How Valuable Are Hosted Galleries? - GoFuckYourself.com

Pistol · 11-18-2003, 05:12 AM

Would a few webmasters minding sharing their thoughts as to how valuable or how important hosted galleries are? As a sponsor I kind of feel like we're obliged to provide them but I'm skeptical as to their worth?!

Space Puppy · 11-18-2003, 05:14 AM

I think from a webmasters point of view they are more of a sweetner than anything, certinaly over the last 12 months i have noticed webmasters becoming more and more lazy so far as what they are wanting from affiliates.

From a program owners point of view, hosted galleries will be one thing that i wont be offering affiliates when i launch my program early next year.

Make us work for our money and we'll actually make more of it

$5 submissions · 11-18-2003, 08:48 AM

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Originally posted by Pistol
Would a few webmasters minding sharing their thoughts as to how valuable or how important hosted galleries are? As a sponsor I kind of feel like we're obliged to provide them but I'm skeptical as to their worth?!

There's still definitely a lot of space to innovate when it comes to SHGs. I posted a thread earlier about this there were about 10 or so differing ideas offered by webmasters that use SHGs for their TGPs that sponsors can use to differentiate themselves from their competition.

SHGs are fast becoming a requirement in this biz, new up and coming sponsors may yet win a large affiliate pool by coming up with solutions to webmasters' SHG-related concerns.

brand0n · 11-18-2003, 08:49 AM

its like night and day

if you dont have hosted gallerys, i skip u like the plauge

InsaneGreen · 11-18-2003, 09:04 AM

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Originally posted by $5 submissions

There's still definitely a lot of space to innovate when it comes to SHGs. I posted a thread earlier about this there were about 10 or so differing ideas offered by webmasters that use SHGs for their TGPs that sponsors can use to differentiate themselves from their competition.

SHGs are fast becoming a requirement in this biz, new up and coming sponsors may yet win a large affiliate pool by coming up with solutions to webmasters' SHG-related concerns.

i searched for this thread but i couldnt find it.im very interested of what the ideas are.. please enlighten me?!

InsaneGreen · 11-18-2003, 09:07 AM

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Originally posted by brand0n
its like night and day

if you dont have hosted gallerys, i skip u like the plauge

are you being serious? i dont do tgp's so i dont know really... but wouldnt hosted gallery get very low click thrus? i mean so many webmasters are using them... i always understood it that the sponsor has a few gallerys that they host and they change the pics and all u do is submit it every day... or do i understand it all wrong? wouldnt there be alot of submissions to the tgps with the same exact gallery?

$5 submissions · 11-18-2003, 09:12 AM

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Originally posted by InsaneGreen
i searched for this thread but i couldnt find it.im very interested of what the ideas are.. please enlighten me?!

Here's the link

http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...hreadid=198497

garce · 11-18-2003, 09:13 AM

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Originally posted by $5 submissions

There's still definitely a lot of space to innovate when it comes to SHGs. I posted a thread earlier about this there were about 10 or so differing ideas offered by webmasters that use SHGs for their TGPs that sponsors can use to differentiate themselves from their competition.

I'd be happy if all sponsors would just stop sequentially numbering their fhg's. I cry everytime I see freehostedgallery-175.html, knowing there are 174 other free galleries waiting for nosy surfers.

garce

$5 submissions · 11-18-2003, 09:20 AM

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Originally posted by InsaneGreen

are you being serious? i dont do tgp's so i dont know really... but wouldnt hosted gallery get very low click thrus? i mean so many webmasters are using them... i always understood it that the sponsor has a few gallerys that they host and they change the pics and all u do is submit it every day... or do i understand it all wrong? wouldnt there be alot of submissions to the tgps with the same exact gallery?

Actually, your reaction reveals many of the opportunities that newer sponsors can take advantage of in creating SHGs that will set them apart from existing SHG solutions. One of the key problems is the time and effort needed in presenting SHGs to the surfer. Currently, there are 3 ways to present gallery links in a TGP. Either category with pic # e.g. Teens (16) (like thumbzilla and similar sites) or Fine blonde fucks herself with dildo (like pinkworld) or hybrid text of 16 pics of teen blonde fucking herself

The first textual approach is the easiest. Obviously it does not give the user much info re what he will find. The second two are more labor intensive since these actually involve categorizing and describing the SHG link. (I provide a service that does this exclusively for your TGP for pennies each.)

