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StuartD · 11-11-2003, 12:21 PM

Let's say that I know someone who can make $1000 for you. It might take them a day or even a week, but they can do it.

Now, I can't make any money for you myself... I don't know how. But I know this person who does.

So, after hooking this person up to make you that grand, would you still want to screw me out of money?

Where am I going with this?

Well, after operating my site for a while, there's one thing I've come to realize about a lot of programs in this industry..... if you don't make them money yourself, a lot of them just won't give you any money in return.

There are sites out there that I have made a lot of referrals to... and those referrals have made them a lot of money. And they have webmaster referral programs where I'm supposed to make a % or a bonus or what ever.

Do I ever see it? Not a dime. Why? Because I'm not making sales for them directly.

Does it matter that I just sent them 20 people? 30 people? Does it matter than they've made an extra $1000? $5000?? Nope.

So long as I don't produce some sales for them myself, I never see a dime of the referral money.

So I ask again... if I could hook you up with someone who could make you $1000 right now... would you screw me out of money?

klik · 11-11-2003, 12:26 PM

some programs to that.. some programs don't

i know you should be promoting it at least a little bit, why refer people to a program that you do not promote?

but i know some want you to be ACTIVELY promoting it in order to still get checks from webmaster referral income..

CDSmith · 11-11-2003, 12:28 PM

I don't think it is unreasonable for a program to insist that your account be active and a least a little bit productive. If it is in their TOS, then simply don't sign up if you can't abide by their rules.

But you're right, holding onto referral money that you earned isn't a good thing either. Best thing you can do is just find a way to work within the system, and check with the admin of a program before you go referring new people as to whether you have to make your own sales or not.

jact · 11-11-2003, 12:31 PM

So basically, what klik and CDSmith are saying is that a resource like SponsorsList is moot, because you expect him to be pushing over 700 sponsors actively? Come on.

StuartD · 11-11-2003, 12:33 PM

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Originally posted by CDSmith
I don't think it is unreasonable for a program to insist that your account be active and a least a little bit productive. If it is in their TOS, then simply don't sign up if you can't abide by their rules.

But you're right, holding onto referral money that you earned isn't a good thing either. Best thing you can do is just find a way to work within the system, and check with the admin of a program before you go referring new people as to whether you have to make your own sales or not.

Yeah, I agree... well, if I was in it for the money (isn't everyone?) then I'd just stop referring people.

But that's not my nature... I'll continue on referring people regardless of me getting the money. I like to think that my site isn't just helping the program, it's helping those people I referred... if they get sales, then my job is done.

but me having the money isn't the issue, it's them being willing to pay me. I mean, it's the actual act of it.... nickle and diming the guy who is bringing them affiliates who can convert just doesn't seem right to me.

sherie · 11-11-2003, 12:35 PM

I wouldn't screw you out of your money! nonono!

the Shemp · 11-11-2003, 12:44 PM

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Originally posted by MaskedMan
Let's say that I know someone who can make $1000 for you. It might take them a day or even a week, but they can do it.

Now, I can't make any money for you myself... I don't know how. But I know this person who does.

So, after hooking this person up to make you that grand, would you still want to screw me out of money?

Where am I going with this?

Well, after operating my site for a while, there's one thing I've come to realize about a lot of programs in this industry..... if you don't make them money yourself, a lot of them just won't give you any money in return.

There are sites out there that I have made a lot of referrals to... and those referrals have made them a lot of money. And they have webmaster referral programs where I'm supposed to make a % or a bonus or what ever.

Do I ever see it? Not a dime. Why? Because I'm not making sales for them directly.

Does it matter that I just sent them 20 people? 30 people? Does it matter than they've made an extra $1000? $5000?? Nope.

So long as I don't produce some sales for them myself, I never see a dime of the referral money.

So I ask again... if I could hook you up with someone who could make you $1000 right now... would you screw me out of money?

you should tell me who the you have the most referrals with and is not paying you. I will sign up with them, you can use my referral code instead, and i will pay you for the spot.

StuartD · 11-11-2003, 01:02 PM

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Originally posted by the Shemp

you should tell me who the you have the most referrals with and is not paying you. I will sign up with them, you can use my referral code instead, and i will pay you for the spot.

You're the best Shemp... in an industry full of different shades of gray.... one thing I'll always know without a shadow of a doubt is that you truly are one of the good guys

LadyMischief · 11-11-2003, 01:08 PM

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Originally posted by the Shemp

you should tell me who the you have the most referrals with and is not paying you. I will sign up with them, you can use my referral code instead, and i will pay you for the spot.

Now THAT is a standup kind of thing..

I really don't get why programs would be that tight-fisted.. especially if the people you are sending them are productive, honest affiliates. We used to pay our models for their referrals, I know a LOT of people pay finder's fees and whatnot.. why the HELL wouldn't programs be willing to put out for that? Just seems low and cheap, to me.

the Shemp · 11-11-2003, 01:08 PM

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Originally posted by MaskedMan

You're the best Shemp... in an industry full of different shades of gray.... one thing I'll always know without a shadow of a doubt is that you truly are one of the good guys

nah, im just looking to make some $$ off you.

