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Old 11-08-2003, 02:17 PM   #1
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Legendary Lars.. $20 or 20%

Which do you use and how has it done?

I thought I'd give the program a try and signed up for the 20% option last night. Several free signups but no $ from it as of the stats update this morning.

Also..am I correct in that the stats only update once a day?
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Old 11-08-2003, 02:17 PM   #2
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Fuck I have been meaning to switch my cams over to Lars for a while. Thanks for reminding me
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Old 11-08-2003, 02:18 PM   #3
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I'm not real familiar with his program, but I'm sure it takes some time for the free joins to convert into cash. At least it does with other programs...
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Old 11-08-2003, 02:18 PM   #4
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I hear this mother fucker is Legendary!
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Old 11-08-2003, 02:18 PM   #5
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Yep, only one update a day and some absolutely terrible ratios.
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Old 11-08-2003, 02:19 PM   #6
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Fuck I have been meaning to switch my cams over to Lars for a while. Thanks for reminding me
Gee.. well let me whore myself and sign up under me..

http://webmasters.legendarylars.com/?Ref=pkallars
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Old 11-08-2003, 02:20 PM   #7
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PK, is this trial something your doing because clickcash is shrinking or is it purely for another rev stream?

Do not really expect a reply, just super curious.
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Old 11-08-2003, 02:21 PM   #8
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The 20% is doing pretty good
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Old 11-08-2003, 02:21 PM   #9
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Which do you use and how has it done?

I thought I'd give the program a try and signed up for the 20% option last night. Several free signups but no $ from it as of the stats update this morning.

Also..am I correct in that the stats only update once a day?
i went the 20% option.
its a good program
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Old 11-08-2003, 02:22 PM   #10
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PK, is this trial something your doing because clickcash is shrinking or is it purely for another rev stream?

Do not really expect a reply, just super curious.
Clickcash is steady as always for me. I try most programs at some point and with this one it's currently just a text link to a cobrand page so there's no huge ad or anything.
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Old 11-08-2003, 02:23 PM   #11
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i went the 20% option.
its a good program
Did it take a few days to see some $$?
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Old 11-08-2003, 02:23 PM   #12
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Clickcash is steady as always for me. I try most programs at some point and with this one it's currently just a text link to a cobrand page so there's no huge ad or anything.
Cool thanks. I know you been with clickcash forever. Figure if anyone could judge how well they are doing it would be you. Will continue promoting em.
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Old 11-08-2003, 02:24 PM   #13
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Im running the 20% program.... working good for me

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Old 11-08-2003, 02:25 PM   #14
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Gee.. well let me whore myself and sign up under me..

http://webmasters.legendarylars.com/?Ref=pkallars
I think I'll give it a go....
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Old 11-08-2003, 02:26 PM   #15
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i went the 20% option.
its a good program
so did i -been getting steady payouts every two weeks from lars on it since 2000
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Old 11-08-2003, 02:32 PM   #16
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Did it take a few days to see some $$?
yes, i would give it a couple of days
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Old 11-08-2003, 02:35 PM   #17
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actually I was a little pissed the first month I used lars back in 2000, i made a few hundred bucks and would have made more from the same spot promoting someone else so I dropped him. then for about 8 months I kept getting checks(with no promotion), so finally I realized that his system DOES work but it takes time and now it's a perminant fixture of my website.
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Old 11-08-2003, 02:40 PM   #18
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I signed up to his per signup deal when he was buying banners on GFY. Just on exits I have got a ton of free signups. Now the same traffic is going to him as before but my check keeps getting bigger. I imagine it's from free signups converting somewhere down the line.
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Old 11-08-2003, 02:42 PM   #19
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I signed up to his per signup deal when he was buying banners on GFY. Just on exits I have got a ton of free signups. Now the same traffic is going to him as before but my check keeps getting bigger. I imagine it's from free signups converting somewhere down the line.
The $20 isn't on free signups tho is it? I thought it was on the first approved money transaction.
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Old 11-08-2003, 04:03 PM   #20
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The $20 isn't on free signups tho is it? I thought it was on the first approved money transaction.
No, it's just on transactions. I meant more and more people are spending money eventually. Maybe he emails them ads or something from time to time?
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Old 11-08-2003, 05:20 PM   #21
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I do ok with the 20%.

