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Old 11-17-2003, 01:50 PM   #1
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Problem with my kids principal

Curious if others think this is out of line or am I over reacting.

I have a 5 year old in kindergarten. My ex wife has him 3 days a week and I have him 4 days a week and I am the legal primary decision maker of him. Recently my girlfriend moved in with me and she also has a 5 year old. When she went to register him at the same school as my kid the principal asked her if my ex was aware we were living together and she said (the principal) that she needed to make sure it was okay with my ex that her kid was going to be attending the same school. My girlfriend asked her why she needed to call my ex and she said because she knew there was "conflict and tension" between me and my ex, which is completely untrue, we get along fine.

So the principal called my ex and told her the situation. My ex already knew and doesnt care but I think its fucking bullshit that these assholes think they can invade my personal life like this not to mention slander me by telling my girlfriend there is 'tension and conflict'.

Should I just let this go?
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Old 11-17-2003, 01:54 PM   #2
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Fucking principle needs to stay out of your business. If it happens again I would definately do something about it.
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No. I would talk to her and state that the situation is none of her business - and that enrolling in school is enrolling in school.

Call her. I don't think I would let that go easily.
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Principal was completely out of line. I'd just write it off, but if you're really pissed, send a letter to the Super. Don't even bother with the Principal, go right to the head honcho.
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WTF? That sounds like a severe invasion of privacy to me. I think the principal was probably against you living with someone without being married (none of her fucking business) and thought she could get you in trouble or something. I don't know that there is much that you could do about it, but that's just wrong
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call your school board - that is bullshit. with all the privacy issues in schools today, i seriously doubt they're allowed to inform your ex of anything you do. shit, what if she's a nut and goes and blows you away because you're living with another woman?
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WTF that's none of the principal's business who you live with and whom knows about it. That was wrong for her to call anyone.
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Curious if others think this is out of line or am I over reacting.

I have a 5 year old in kindergarten. My ex wife has him 3 days a week and I have him 4 days a week and I am the legal primary decision maker of him. Recently my girlfriend moved in with me and she also has a 5 year old. When she went to register him at the same school as my kid the principal asked her if my ex was aware we were living together and she said (the principal) that she needed to make sure it was okay with my ex that her kid was going to be attending the same school. My girlfriend asked her why she needed to call my ex and she said because she knew there was "conflict and tension" between me and my ex, which is completely untrue, we get along fine.

So the principal called my ex and told her the situation. My ex already knew and doesnt care but I think its fucking bullshit that these assholes think they can invade my personal life like this not to mention slander me by telling my girlfriend there is 'tension and conflict'.

Should I just let this go?
Private or public school? If it is a private school...is it a religious or secular school?
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Shoot the principal in the head and you wont have to deal with that BS anymore.
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Well, what else can you do about that? I don't think you can get a penny from that situation
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WTF? Why would the principle even take it that far? I'd give him/her a call
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Well, what else can you do about that? I don't think you can get a penny from that situation
Ahaha, first thing you do is look for a law suit?
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That is absolutely NOTHING to do with the principal. I would seriously consider taking it to the school board. She's inflating the situation and although she might have had best interests, what she did could be construed as malicious.
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No. I would talk to her and state that the situation is none of her business - and that enrolling in school is enrolling in school.

Call her. I don't think I would let that go easily.
I did speak to the principal and asked her why she felt it to be necessary to 'clear this with my ex' even though I am the legal decision maker. It was the first time I ever spoke to her and she was a fucking bitch, she used the old 'best interest of the kid' bullshit. I think this is nothing more than gender discrimination, she probably feels women are the ones that should be with their kids.
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i hear if you duct tape a towel to a baseball bat, it wont break bones (or at least as easy). that sounds like the route i would take
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I did speak to the principal and asked her why she felt it to be necessary to 'clear this with my ex' even though I am the legal decision maker. It was the first time I ever spoke to her and she was a fucking bitch, she used the old 'best interest of the kid' bullshit. I think this is nothing more than gender discrimination, she probably feels women are the ones that should be with their kids.
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out of line

but I never had a kid in school so I dont know how it works, even myself I cant remember school I was a total dropout
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Public school, I guess I could see it if it was a private school.
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Curious if others think this is out of line or am I over reacting.


