CONFIRMED: Affiliate programs are giving Acacia their member Information.... - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

Bladewire · 10-22-2003, 04:09 PM

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Originally posted by Stud Money
Wouldnt some kind of data protection law make this illegal?

Or perhaps something along the lines of altering the initial contract the affiliate signed up for?

I would think so. Man we need an attorney to speak up now. This is a grey area.

Either way we need to boycott anyone who is a part of this.

We need more names. Someone post a list of the 54 companies that have setteled so we have a list to work from.

Anyone have this list? And I'm NOT saying that all 54 companies gave out info out.. I'm saying a list to work from to see who we have affiliate accounts with and who MIGHT have been behind leaking information.

BRISK · 10-22-2003, 04:10 PM

I will not promote any affiliate program that gives the personal information of its affiliates to Acacia.

jimmyf · 10-22-2003, 04:11 PM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX
For those who have NOT gotten anything yet, Acacias address is less than a couple hours from me and the postmark on the letter was yesterday.

So depending where you are check your boxes the next couple of days.

No doubt more letters are in transit right now.

Well they shouldn't be hard for you 2 find. Can't be anyone else that lives in Death Valley but you and them.

InsaneGreen · 10-22-2003, 04:12 PM

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Originally posted by InsaneGreen
i got my first letter today as well. and now that i think about it acacia had to have gotten it from a sponsor. the only people that have this adress is sponsers, none of my whois info or anything else goes to this address. same with content. my dredit cards have a different address than this address so i use that address with content companys...

im gonna figure out which sponsor gave out my info. can someone link me to a list of sponsors that have signed?

it was the last post on the last page, i wanted to make sure it was read...

SmartAdultMovies · 10-22-2003, 04:13 PM

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Originally posted by Squirtit

I would think so. Man we need an attorney to speak up now. This is a grey area.

Either way we need to boycott anyone who is a part of this.

We need more names. Someone post a list of the 54 companies that have setteled so we have a list to work from.

Anyone have this list? And I'm NOT saying that all 54 companies gave out info out.. I'm saying a list to work from to see who we have affiliate accounts with and who MIGHT have been behind leaking information.

Yes, I would very much like to see this list also.

I am signed up with 30+ affiliate programs and I can guarentee you that I'll be withdrawling from each and every one that is on the list just for safe measure.

BRISK · 10-22-2003, 04:14 PM

This is a list of companies that have settled with Acacia:

Hustler websites
Vivid Entertainment
Wicked Pictures

Copy this and add to the list

Who else has settled?

jimmyf · 10-22-2003, 04:14 PM

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Originally posted by InsaneGreen

it was the last post on the last page, i wanted to make sure it was read...

where is the last post on the last page please? this board is full of post about them.

goBigtime · 10-22-2003, 04:16 PM

Note to self:

When giving out ANY physical address on the internet, always encode it like so:

Joe Blow
1234 Conspiring Way. p03
Anytown, Ca 90210

Or

Joe Blow
1234 Conspiring Way.
Anytown, CA 90210 p03

OR

Joe Blow
1234 Conspiring Way.
Authorization Code: p03
Anytown, CA 90210

P03 could stand for "program 03" or whatever I want.

Same goes for email... I should always encode my emails like [email protected] and use a "catch all" address on that account.

That way it's easy to know who is selling my email, and easy to blacklist people who do.

jimmyf · 10-22-2003, 04:16 PM

I know if I get one, to my home it has to be a sponsor, because all my domain's are Reg. 2 a freinds company address.

InsaneGreen · 10-22-2003, 04:17 PM

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Originally posted by jimmyf
where is the last post on the last page please? this board is full of post about them.

the 50th post on the page before this one (page 1)
lol

Bladewire · 10-22-2003, 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by InsaneGreen
i got my first letter today as well. and now that i think about it acacia had to have gotten it from a sponsor. the only people that have this adress is sponsers, none of my whois info or anything else goes to this address. same with content. my dredit cards have a different address than this address so i use that address with content companys...

im gonna figure out which sponsor gave out my info. can someone link me to a list of sponsors that have signed?

SOMEONE PLEASE POST A LIST OF COMPANIES THAT HAVE SIGNED WITH ACACIA... 54 total I believe.

Hustler websites
Vivid Entertainment
Wicked Pictures

Kimmykim · 10-22-2003, 04:18 PM

couple of things here.

First off, why would Acacia be sending legal documents to an account name instead of the persons name? Obviously if they have the address, they know who the pay to is on the check. No attorney would send docs to someone calling them by anything other than their correct and legal name.

Second, withdrawing from programs that you've already signed up to isn't going to make any difference, since they have your information on file.

MetaformX · 10-22-2003, 04:19 PM

mother f- - - - - - !

LadyMischief · 10-22-2003, 04:19 PM

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Originally posted by jimmyf
I know if I get one, to my home it has to be a sponsor, because all my domain's are Reg. 2 a freinds company address.

That's going to get your domains pulled, you do realize. Or at least, it may.

