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 Legendary Lars..  $20 or 20% 
		
		
		Which do you use and how has it done? 
	I thought I'd give the program a try and signed up for the 20% option last night. Several free signups but no $ from it as of the stats update this morning. Also..am I correct in that the stats only update once a day?  | 
		
 Fuck I have been meaning to switch my cams over to Lars for a while. Thanks for reminding me :) 
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 I'm not real familiar with his program, but I'm sure it takes some time for the free joins to convert into cash.  At least it does with other programs... 
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 I hear this mother fucker is Legendary! 
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 Yep, only one update a day and some absolutely terrible ratios. 
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 PK, is this trial something your doing because clickcash is shrinking or is it purely for another rev stream? 
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 The 20% is doing pretty good :thumbsup 
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 Im running the 20% program.... working good for me :thumbsup  
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 actually I was a little pissed the first month I used lars back in 2000, i made a few hundred bucks and would have made more from the same spot promoting someone else so I dropped him.  then for about 8 months I kept getting checks(with no promotion), so finally I realized that his system DOES work but it takes time and now it's a perminant fixture of my website. 
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 I signed up to his per signup deal when he was buying banners on GFY.  Just on exits I have  got a ton of free signups.  Now the same traffic is going to him as before but my check keeps getting bigger.  I imagine it's from free signups converting somewhere down the line. 
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 I do ok with the 20%. 
	A lot of free sign ups with nothing purchased but you own those surfers for life so you are going to hook some big spenders as well as get a good residual income down the line. IMHO I think the surfer gets too much for free compared with Ifriends or other platforms. They get free videochat for 5 minutes. When that runs out they refresh/hit back for another free five minutes. They can keep doing this until the model goes into private or nude paid chat. Then they pick another model and repeat the process without spending a dime. Maybe all the free teasing drives horny surfers crazy until they just HAVE to bust out their credit card?? I think a lot of them get addicted to a particular girl and think they are gonna marry them or something. Apparently this business model is working though as Lars seems to be doing great and CeCash have just come on board promoting the program. :2 cents: :thumbsup  | 
		
 speaking of stuff. how the hell come when i submit a tgp to persian kitty it never gets listed .. i remember a few years back getting listed in but now, nothing , natta, zilch, i guess the big tgp sites have gone pay :/ its a shame 
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 20% currently pays way way more than $20 up front program. 
	Average person who signs up spends about $700 or so but it takes about a year to get it outta them. So over that period of time at 20% the average guy is about $140 commission. We are adding another couple of processors soon and this should increase the conversion ratio a bit more :) I also have plans to raise the $20 up front a bit, just still tweaking the numbers. Thanks for giving me a shot PK :) Kiltboy AKA legendary Lars :) Kiltboy was my handle back in teh YNOT days in 1995-1996 ish periods.  | 
		
 if anyone has questions about this program, feel free to contact 
	me at sean AT streamray.com or ICQ 147498861  | 
		
 What's an average per unique signup rate for free sign ups? 
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 I would go with the percentage. 
	From member area traffic Lars outsells click cash 5 to 1 I don't know how the free site traffic is doing but I got a check from Lars last week from my free site traffic and I have not sent him a click in over a year.  | 
		
 % is the way to go with Lars. 
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 PK conversion from unique to free signup varies. Usually if the ratio is 10% of uniques convert to free signup, I know that company is gonna make great $ with us. If the conversion is 3%-5% thats prolly around average traffic.  Typically it takes about 6 months of sending steady traffic to get to the sweet spot in the earnings curve, where you reach max income, as more and more customers become recurring users. 
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 I may have missed it earlier in the thread, but what's an average free-signup member to paid member ratio? 
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 Would you guys thing like our company/program more if I dressed in shiny clothes? 
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 On the conversion from unique to pay, as with all traffic it really varies. but on average we prolly do aroune 1 in 500 or so, but we have people who are doing 1 in 100 and we also have people doing 1 in 10000 so not sure if that answers the ? but the reality is if ya wanna find out if we can convert your traffic you have to send some. If it converts send more if its crap stop. But give us a fair test. A month of a good  text link will usually tell if its gonna be successful or not. 
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