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Ic3m4nZ · 11-19-2003, 04:43 PM

50 sites hijacked

chemicaleyes · 11-19-2003, 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ic3m4nZ
50 sites hijacked

or being redirected?

Rich · 11-19-2003, 04:48 PM

You guys seem to surprised that a sponsor is stealing traffic. Why, because they run a message board?

If you're going to be an affiliate of almost any adult program get used to being fucked over on a daily basis.

Peterson · 11-19-2003, 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by chemicaleyes
where are you?

im from Brazil and redirected 4 dialers

Brad-Wishing · 11-19-2003, 04:50 PM

Links here are still wonky as hell.

Tipsy · 11-19-2003, 04:50 PM

Always amazes me that anyone is stupid enough to redirect UK traffic. The dialler payouts for UK may be high but UK surfers also have credit cards and use them far more than they'll dial into a £2 a min service.

chemicaleyes · 11-19-2003, 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rich
You guys seem to surprised that a sponsor is stealing traffic. Why, because they run a message board?

If you're going to be an affiliate of almost any adult program get used to being fucked over on a daily basis.

not exactly surprised but want, them to admit it if they are and sort it out

JDog · 11-19-2003, 04:52 PM

Check your hosts file too!

jDoG

integrated · 11-19-2003, 04:56 PM

interesting

chemicaleyes · 11-19-2003, 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tipsy
Always amazes me that anyone is stupid enough to redirect UK traffic. The dialler payouts for UK may be high but UK surfers also have credit cards and use them far more than they'll dial into a £2 a min service.

Exactly, If the UK were as big as the US we would make far more income online

People stop fucking with UK traffic

J B · 11-19-2003, 05:01 PM

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Originally posted by feN

t-online

I'm using t-online (dsl) as well and I don't get redirected...

SR · 11-19-2003, 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tipsy
Always amazes me that anyone is stupid enough to redirect UK traffic. The dialler payouts for UK may be high but UK surfers also have credit cards and use them far more than they'll dial into a £2 a min service.

Yeps UK traffic is great for most sites/products.
Lets hope it won't get ruined by slapping them with 10 dialer windows everytime they click an ad.

chemicaleyes · 11-19-2003, 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by J B

I'm using t-online (dsl) as well and I don't get redirected...

it all depends on I don't know? but sometimes I can click a link 20 or so x and not get redirected, click another one and get no redirecting and then click the first one again and get redirected first time..

swedguy · 11-19-2003, 05:11 PM

I just tried with en-us, en-gb, sv, de and couple of other languages and no problems.

I tried through a Chinese, Dutch, UK, Brazil and Swedish proxy and no problems.

$2 that you got hit by the new Internet Explorer vulnerability and a new spyware got installed that Ad-Aware on those haven't found out about yet.

chemicaleyes · 11-19-2003, 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by swedguy
I just tried with en-us, en-gb, sv, de and couple of other languages and no problems.

I tried through a Chinese, Dutch, UK, Brazil and Swedish proxy and no problems.

$2 that you got hit by the new Internet Explorer vulnerability and a new spyware got installed that Ad-Aware on those haven't found out about yet.

may be?

roly · 11-19-2003, 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by swedguy
I just tried with en-us, en-gb, sv, de and couple of other languages and no problems.

I tried through a Chinese, Dutch, UK, Brazil and Swedish proxy and no problems.

$2 that you got hit by the new Internet Explorer vulnerability and a new spyware got installed that Ad-Aware on those haven't found out about yet.

it's nothing to do with vunerability's, it's the sponsor redirecting to a dialer, that's obvious.

Kick Ass Chat · 11-19-2003, 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rich
You guys seem to surprised that a sponsor is stealing traffic. Why, because they run a message board?

If you're going to be an affiliate of almost any adult program get used to being fucked over on a daily basis.

BINGO........sad, but true

Lensman · 11-19-2003, 05:27 PM

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Originally posted by pantymaniac
i clicked 10 times not redirected TURKEY

We don't redirect. Just look at all the int'l guys who are not redirected. You guys have spyware.

Mr.Fiction · 11-19-2003, 05:32 PM

Someone should contact the dialers or do some research and try to find out who's getting paid on the redirected traffic.

I'm sure that won't be easy.

chemicaleyes · 11-19-2003, 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lensman

We don't redirect. Just look at all the int'l guys who are not redirected. You guys have spyware.