Bladewire · 10-22-2003, 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by goBigtime
Note to self:

When giving out ANY physical address on the internet, always encode it like so:

Joe Blow
1234 Conspiring Way. p03
Anytown, Ca 90210

Or

Joe Blow
1234 Conspiring Way.
Anytown, CA 90210 p03

OR

Joe Blow
1234 Conspiring Way.
Authorization Code: p03
Anytown, CA 90210

P03 could stand for "program 03" or whatever I want.

Same goes for email... I should always encode my emails like [email protected] and use a "catch all" address on that account.

That way it's easy to know who is selling my email, and easy to blacklist people who do.

That's what I did!

Sponsor 1:

Myname1
address
[email protected]

Sponsor 2:

Myname2
address
[email protected]

Sponsor 3:

Myname3
address
[email protected]

Worked like a charm for weeding out the assholes that sold those addressed to SPAMMERS!!!

Stud Money · 10-22-2003, 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim
couple of things here.

First off, why would Acacia be sending legal documents to an account name instead of the persons name? Obviously if they have the address, they know who the pay to is on the check. No attorney would send docs to someone calling them by anything other than their correct and legal name.

Second, withdrawing from programs that you've already signed up to isn't going to make any difference, since they have your information on file.

Mmmmm KimmyKim

Hows the pooches after Aly's doggy sitting the other night?

InsaneGreen · 10-22-2003, 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Squirtit

That's what I did!

Sponsor 1:

Myname1
address
[email protected]

Sponsor 2:

Myname2
address
[email protected]

Sponsor 3:

Myname3
address
[email protected]

Worked like a charm for weeding out the assholes that sold those addressed to SPAMMERS!!!

ive always been doing that. but acacia didnt put my email address in the letter they sent... they didnt even list any of my sites. kinda seemed like they just hoped i was streaming videos, which i am not...

Far-L · 10-22-2003, 04:22 PM

KimmyKim: That is not correct, tons of people have been getting the letter addressed to company names and are being delivered at po boxes with no signature requirements.

jimmyf · 10-22-2003, 04:22 PM

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Originally posted by LadyMischief

That's going to get your domains pulled, you do realize. Or at least, it may.

why if i get mail he gives it to me, besides I do part time work for him very part time. has my correct phone number in Reg. had 2 get caller ID and another phone because of the calls.

goBigtime · 10-22-2003, 04:22 PM

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Originally posted by Kimmykim

Second, withdrawing from programs that you've already signed up to isn't going to make any difference, since they have your information on file.

KK, I don't think they are talking about withdrawing from a company so that information is erased. I think they are talking about boycotts ya know?

BRISK · 10-22-2003, 04:23 PM

I will not promote any affiliate program that gives the personal information of its affiliates to Acacia.

Bladewire · 10-22-2003, 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim
couple of things here.

First off, why would Acacia be sending legal documents to an account name instead of the persons name? Obviously if they have the address, they know who the pay to is on the check. No attorney would send docs to someone calling them by anything other than their correct and legal name.

Kim.. no offense.. but denial is not going to result in taking care of this issue. I have told you, and others have attested, that this is what they are doing. And thank God they did it this way because now we know that some sponsors have sold us out!

Quote:

Second, withdrawing from programs that you've already signed up to isn't going to make any difference, since they have your information on file. [/B]

I'm advocating Boycotting programs that have done this to us.. not withdrawing. Changing information will be usefull on programs that have not settled with Acacia.

Fletch XXX · 10-22-2003, 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim
couple of things here.

First off, why would Acacia be sending legal documents to an account name instead of the persons name? Obviously if they have the address, they know who the pay to is on the check. No attorney would send docs to someone calling them by anything other than their correct and legal name.

Mine is addressed to a word I made up;)

*shrugs*

SetTheWorldonFire · 10-22-2003, 04:24 PM

what an invasion of privacy

Bladewire · 10-22-2003, 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by InsaneGreen

ive always been doing that. but acacia didnt put my email address in the letter they sent... they didnt even list any of my sites. kinda seemed like they just hoped i was streaming videos, which i am not...

I've heard this from others.. interesting isn't it? Sending demand letters to people that don't fit the criteria?

BRISK · 10-22-2003, 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SetTheWorldonFire
what an invasion of privacy

Yup

junction · 10-22-2003, 04:26 PM

Thanks to Squirtit to pointing me to this post. Here is what happened to me today.

I got a "Final Notice" to sign with them today. I asked them, "I run Sex Toy sites with NO VIDEO STREAMING, or Sound!"

Their reply was that the sites in question are porn sites, not a sex toy site.

After a little research, they said they must have gotten my name "Mixed up" with someone else.

WTF? How did they get my business address and name 'Mixed Up" with a porn site owner?

FUCK YOU ACACIA!

jimmyf · 10-22-2003, 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SetTheWorldonFire
what an invasion of privacy

I'll tell you an invasion of privacy all the calls I was getting because I put in my correct phone number with the domain Reg.

InsaneGreen · 10-22-2003, 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Squirtit

I've heard this from others.. interesting isn't it? Sending demand letters to people that don't fit the criteria?

yup. its retarded. is that all that has signed is big companies? no little guys like myself?