Should I just let this go?
No - you are within your rights and the principal was not!! I would suggest calling a lawyer, if nothing else - charge a few site(s) to the principals CC and get them kicked out that way.
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I did speak to the principal and asked her why she felt it to be necessary to 'clear this with my ex' even though I am the legal decision maker. It was the first time I ever spoke to her and she was a fucking bitch, she used the old 'best interest of the kid' bullshit. I think this is nothing more than gender discrimination, she probably feels women are the ones that should be with their kids.
Whoa. This principal has overstepped her boundaries by leaps and bounds. A judge has already made you the primary care giver of this child, not to mention your God given right to determine 'what's in the best interest of the kid'. Not all parents are fruit cakes and some of us really do know what's best for our kids. Why? Because they're OUR kids!!

She's made an inaccurate assumptioin and acted on it. No stretch of the imagination could relate this to the course and scope of her responsibility as principal.

I'd react by making my presence felt at the next board of education meeting in your area. I'd force them to address the situation, the same way she forced her hand in your family: without consideration or permission.



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No - you are within your rights and the principal was not!! I would suggest calling a lawyer, if nothing else - charge a few site(s) to the principals CC and get them kicked out that way.
Actually signing her email up for a few opt-in lists would be better

Unfortunately any recourse will be taken out on the children. We've all had those bitchy school teacher's that forever hate you after your parent has a problem with something they do.
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You know what this might conflict with what everyone else is saying but at least the pricipal was looking out for YOUR child's best interest. I don't agree with the invasion of privacy but at least he/she cares about your kid.

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I would anonymously call her husband (the principles) and tell him that you are a 'concerned faculty member' who thought that he should be aware that his wife is having on-campus affairs with two of the staff members.
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Actually signing her email up for a few opt-in lists would be better

Unfortunately any recourse will be taken out on the children. We've all had those bitchy school teacher's that forever hate you after your parent has a problem with something they do.
Yep, thats the problem. Any boat rocking I do will cause problems for my kid.
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Yep, thats the problem. Any boat rocking I do will cause problems for my kid.
I guess you'll just have to grin and bear it the best you can. On a lighter note, with all the attention on kidnapped kids, school might be advised to investigate any possible situations. Better to be safe than sorry I guess. So at least she is doing her job, even if it's personally offensive.
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That was completely outta line. I would find a new school for my kids, or better yet, homeschool them.

That principal needs a visit from the superintendant, in your presence, to be reviewed on things you do and don't do. If that doesn't help, move the kids to a different school or district altogether, even if you have to drive them yourself.
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you should move out from your Hicksville and move to a bigger city, where you principle doesn?t know what?s going on in your life !
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Please, whatever you do, DON'T let this go. Call the school board and/or the superintendant, and make sure they follow up on it. What she did was a total invasion or privacy, people who abuse their power like that make me sick. Don't let her get away with pulling that shit or she'll just keep doing it.







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Don't use baseball bats or threats. Be a concerned parent and be smart.

Schedule a meeting with your child's principal and before you do, type a letter that you will copy and have sent to the board asking where in the school handbook, you'll find that consulting another parent was in order before enrolling a student that is of no relation to the parent that was consulted. You can get a lot done with concerned parent letters to the Superintendent, and board of Education. Alienating potential families of the school is not the proper stance to take especially when parental involvement in schools is critical and is of benefit to not only your own child but your girlfriends child.

Unless there is a restraining order in effect for biological mom or or your child, there is no reason that biological mom should be
consulted before enrolling a student that is of no relation to her.

If your school is public, they cannot turn away your girlfriends child. If your talking about private school, they would have more latitude, although, tact was surely lacking here. They could have simply said they were full and not take the child if it was a conflict with your child's mom. Sometimes smaller,private schools are on such a personal level with tuition paying parents and for non state funded schools, you might have a little more resistance
if mom has a relationship with the principal. She was wrong to pointedly pry.

I'd still follow through as a "concerned parent".

Schools have to deal with all kinds of unsavory situations and act in unjudgemental fashion for a miriad of crappy parents and bad situations for the children. This woman was out of line to act in this fashion. Partners living together is not unusual.


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I would anonymously call her husband (the principles) and tell him that you are a 'concerned faculty member' who thought that he should be aware that his wife is having on-campus affairs with two of the staff members.

This is the best suggestion.......

along with calling the regional Superintendent of schools and the school board......making the call along with a lawyer would definitely help scare their ass, but I would still do the thing with her husband also!
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Don't use baseball bats or threats. Be a concerned parent and be smart......
yeah i was just joking about using a bat, obviously the best solution would be to have someone else use it
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See that's what happens when women get the slightest hint of power in the workforce...

They become gibbering fools bereft of anything resembling rationality...