Lens can you icq me or email me office-AT-eadultbiz.co.uk so I can reply to something that will not get stuck in a spam filter

Peterson · 11-19-2003, 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by swedguy
I just tried with en-us, en-gb, sv, de and couple of other languages and no problems.

I tried through a Chinese, Dutch, UK, Brazil and Swedish proxy and no problems.

$2 that you got hit by the new Internet Explorer vulnerability and a new spyware got installed that Ad-Aware on those haven't found out about yet.

use an anonymous proxy

NO SPYWARE !!!

richard · 11-19-2003, 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lensman

We don't redirect. Just look at all the int'l guys who are not redirected. You guys have spyware.

Theory:

I installed a Deltino (The netpond dialer / run by Meat/Aga) dialer to examine how it interacts with the surfer. (its a nasty bitch that disables ctrl+alt+del

).

I have had some other UK friends test the links, and they do not get redirected. Friends who did not install a Deltino/Netpond dialer.

I propose that those people getting redirected, have at one time installed a Netpond dialer. Netpond dialer is now redirecting Lensman's traffic for him.

chemicaleyes · 11-19-2003, 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by richard

Theory:

I installed a Deltino (The netpond dialer / run by Meat/Aga) dialer to examine how it interacts with the surfer. (its a nasty bitch that disables ctrl+alt+del ).

I have had some other UK friends test the links, and they do not get redirected. Friends who did not install a Deltino/Netpond dialer.

I propose that those people getting redirected, have at one time installed a Netpond dialer. Netpond dialer is now redirecting Lensman's traffic for him.

I have NEVER installed a Netpond dialer on any system of mine.

richard · 11-19-2003, 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by chemicaleyes
I have NEVER installed a Netpond dialer on any system of mine.

Holistyc dialer?

i didn't say i was right, just giving a suggestion as to why we are being redirected.

I'm installing opera now...

chemicaleyes · 11-19-2003, 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by richard

Holistyc dialer?

i didn't say i was right, just giving a suggestion as to why we are being redirected.

I'm installing opera now...

I know it was a suggestion, I'm just saying that I've never installed a Netpond dialer

chemicaleyes · 11-19-2003, 06:01 PM

ok so when whatever can't tell where I am from using an anonymous proxy with approx 50-70 clicks to different sites 1 redirect to a different page than either of the 2 that I have had come up so far

richard · 11-19-2003, 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by chemicaleyes
ok so when whatever can't tell where I am from using an anonymous proxy with approx 50-70 clicks to different sites 1 redirect to a different page than either of the 2 that I have had come up so far

English Motherfucker, DO YOU SPEAK IT?

I'm using a "fully patched" version of IE, with no adaware found spyware, and i get redirected.

In Opera, i don't get redirected.

MetaMan · 11-19-2003, 06:07 PM

DIALER OWNZ UK

chemicaleyes · 11-19-2003, 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by richard

English Motherfucker, DO YOU SPEAK IT?

I'm using a "fully patched" version of IE, with no adaware found spyware, and i get redirected.

In Opera, i don't get redirected.

speak english sometimes

ok then, richard you on icq?

Lensman · 11-19-2003, 06:13 PM

Post the url that you get redirected to.

Tipsy · 11-19-2003, 06:16 PM

As I said I don't get redirected and geo stuff usually redirects me with no trouble because the peopl running it don't appreciate the true value of uk traffic.

Has to be spyware crap. I presume you've checked your hosts file?

richard · 11-19-2003, 06:17 PM

My icq is 41012160.

Lensman - the url contains hex encoded chars that'll probaby fubar the link. So i put it in a text file:

http://gibhar.com/richard/link4lens.txt

chemicaleyes · 11-19-2003, 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lensman
Post the url that you get redirected to.

http:/ /ww w.premium rated content.c om/ars/sites/amateur/? affid=1011382%3A1585%3A339%3A1069275150%3A57709400
%3A1345253299&lang=&a=1011382& adtrax=1585%3A339%3A1069275150%3A57709400%3A134525
3299

not had a problem with spyware before, but am still checking things and cleaning

Lensman · 11-19-2003, 07:22 PM

OK, figured it out. We put up the ADS dialer a couple of days ago, and one of our guys put a language redirector for inbound traffic on one of the servers. It' supposed to only be on exits. The good news is that it was only on one of the three gateway servers, so most traffic was not effected.