A lot of free sign ups with nothing purchased but you own those surfers for life so you are going to hook some big spenders as well as get a good residual income down the line.

IMHO I think the surfer gets too much for free compared with Ifriends or other platforms.

They get free videochat for 5 minutes.
When that runs out they refresh/hit back for another free five minutes.
They can keep doing this until the model goes into private or nude paid chat.
Then they pick another model and repeat the process without spending a dime.

Maybe all the free teasing drives horny surfers crazy until they just HAVE to bust out their credit card?? I think a lot of them get addicted to a particular girl and think they are gonna marry them or something.

Apparently this business model is working though as Lars seems to be doing great and CeCash have just come on board promoting the program.
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Old 11-08-2003, 05:34 PM   #22
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speaking of stuff. how the hell come when i submit a tgp to persian kitty it never gets listed .. i remember a few years back getting listed in but now, nothing , natta, zilch, i guess the big tgp sites have gone pay :/ its a shame
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Old 11-09-2003, 03:55 PM   #23
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20% currently pays way way more than $20 up front program.

Average person who signs up spends about $700 or so but it takes about a year to get it outta them. So over that period of time at 20% the average guy is about $140 commission. We are adding another couple of processors soon and this should increase the conversion ratio a bit more I also have plans to raise the $20 up front a bit, just still tweaking the numbers.

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Old 11-10-2003, 11:33 AM   #24
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Old 11-10-2003, 11:38 AM   #25
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What's an average per unique signup rate for free sign ups?
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Old 11-10-2003, 11:57 AM   #26
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I would go with the percentage.

From member area traffic Lars outsells click cash 5 to 1

I don't know how the free site traffic is doing but I got a check from Lars last week from my free site traffic and I have not sent him a click in over a year.
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Old 11-10-2003, 12:21 PM   #27
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% is the way to go with Lars.
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Old 11-10-2003, 01:30 PM   #29
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PK conversion from unique to free signup varies. Usually if the ratio is 10% of uniques convert to free signup, I know that company is gonna make great $ with us. If the conversion is 3%-5% thats prolly around average traffic. Typically it takes about 6 months of sending steady traffic to get to the sweet spot in the earnings curve, where you reach max income, as more and more customers become recurring users.
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Old 11-10-2003, 02:13 PM   #30
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Gee.. well let me whore myself and sign up under me..

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Old 11-10-2003, 02:30 PM   #31
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I may have missed it earlier in the thread, but what's an average free-signup member to paid member ratio?
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Old 11-10-2003, 03:39 PM   #32
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PK conversion from unique to free signup varies. Usually if the ratio is 10% of uniques convert to free signup, I know that company is gonna make great $ with us. If the conversion is 3%-5% thats prolly around average traffic. Typically it takes about 6 months of sending steady traffic to get to the sweet spot in the earnings curve, where you reach max income, as more and more customers become recurring users.
I've been sending SE traffic for about 2 weeks now and I average around 10-15% free signup rate per unique. I don't have enough data to figure out what my free to pay conversion is though. Lars, can you give us any data on that?
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I've been sending SE traffic for about 2 weeks now and I average around 10-15% free signup rate per unique. I don't have enough data to figure out what my free to pay conversion is though. Lars, can you give us any data on that?
yeah that would be interesting data...
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Old 11-10-2003, 04:38 PM   #34
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Would you guys thing like our company/program more if I dressed in shiny clothes?

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Old 11-11-2003, 02:56 PM   #35
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On the conversion from unique to pay, as with all traffic it really varies. but on average we prolly do aroune 1 in 500 or so, but we have people who are doing 1 in 100 and we also have people doing 1 in 10000 so not sure if that answers the ? but the reality is if ya wanna find out if we can convert your traffic you have to send some. If it converts send more if its crap stop. But give us a fair test. A month of a good text link will usually tell if its gonna be successful or not.
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