambling board that has a rep that was looking to help you. He does not want this type of shit on a gambling board so over there this would cause them to pay attention.

I also did a small deposit with these dopes and had some issues. It is resolved pretty much in that they have said they sent a check which I am waiting on.

BUT if it does not come I am going to their home and shit on them.
Yeah, that will be the next phase I think.. If I know Im not getting paid.
I really dont want to have to slander them on some gambling message board if this is all just a misunderstanding.. Which I think it is.

To have this issue on a high profile gambling board like what your friend runs would not be good. Last thing I need to do is bash the company who has my money on a board in thier industry.
Thats not going to make them happy or solve my problem I think..

I dont want a war, I want a resolution and with cool and calm heads..

For now anyway.
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sorry i wont post in this thread again
LOL!!
You can post in the thread one month from today if Im still not paid.
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LOL!!
You can post in the thread one month from today if Im still not paid.
ummm...... i lied. agreed
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Yeah, that will be the next phase I think.. If I know Im not getting paid.
I really dont want to have to slander them on some gambling message board if this is all just a misunderstanding.. Which I think it is.

To have this issue on a high profile gambling board like what your friend runs would not be good. Last thing I need to do is bash the company who has my money on a board in thier industry.
Thats not going to make them happy or solve my problem I think..

I dont want a war, I want a resolution and with cool and calm heads..

For now anyway.
16k means more to me then you probably but I would be tweaked. I can see your point though.
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I've done some research on "World Gaming Plc" which owns Starnet et al. It seems you will probably from my point of view need a miracle to get paid. Those are edgar filings for the company, not to promising for a company that doesn't make a profit. And has lawsuits up the wazoo. I have a friend in the banking world that might shed some light, will give him a e-mail shout and see what he can dig up.

---- Edgar SEC Filings -------

"At September 30, 2003, the Company had $2,675 in cash and cash equivalents, up from $1,753 at December 31, 2002. The increase in cash was primarily as a result of a $1,500 investment received in April 2003 from Goodison Park Ltd. Cash was used to settle many of the Company's most urgent financial commitments as explained below."


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www.PhoenixSports.com is a big sports better forum.

Report this shit over there and see if you can get your problem solved GFY style.
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You most probably will never see a dime from them. Sucks. If you want though, why don't you sue the piss out of them?
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You most probably will never see a dime from them. Sucks. If you want though, why don't you sue the piss out of them?
I highly doubt you would want to sue for damages from online sports betting. Judge might frown upon that.

Like suing a drug dealer for breach of contract when he shorted you an ounce of weed.


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Like suing a drug dealer for breach of contract when he shorted you an ounce of weed.
Oh shit! You can sue for that!?

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Oh shit! You can sue for that!?

Only in California


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Is there any one else out there having problems getting paid by them?

Have any of you guys seen other stories on gambling boards or anything else like that.

Id be intrested to know if this is a common problem..
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Is there any one else out there having problems getting paid by them?

Have any of you guys seen other stories on gambling boards or anything else like that.

Id be intrested to know if this is a common problem..
Nobody has ever won before

Sorry it had to be said.

Seriously i think if you can talk the talk you might get your money back , but your gonna have to pull some strings and possibly kiss a little ass to do it.

Always bet locally. Is the best advice , but since its too late for that. I suggest making the calls and find someone in N.A. you can Squish , and hope money pops out.

What really matters to them is losing money , so if they stand to lose more money by NOT giving you your cash back they will fork over what they owe you. If they think they can stiff you they will laugh and walk away with your loot. ( just like the adult industry or any industry for that matter )

Chat up some lawyers and find out your best route. Chat up some gamblers and see what they have to say.

Dont dismiss that help line i mentioned earlier. Ask them who runs the show , phone up mr soloman and talk him to death.

If you annoy the piss out of them they just might figure your more pain than the money is worth.

Find out the affiliates , and contact them as well . Even the hosting and software companies might at least give you more leads.
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whata gonna do dude ?
you know , when you stuck in such situation , you have two options
the first one , just to keep waiting for long period of time n getting nAdA (whooooaaaa fiasko;=)
second option , ohh shit , take an illegal steps
put their website down for week , tell'em it's bone , they will arrange you the deal quickly
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Problem is you can not go the legal route with this, since online gaming is illegal.