It's fixed. Great catch chemicaleyes. It had us fooled, because the one guy in our office who did it didn't synch the other servers to it.

chemicaleyes · 11-19-2003, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lensman
OK, figured it out. We put up the ADS dialer a couple of days ago, and one of our guys put a language redirector for inbound traffic on one of the servers. It' supposed to only be on exits. The good news is that it was only on one of the three gateway servers, so most traffic was not effected.

It's fixed. Great catch chemicaleyes. It had us fooled, because the one guy in our office who did it didn't synch the other servers to it.

Great, made about 30-40 clicks and No redirecting anymore

MicDoohan · 11-20-2003, 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lensman
OK, figured it out. We put up the ADS dialer a couple of days ago, and one of our guys put a language redirector for inbound traffic on one of the servers. It' supposed to only be on exits. The good news is that it was only on one of the three gateway servers, so most traffic was not effected.

It's fixed. Great catch chemicaleyes. It had us fooled, because the one guy in our office who did it didn't synch the other servers to it.

Hey Chief - better go get your man to sort out AP now - I'm in Australia and im getting redirected to your dialer as well.

Smokey The Bear · 11-20-2003, 04:12 PM

Its a common trick i have noticed lately with dialers that do the geo redirecting themselves. They like to slip some past from normal areas and sludge the traffic. Then they sell off the dialer popup's to hijack the browser to a third party to boot.

I noticed this on a bunch of other sponsors lately as well. I wouldnt let the dialers have control unless your monitoring them closely.

Tip#1 dont let someone else control your traffic unless your in on the code.

Tip#2 watch them like hawks.

Im not dissing your sponsor lens , but i have noticed this problem with other sponsors. Suddenly canadians and brits and australians will be redirected for no reason.

Its almost like they are doing it on purpose because they know the people checking will be doing it from the usa.

Hell it could just be an honest mistake that i happened to notice on 3 seperate sponsors

But it seems very suspicious. Like if i cut a deal with you to redirect your traffic that you cant process anyways thru cc card for a certain cut. Who is to say i dont add some ip ranges from good areas to boost my traffic/sales. How would you know ? You wouldnt . Until people started noticing it. With all the hijacking going on , most sponsors might just figure its a hijack or a fluke. And surfers wont know the difference , the only people who would complain is webmasters who are checking links. Again it doesnt affect everyone so just a small percentage of people get ripped and dont realise it, or write it off as an error , come back 2 days later and it works again so they dont bother complaining.

Just my opinion though and no particular slant against ads

Theo · 11-20-2003, 04:42 PM

all good here (greece)

MicDoohan · 11-20-2003, 04:47 PM

Well said dude

skillfull · 11-20-2003, 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Smokey The Bear
Its a common trick i have noticed lately with dialers that do the geo redirecting themselves. They like to slip some past from normal areas and sludge the traffic. Then they sell off the dialer popup's to hijack the browser to a third party to boot.

I noticed this on a bunch of other sponsors lately as well. I wouldnt let the dialers have control unless your monitoring them closely.

Tip#1 dont let someone else control your traffic unless your in on the code.

Tip#2 watch them like hawks.

Im not dissing your sponsor lens , but i have noticed this problem with other sponsors. Suddenly canadians and brits and australians will be redirected for no reason.

Its almost like they are doing it on purpose because they know the people checking will be doing it from the usa.

Hell it could just be an honest mistake that i happened to notice on 3 seperate sponsors

But it seems very suspicious. Like if i cut a deal with you to redirect your traffic that you cant process anyways thru cc card for a certain cut. Who is to say i dont add some ip ranges from good areas to boost my traffic/sales. How would you know ? You wouldnt . Until people started noticing it. With all the hijacking going on , most sponsors might just figure its a hijack or a fluke. And surfers wont know the difference , the only people who would complain is webmasters who are checking links. Again it doesnt affect everyone so just a small percentage of people get ripped and dont realise it, or write it off as an error , come back 2 days later and it works again so they dont bother complaining.

Just my opinion though and no particular slant against ads

amen to that

11-19-2003, 04:50 PM	#55
Brad-Wishing Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 2,415	Links here are still wonky as hell. __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

11-19-2003, 04:50 PM	#56
Tipsy Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: See sig Posts: 6,989	Always amazes me that anyone is stupid enough to redirect UK traffic. The dialler payouts for UK may be high but UK surfers also have credit cards and use them far more than they'll dial into a £2 a min service. __________________ Ignorance is never bliss.