A completely separate way of showing TGPs are thumbviews like in teeniefiles.com or jpeg4free.com where there are "face" shots or, in the case of thumberland.com, full action shots. Again, these take labor to resize, identify, and categorize.

A sponsor that can offer prelabelled, precut, and predata formatted SHG links that are easy to pick (due to text descriptions or keywords), gather, and load using a shopping cart type system can definitely gain a competitive advantage over other SHG provision systems that require webmasters to do heavy manual labor.

$5 submissions · 11-18-2003, 09:21 AM

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Originally posted by garce

I'd be happy if all sponsors would just stop sequentially numbering their fhg's. I cry everytime I see freehostedgallery-175.html, knowing there are 174 other free galleries waiting for nosy surfers.

garce

VERY good point, garce. Indeed, leacher sites like phatforums thrive on doing sequential leaching of MGP posts. A frequent victim is jp18 and Nasty dollars movie clip samples.

Jake · 11-18-2003, 11:09 AM

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Originally posted by $5 submissions

VERY good point, garce. Indeed, leacher sites like phatforums thrive on doing sequential leaching of MGP posts. A frequent victim is jp18 and Nasty dollars movie clip samples.

necoeds · 11-18-2003, 11:16 AM

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Originally posted by brand0n
its like night and day

if you dont have hosted gallerys, i skip u like the plauge

have you seen my hosted galleries yet?

traffictrader · 11-18-2003, 11:20 AM

If you are interested in trying out hosted galleries, I know triplexcash has a good program for it.

Contact alan on ICQ, his # is 154312406

Evil1 · 11-18-2003, 11:37 AM

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Originally posted by Space Puppy
From a program owners point of view, hosted galleries will be one thing that i wont be offering affiliates when i launch my program early next year.

From a tgp owners point of view, affiliates will be one thing that you wont be getting when you launch your program early next year.

Bex · 11-18-2003, 12:08 PM

Our webmasters seem to really like the hosted galleries we offer them. Some don't use them, but other use them, and use them very well. So I guess it is all personal choice.
It is just another tool for people to use.

Oracle Porn · 11-18-2003, 12:16 PM

didnt read the whole thread but I will say my opinion on hosted galleries..
Hosted galleries can be very good for biz but only if you know what your doing. If you don't you will burn bw and only lose money.
Hosted galleries should NEVER be on the program domain like gigacash.com do.... their urls are gigacash.com/blabla/gallery.html
How hard is it to buy a domain???
Second point hire a designer... and not just a designer, but a designer who knows wtf he is doing and knows how to convert and what works....
Third point is the content. Please use half decent content and not some cheap ass a dime a dozen content....

A sponsor should have at least 50 galleries per site on the program and always submit it to freehostedgalleris.com

thats all I wanted to say

Oracle Porn · 11-18-2003, 12:18 PM

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Originally posted by Bex
Our webmasters seem to really like the hosted galleries we offer them. Some don't use them, but other use them, and use them very well. So I guess it is all personal choice.
It is just another tool for people to use.

hey I forgot my password to nichewealth...what do i do?

Za Ha · 11-18-2003, 12:23 PM

Hosted gals are the only way I send traffic to my sponers.

No hosted gals = I wont use you.

JasonB · 11-18-2003, 12:32 PM

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Originally posted by Oracle Porn

Hosted galleries can be very good for biz but only if you know what your doing. If you don't you will burn bw and only lose money.

That's SO true.
You really have to make sure you KNOW that your galleries will convert because you're in for a HUGE b/w bill.

SixNine · 11-18-2003, 12:47 PM

Kewl thread

Giving webmasters the tools they need is the most important thing an affiliate program can do, and hosted galleries are definetly win/win when it comes to the program having max control of the sales pitch givin' to the affliates surfers.

Also don't forget FHG's make killer free sites to (i.e.; Warning Page, Hub Page with ads linked to 3 sponsor FHG's).

At SoulCash our roots are in TGP's and gallery submitting and it's reflected in our tour designs and FEW THOUSANDS FHG's that convert.

Here's some samples:
MelodyHart.com Sample Gallery
MyWhiteDicks.com Sample Gallery
TastyTranny.com Sample Gallery
ChickTrick.com Sample Gallery
JizzLickers.com Sample Gallery
Triple X Soul Sample Gallery

Plus a grip more for every site in our portfolio.

BTW good idea about random characters in the gallery url... gotta implement that one asap.