CDSmith · 11-11-2003, 01:09 PM

If I ran a site like sponsorlist I would be contacting sponsors directly, before sending referrals to them, and negotiate a special deal so that I would ensure being paid for my referrals. The ones that will not pay under any circumstances simply would not be included in the site, simple as that.

And that's a damn good offer from Shemp. Nice to see good stuff like that once in a while.

StuartD · 11-11-2003, 01:10 PM

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Originally posted by the Shemp
nah, im just looking to make some $$ off you.

This explains why you were trying to sell me on the street corner....

twice.

jact · 11-11-2003, 02:20 PM

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Originally posted by CDSmith
If I ran a site like sponsorlist I would be contacting sponsors directly, before sending referrals to them, and negotiate a special deal so that I would ensure being paid for my referrals. The ones that will not pay under any circumstances simply would not be included in the site, simple as that.

And that's a damn good offer from Shemp. Nice to see good stuff like that once in a while.

That's a whole lot of contacting, and considering that 9/10 a sponsor never bothers to return emails, icqs or other forms of communications (At least, this is what I've found)...

Raven · 11-11-2003, 02:53 PM

I don't think it unreasonable for you to write to you sponsor and ask them to make a deal with you.

The worst they can say is no.

the Shemp · 11-11-2003, 03:01 PM

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Originally posted by MaskedMan

This explains why you were trying to sell me on the street corner....

twice.

you didnt complain until there was a chargeback

stocktrader23 · 11-11-2003, 03:11 PM

I like Shemp more and more every day.

11-11-2003, 12:21 PM	#1
StuartD Sofa King Band Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Outside the box Posts: 29,903	webmaser refferals are no good unless you make sales as well Let's say that I know someone who can make $1000 for you. It might take them a day or even a week, but they can do it. Now, I can't make any money for you myself... I don't know how. But I know this person who does. So, after hooking this person up to make you that grand, would you still want to screw me out of money? Where am I going with this? Well, after operating my site for a while, there's one thing I've come to realize about a lot of programs in this industry..... if you don't make them money yourself, a lot of them just won't give you any money in return. There are sites out there that I have made a lot of referrals to... and those referrals have made them a lot of money. And they have webmaster referral programs where I'm supposed to make a % or a bonus or what ever. Do I ever see it? Not a dime. Why? Because I'm not making sales for them directly. Does it matter that I just sent them 20 people? 30 people? Does it matter than they've made an extra $1000? $5000?? Nope. So long as I don't produce some sales for them myself, I never see a dime of the referral money. So I ask again... if I could hook you up with someone who could make you $1000 right now... would you screw me out of money? __________________ This is me on facebook This is me on twitter

11-11-2003, 12:28 PM	#3
CDSmith Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: My network is hosted at TECHIEMEDIA.net ...Wait, you meant where am I located at? Oh... okay, I'm in Winnipeg, Canada. Oops. :) Posts: 51,460	I don't think it is unreasonable for a program to insist that your account be active and a least a little bit productive. If it is in their TOS, then simply don't sign up if you can't abide by their rules. But you're right, holding onto referral money that you earned isn't a good thing either. Best thing you can do is just find a way to work within the system, and check with the admin of a program before you go referring new people as to whether you have to make your own sales or not. __________________ *Promote Wildmatch, ImLive, Sexier.com, and more!!* ALWAYS THE HIGHEST PAYOUTS: Big Bux/ImLive SIGNUP ON NOW!!! Put some PUSSYCA$H in your pocket. ICQ me at: 31024634

11-11-2003, 12:31 PM	#4
jact Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Oakville, Canada Posts: 9,134	So basically, what klik and CDSmith are saying is that a resource like SponsorsList is moot, because you expect him to be pushing over 700 sponsors actively? Come on. __________________ Free agent

11-11-2003, 12:35 PM	#6
sherie Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 7,020	I wouldn't screw you out of your money! nonono! __________________ AIM sherierocks ICQ 127-296-286 Skype traffichor

11-11-2003, 01:09 PM	#11
CDSmith Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: My network is hosted at TECHIEMEDIA.net ...Wait, you meant where am I located at? Oh... okay, I'm in Winnipeg, Canada. Oops. :) Posts: 51,460	If I ran a site like sponsorlist I would be contacting sponsors directly, before sending referrals to them, and negotiate a special deal so that I would ensure being paid for my referrals. The ones that will not pay under any circumstances simply would not be included in the site, simple as that. And that's a damn good offer from Shemp. Nice to see good stuff like that once in a while. __________________ *Promote Wildmatch, ImLive, Sexier.com, and more!!* ALWAYS THE HIGHEST PAYOUTS: Big Bux/ImLive SIGNUP ON NOW!!! Put some PUSSYCA$H in your pocket. ICQ me at: 31024634

11-11-2003, 12:26 PM	#2
klik Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: san diego Posts: 5,092	some programs to that.. some programs don't i know you should be promoting it at least a little bit, why refer people to a program that you do not promote? but i know some want you to be ACTIVELY promoting it in order to still get checks from webmaster referral income..

11-11-2003, 02:53 PM	#14
Raven Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 6,874	I don't think it unreasonable for you to write to you sponsor and ask them to make a deal with you. The worst they can say is no. __________________ Raven ~RETIRED~

11-11-2003, 03:11 PM	#16
stocktrader23 Let's do some business. Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The dirty south. Posts: 18,781	I like Shemp more and more every day.