11-19-2003, 04:52 PM	#58
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11-19-2003, 04:56 PM	#59
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11-19-2003, 06:01 PM	#76
chemicaleyes UNSTOPPABLE Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: UK :: ICQ# 156068 Posts: 11,569	ok so when whatever can't tell where I am from using an anonymous proxy with approx 50-70 clicks to different sites 1 redirect to a different page than either of the 2 that I have had come up so far __________________ No way as way, No limitation as limitation. AmeriNOC formally PhatServers

11-19-2003, 04:43 PM	#51
Ic3m4nZ Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Montreal! Posts: 6,285	50 sites hijacked

11-19-2003, 04:48 PM	#53
Rich So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 11,486	You guys seem to surprised that a sponsor is stealing traffic. Why, because they run a message board? If you're going to be an affiliate of almost any adult program get used to being fucked over on a daily basis.

11-19-2003, 05:11 PM	#64
swedguy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 7,981	I just tried with en-us, en-gb, sv, de and couple of other languages and no problems. I tried through a Chinese, Dutch, UK, Brazil and Swedish proxy and no problems. $2 that you got hit by the new Internet Explorer vulnerability and a new spyware got installed that Ad-Aware on those haven't found out about yet.

11-19-2003, 05:32 PM	#69
Mr.Fiction Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Free Speech Land Posts: 9,484	Someone should contact the dialers or do some research and try to find out who's getting paid on the redirected traffic. I'm sure that won't be easy.

11-19-2003, 06:07 PM	#78
MetaMan I AM WEB 2.0 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 28,682	DIALER OWNZ UK

11-19-2003, 06:13 PM	#80
Lensman GFY Chaperone Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Adult.com Posts: 9,846	Post the url that you get redirected to.

11-19-2003, 06:16 PM	#81
Tipsy Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: See sig Posts: 6,989	As I said I don't get redirected and geo stuff usually redirects me with no trouble because the peopl running it don't appreciate the true value of uk traffic. Has to be spyware crap. I presume you've checked your hosts file? __________________ Ignorance is never bliss.

11-19-2003, 06:17 PM	#82
richard Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: UK Posts: 543	My icq is 41012160. Lensman - the url contains hex encoded chars that'll probaby fubar the link. So i put it in a text file: http://gibhar.com/richard/link4lens.txt __________________

11-19-2003, 07:22 PM	#84
Lensman GFY Chaperone Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Adult.com Posts: 9,846	OK, figured it out. We put up the ADS dialer a couple of days ago, and one of our guys put a language redirector for inbound traffic on one of the servers. It' supposed to only be on exits. The good news is that it was only on one of the three gateway servers, so most traffic was not effected. It's fixed. Great catch chemicaleyes. It had us fooled, because the one guy in our office who did it didn't synch the other servers to it.

11-20-2003, 04:12 PM	#87
Smokey The Bear So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In my house Posts: 786	Its a common trick i have noticed lately with dialers that do the geo redirecting themselves. They like to slip some past from normal areas and sludge the traffic. Then they sell off the dialer popup's to hijack the browser to a third party to boot. I noticed this on a bunch of other sponsors lately as well. I wouldnt let the dialers have control unless your monitoring them closely. Tip#1 dont let someone else control your traffic unless your in on the code. Tip#2 watch them like hawks. Im not dissing your sponsor lens , but i have noticed this problem with other sponsors. Suddenly canadians and brits and australians will be redirected for no reason. Its almost like they are doing it on purpose because they know the people checking will be doing it from the usa. Hell it could just be an honest mistake that i happened to notice on 3 seperate sponsors But it seems very suspicious. Like if i cut a deal with you to redirect your traffic that you cant process anyways thru cc card for a certain cut. Who is to say i dont add some ip ranges from good areas to boost my traffic/sales. How would you know ? You wouldnt . Until people started noticing it. With all the hijacking going on , most sponsors might just figure its a hijack or a fluke. And surfers wont know the difference , the only people who would complain is webmasters who are checking links. Again it doesnt affect everyone so just a small percentage of people get ripped and dont realise it, or write it off as an error , come back 2 days later and it works again so they dont bother complaining. Just my opinion though and no particular slant against ads

11-20-2003, 04:42 PM	#88
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	all good here (greece)

11-20-2003, 04:47 PM	#89
MicDoohan Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: California Posts: 791	Well said dude