If you ever want to test my knowledge of the TGP game or slinging porn in general (or if you want to shoot the shit) hit me on ICQ 27263279

SixNine
SoulCash.com

SixNine · 11-18-2003, 12:53 PM

Double post

blackmonsters · 11-18-2003, 01:04 PM

Any sponsor that does not have hosted galleries is getting left in the fucking dust and BIG TIME!!!

Webmasters with a lot of traffic need something to convert this traffic. A banner would do it but can I put 100 banners on my fucking page????? Hell no! But I can put 500 links to galleries that have two banners each. Hell yes.

I need to spend my time getting more traffic to my sites and not downloading content and building galleries for 50 sponsors.
Also maybe I suck at making galleries and make no sales for the sponsor. I definatley don't make galleries as good as the ones I get from blacksonblondes.com. Sometimes I think about not using BOB so much but those galleries keep them high on my list and I don't send traffic to other interracial sponsors because I don't have time to "Build their fucking business for them".

Sponsors: Make your own fucking galleries and let 1000 webmasters use them instead of waiting for 1000 webmaster to download the exact same content and do it for you.

Bandwidth???????
Give me a break.... How the fuck did I buy content, build galleries, submit to the hun, pay bandwidth and still make money off your 50/50 partnership and some how you cannot.
BULLSHIT!!!

You will make more money from hosted galleries because surfers don't always signup from the galleries but many type-in later and you get 100% of the sell. When I towed the bandwidth I never got 100% of the sale. Also TGPs are more liberal with the ads on hosted galleries because we get all the sales. So you can have more banners or bigger banners and then text links to your other sites that we get paid for. It's my money when I send hits to the gallery so you can load that "sum-bitch" up with ads that make me money.

If you don't have hosted galleries then you will not be considered a serious sponor for me.

I need simple shit like: I join your program, copy some links, send you hits and I get paid. Fuck spending all day downloading content and building galleries for you because I need many sponsors not just one sponsor. The easy to use sponsors get added to my site first and the download-and-do-everything-for-me-sponsor is put on the back burner. I'll get to them someday... maybe in the next two years.

I mean what could be easier... You build some galleries and everybody links them. No auto submit programs needed, no stupid posting rules and black listing, no confirmation email,
no recip bullshit. Refusing to make hosted galleries only means you never truly busted ass a TGP poster before because if you had then there is no way that you would think making hosted galleries is hard or not profitable. If someone like the hun drains the bandwidth with no conversions the just email them and ask them politley to back off the galleries a little. They've been around long enough to understand this.

blackmonsters · 11-18-2003, 01:14 PM

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Originally posted by SixNine

At SoulCash our roots are in TGP's and gallery submitting and it's reflected in our tour designs and FEW THOUSANDS FHG's that convert.

Sponsors: Follow this guys lead.
I saw his sposnorship had hosted galleries; took a couple mins to signup; copied some links, pasted the links in my gallery database and now I'm cashing their fucking checks.
5 mins of work on my part and I'm getting paid a lot of money for that 5 mins. It ain't hard to figure out where the money is.
If I can find another sponsor like this every 5 mins then I should be rich in a week or too.

Bex · 11-18-2003, 02:50 PM

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Originally posted by Oracle Porn

hey I forgot my password to nichewealth...what do i do?

hit me on icq ...

Pistol · 11-18-2003, 04:10 PM

AWESOME responses! Thanks all! We'll start building them today.

BRIAN.

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Bex Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 2,382	Our webmasters seem to really like the hosted galleries we offer them. Some don't use them, but other use them, and use them very well. So I guess it is all personal choice. It is just another tool for people to use. __________________ www.NicheWealth.com

11-18-2003, 12:16 PM	#16
Oracle Porn Affiliate Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Icq: 94-399-723 Posts: 24,433	didnt read the whole thread but I will say my opinion on hosted galleries.. Hosted galleries can be very good for biz but only if you know what your doing. If you don't you will burn bw and only lose money. Hosted galleries should NEVER be on the program domain like gigacash.com do.... their urls are gigacash.com/blabla/gallery.html How hard is it to buy a domain??? Second point hire a designer... and not just a designer, but a designer who knows wtf he is doing and knows how to convert and what works.... Third point is the content. Please use half decent content and not some cheap ass a dime a dozen content.... A sponsor should have at least 50 galleries per site on the program and always submit it to freehostedgalleris.com thats all I wanted to say __________________

11-18-2003, 05:14 AM	#2
Space Puppy So Fucking Banned Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 817	I think from a webmasters point of view they are more of a sweetner than anything, certinaly over the last 12 months i have noticed webmasters becoming more and more lazy so far as what they are wanting from affiliates. From a program owners point of view, hosted galleries will be one thing that i wont be offering affiliates when i launch my program early next year. Make us work for our money and we'll actually make more of it

11-18-2003, 12:23 PM	#18
Za Ha Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Still lost Posts: 5,112	Hosted gals are the only way I send traffic to my sponers. No hosted gals = I wont use you.