Make an example of her so that other women know where their place is!
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See that's what happens when women get the slightest hint of power in the workforce...

They become gibbering fools bereft of anything resembling rationality...

Make an example of her so that other women know where their place is!

Well I hate to say it but there is a lot of truth to what you said. I have seen plenty of times in my life where women in some type of managerial position let their hormones get the best of them and act completely irrational. Not putting women down, I love women most the time, and not all women do this but it does happen.
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write (type) a letter and send it via registered mail asking her to explain herself. if you're not satisfied with the response you can always follow it up
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go to her office and tell her straight on her face that it's your business and not hers!!!
nosey bitch (the principal)!!!!!!
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go to her office and tell her straight on her face that it's your business and not hers!!!
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but thats not fair to his kid(s)
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sounds like you tried to speak with the principal to no avail. Definitely take it up with the school board or superintendant. Even if your ex did have a problem with this situation, the principal could in no way turn down the enrollment of any child. Sounds like she may be friends with your ex or all those rubber cement fumes have gone to her head.
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There were a couple of valid suggestions given...

I'd take it to the next level.. her boss... Explain what she did/said.. and how she said it (if she was being a bitch about it) Ask them if they agree with these tactics and invasion of privacy, then demand that action be taken against this principal for such invasion and using her powers in an unprofessional manner..

Then let her boss know that if nothing is done, you will take it to the board.. the super.. the state.. and whomever else you need to take it to in order to make sure this type of nonsense doesn't happen again.. and your x should be with you the whole way in that the two of you are in harmony and no friction exists..
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I'd be finding out when the next school board meeting was and be sitting in the front row when it took up with a real attitude going on. Maybe its ok in YOUR state but its not in this one and that principle would be walking egg shells as long as my kid was in her school. As well as having it in her permanent folder.
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Old 11-17-2003, 06:19 PM   #45
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it is probably one of those things that you have to let go.

When people are mean spirited towards me or do something like stab me in the back. I usually tend to be overly nice to them..it confuses them. I believe it also tends to reverse their intent unless they are just pissed at the world...lol
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Old 11-17-2003, 06:46 PM   #46
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The obvious question here is are you public about the nature of the business you are in? If you are, this (sadly) explains the principle's attitude toward you and your girlfriend. If you have children school age or younger, you have responsibility as their parent to keep your mouth shut about your business. Even though they may enjoy countless fruits of your labor and their life be greatly enhanced by the money you make (however you make it), they are children and other children (and adults) can be cruel. Your actions will be judged and they will be treated according to those judgements however unfair or amoral that may be. Rule number one for anyone in the adult business with kids ( or may one day have them) is to keep your work a secret. It is not a matter of being ashamed or embarrassed of what you do, but a matter of following the path of least resistance where our children are concerned. If you are public in any way about your business ( trusted friends and/or family never keep your secrets), then you need to drop this. Do not draw any more attention to yourself or your child. Be ever watchful of the people they are exposed to at school and out, but don't let YOUR emotions in this case or any other over-ride your common sense. If you are already talked about, going to the school board or making any trouble at all will result in more gossip/tongue wagging at your child's expense. Voices carry.
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Old 11-17-2003, 07:10 PM   #47
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This is an addition to my last reply...


This lady will not lose her job over this even if you hire Johnnie Cochran and Alan Derschowitz. Her actions have already proven her to be an unfair and emotion-ruled nitwit. Why antagonize an unreasonable person in a position of authority in your children's lives? You have 2 choices, STFU and try to kill them with kindness or take those 2 kids to another school district far enough away for your business affairs not to follow you. If you ex-wife knows of your affairs, this will not even work because she will follow your child with her mouth.
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Old 11-17-2003, 07:12 PM   #48
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that is bullshit i would b pissed, i hate stupid ass do gooders. these type of people cause problems for the world and think they are always correct. please march right down to the school and fuck the principal in the ass and stamp a big F on her forehead. i am sick of do gooders and the weight they bring to society for no reason, and same with moms in vans.
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Old 11-17-2003, 07:14 PM   #49
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Principal was completely out of line. I'd just write it off, but if you're really pissed, send a letter to the Super. Don't even bother with the Principal, go right to the head honcho.
Fuck that, call the Super!

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Old 11-17-2003, 07:32 PM   #50
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Call up local news stations, Go the pubic school board.

Then Acquire a free scholarship to a private school that is being paid by the state and us taxpayers. Then have that principle resign with all the news hype.



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