I might know someone who can help, let me give them a call. If he says I can give you his contact information I will need to get a hold of you Boneprone some how since I am not going to post it here... =)

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whata gonna do dude ?
you know , when you stuck in such situation , you have two options
the first one , just to keep waiting for long period of time n getting nAdA (whooooaaaa fiasko;=)
second option , ohh shit , take an illegal steps
put their website down for week , tell'em it's bone , they will arrange you the deal quickly
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ok im not getting paid.

These sportsbook.com people are talking in circles and loops now.

Keep telling me to send someting I just sent them over and over again..

They are having a hard time understanding or have ran out of excuses to tell me. They keep asking for documentation on two final creditcards they have on file for me. I sent it to them, and told them I sent it.. They acknowledge I sent it, but then tell me "but we still need info for accounts xxxx and xxxx.

I then tell them I just sent it and they say yes we recived it thanks you.. But we still need info for account xxx and xxx..


ITs like talking to a post bot..

By weekeneds end, more drastic measures will occur..

Id you are the real deepsy or have any skills even close to his contact me.
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ok.. now communication just got clearer..

Ive been told to re-send the faxed information requested, that it was not good enough of a quality.

I understand that this was probably an accident..

But in 48 hours there is about to be an accident of its own if this is not resolved.
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I can get them to pay. I tried to help you 2 weeks ago but you just ignored me. I worked in Caribbean for 2 years. was in the gambling biz for 4. so what up
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Read this then tell me if you would like to challenge the Justice Department? Yes, it tends to point to being prohibited but I don't think you want to be a "test case" here.

http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,55202,00.html

Sorry to hear that Boneprone, hope you get your money. Still waiting to hear from a friend who works at mastercard.

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Just some simple reading for you Boneprone.... This company(s) is the owner/operator of sportsbook.com

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1) That bites.
2) Are you absolutely sure that's who runs that shit? Cause then that's Chuck from Vancouver (No. 5), nice guy. You should give him a shout, that might help shit out.
3) They've got an interesting network over there at sportsbook...running 1.3.12 and sendmail of all things...

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Fuck that. you lost money, right?

Charge it all back!
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Old 11-22-2003, 11:36 AM   #91
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BP, contact the guys over at www.majorwager.com or post in their forum. They get guys paid all the time.

Boneprone. DO NOT GO TO MAJORWAGER




Trust me, http://www.gambling911.com Ask for sting. All you need is to email him. he has direct contacts to all of them . I known sting when he had a lame aol homepage for his site. lol I helped him punch those first keys for that domain name. I had SuperSportsBook.com . the good days. if you post today I'll hit you up icq.. do not go to major wager. You will thank me later.
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Old 11-22-2003, 11:42 AM   #92
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Since we are on the topic of Online Gambing..

What are some good Internet Gaming Webmaster resource sites? I've found a few, but they all suck!
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Old 11-22-2003, 11:47 AM   #93
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Since we are on the topic of Online Gambing..

What are some good Internet Gaming Webmaster resource sites? I've found a few, but they all suck!

http://www.CasinoAffiliatePrograms.com


http://www.CasinoAffiliateProgram.com
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Old 11-22-2003, 11:50 AM   #94
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Those two guys are pretty creative when it comes to domain names..
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Old 11-22-2003, 12:43 PM   #95
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Read this then tell me if you would like to challenge the Justice Department? Yes, it tends to point to being prohibited but I don't think you want to be a "test case" here.

http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,55202,00.html

Sorry to hear that Boneprone, hope you get your money. Still waiting to hear from a friend who works at mastercard.

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"However, the act specifically limits its application to sporting events and contests, and casino games are generally not considered contests because the participant is competing against mathematical odds, not other people,"
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Old 11-22-2003, 12:44 PM   #96
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Boneprone,

Do you just use the books or do you play the casino also?

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Old 11-22-2003, 01:07 PM   #97
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No dude.
THis was winnings..

The most I EVER deposit is line 500.00 here and 500.00 there.
I got up to 48k..

Then the heat got me, and I lost it down to 16k.
DAMN!!! I'll give you $500 to play with and get it up to $16K or even $48K and then split the winnings with your ass dude, if your this good at gambling
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Old 12-01-2003, 02:04 PM   #98
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Boneprone,

I got my $300 initial deposit and my $47.50 in winnings. Size does matter so maybe it was too much hassle to keep mine but just a heads up.
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