11-18-2003, 12:47 PM	#20
SixNine Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: The Sea Town Posts: 1,357	Kewl thread Giving webmasters the tools they need is the most important thing an affiliate program can do, and hosted galleries are definetly win/win when it comes to the program having max control of the sales pitch givin' to the affliates surfers. Also don't forget FHG's make killer free sites to (i.e.; Warning Page, Hub Page with ads linked to 3 sponsor FHG's). At SoulCash our roots are in TGP's and gallery submitting and it's reflected in our tour designs and FEW THOUSANDS FHG's that convert. Here's some samples: MelodyHart.com Sample Gallery MyWhiteDicks.com Sample Gallery TastyTranny.com Sample Gallery ChickTrick.com Sample Gallery JizzLickers.com Sample Gallery Triple X Soul Sample Gallery Plus a grip more for every site in our portfolio. BTW good idea about random characters in the gallery url... gotta implement that one asap. If you ever want to test my knowledge of the TGP game or slinging porn in general (or if you want to shoot the shit) hit me on ICQ 27263279 SixNine SoulCash.com

11-18-2003, 12:53 PM	#21
SixNine Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: The Sea Town Posts: 1,357	Double post

11-18-2003, 01:04 PM	#22
blackmonsters Making PHP work Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: 🌎🌅🌈🌇 Posts: 20,620	Any sponsor that does not have hosted galleries is getting left in the fucking dust and BIG TIME!!! Webmasters with a lot of traffic need something to convert this traffic. A banner would do it but can I put 100 banners on my fucking page????? Hell no! But I can put 500 links to galleries that have two banners each. Hell yes. I need to spend my time getting more traffic to my sites and not downloading content and building galleries for 50 sponsors. Also maybe I suck at making galleries and make no sales for the sponsor. I definatley don't make galleries as good as the ones I get from blacksonblondes.com. Sometimes I think about not using BOB so much but those galleries keep them high on my list and I don't send traffic to other interracial sponsors because I don't have time to "Build their fucking business for them". Sponsors: Make your own fucking galleries and let 1000 webmasters use them instead of waiting for 1000 webmaster to download the exact same content and do it for you. Bandwidth??????? Give me a break.... How the fuck did I buy content, build galleries, submit to the hun, pay bandwidth and still make money off your 50/50 partnership and some how you cannot. BULLSHIT!!! You will make more money from hosted galleries because surfers don't always signup from the galleries but many type-in later and you get 100% of the sell. When I towed the bandwidth I never got 100% of the sale. Also TGPs are more liberal with the ads on hosted galleries because we get all the sales. So you can have more banners or bigger banners and then text links to your other sites that we get paid for. It's my money when I send hits to the gallery so you can load that "sum-bitch" up with ads that make me money. If you don't have hosted galleries then you will not be considered a serious sponor for me. I need simple shit like: I join your program, copy some links, send you hits and I get paid. Fuck spending all day downloading content and building galleries for you because I need many sponsors not just one sponsor. The easy to use sponsors get added to my site first and the download-and-do-everything-for-me-sponsor is put on the back burner. I'll get to them someday... maybe in the next two years. I mean what could be easier... You build some galleries and everybody links them. No auto submit programs needed, no stupid posting rules and black listing, no confirmation email, no recip bullshit. Refusing to make hosted galleries only means you never truly busted ass a TGP poster before because if you had then there is no way that you would think making hosted galleries is hard or not profitable. If someone like the hun drains the bandwidth with no conversions the just email them and ask them politley to back off the galleries a little. They've been around long enough to understand this. __________________ Get paid, get tools, get going with Camsoda Join Chaturbate get your cut of the pie

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Pistol Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 161	AWESOME responses! Thanks all! We'll start building them today. BRIAN. __________________ www.gunzblazing.com www.hardgayfeeds.com www.aebn.net