Bladewire · 10-22-2003, 04:28 PM

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Originally posted by Far-L
KimmyKim: That is not correct, tons of people have been getting the letter addressed to company names and are being delivered at po boxes with no signature requirements.

Yes this is a proven fact.

Do you have a list of settlers? Where can we get this list?

Is there a way that these guys can join your suit for $2k-$3k to start? I think now is a good time to bring up alternatives other than hiding.

Far-L .. what deal can you work out for these guys to join your fight?

Bladewire · 10-22-2003, 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by junction
Thanks to Squirtit to pointing me to this post. Here is what happened to me today.

I got a "Final Notice" to sign with them today. I asked them, "I run Sex Toy sites with NO VIDEO STREAMING, or Sound!"

Their reply was that the sites in question are porn sites, not a sex toy site.

After a little research, they said they must have gotten my name "Mixed up" with someone else.

WTF? How did they get my business address and name 'Mixed Up" with a porn site owner?

FUCK YOU ACACIA!

Another example of an affiliates info being released and an Acacia letter being received.

Mr Pheer · 10-22-2003, 04:31 PM

I will instantly drop any affiliate program that I'm using if its proven that they gave out info.

And if I get a packet at my Las Vegas address, it will narrow it down to 6 programs. Just gotta wait and see if I get one now.

Kimmykim · 10-22-2003, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Far-L
KimmyKim: That is not correct, tons of people have been getting the letter addressed to company names and are being delivered at po boxes with no signature requirements.

Then they are no better at lawyering than they are at getting money from people FarL ;)

Bladewire · 10-22-2003, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by InsaneGreen

yup. its retarded. is that all that has signed is big companies? no little guys like myself?

Little guys have signed as well.. only big companies get the Acacia press release stating another has signed. 54 licenses total big and small guys.

InsaneGreen · 10-22-2003, 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Squirtit

Little guys have signed as well.. only big companies get the Acacia press release stating another has signed. 54 licenses total big and small guys.

well shit. im not sure what to do here. i guess im gonna just ignore this letter and see what happens

Bladewire · 10-22-2003, 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrPheer
I will instantly drop any affiliate program that I'm using if its proven that they gave out info.

And if I get a packet at my Las Vegas address, it will narrow it down to 6 programs. Just gotta wait and see if I get one now.

Anyone notice an eary silence from the sponsors here?

NOT ONE SPONSOR HAS COME FORWARD to say they have/haven't given out address. Ken from Hustler is the only one in another thread the absolutely denies that they EVER gave out affiliate info.

WHERE IS THE SPONSORS INPUT HERE?

Their lack of response is astounding.

InsaneGreen · 10-22-2003, 04:35 PM

think it would be wrong to call out a sponsor? i have a feeling that its a certain sponsor.

Kimmykim · 10-22-2003, 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by InsaneGreen
think it would be wrong to call out a sponsor? i have a feeling that its a certain sponsor.

If you are wrong it might be.

Bladewire · 10-22-2003, 04:38 PM

Some interesting points beign brought up here:

http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...hreadid=188753

crockett · 10-22-2003, 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Squirtit

I've heard this from others.. interesting isn't it? Sending demand letters to people that don't fit the criteria?

If this is true , I think the lawyers should be made aware of this because I belive that would be concidered extortion, black mail or what ever you wanna call it...

I'm waiting to get this shit in the mail too.. I don't have any streeming video ..just hosted galleries. I think think the people that are getting these packets that don't fit the criteria should get together and file a class action lawsuit claiming black mail.

Bladewire · 10-22-2003, 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by InsaneGreen

well shit. im not sure what to do here. i guess im gonna just ignore this letter and see what happens

It's your personal choice.

If I received a letter I'd pledge to FTPF (no money taken, just a pledge) I'd donate to IMPA and I'd get in on the lawsuit with HomeGrown - Far-L

That's just me.

foe · 10-22-2003, 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Squirtit
Ok guys.

I GUARANTEE you that affiliate programs lists have been used by Acacia to send out packets.

I will give you an example from here in Australia. Months ago a guy came to my house with an Acacia packet. The packet was not addressed by his name, but his affiliate account name, which was somewhat obscene and he was embarrassed because he knows the people at the post office and didn't want his adult business known, and now it was out.

Yes the packet was not addressed to him, his affiliate name.

More is coming out about this in these threads:

http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...hreadid=188803

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=188753

http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...hreadid=188890

Anyone have an exact affiliate program that has done this to them? Please list it here. If you have suspicion of a couple.. list them here.

It's time this get out in the open. Affiliate programs that have given private info out to Acacia should be boycotted immediately. They should NOT be rewarded for their actions. List the programs in this thread.. even if you have suspicion... and let them publicly come here to confirm, or deny their actions!

Cant the guy tell if he uses unique account names for every sponsor

Bladewire · 10-22-2003, 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by InsaneGreen
think it would be wrong to call out a sponsor? i have a feeling that its a certain sponsor.

Name the sponsor you THINK it might be. They will come here and defend themselves if they didn't . Saying someone MIGHT have is not slanderous and you're not accusing them of doing it for sure. And it's entirely possble that they didn't

Bladewire · 10-22-2003, 04:42 PM

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Originally posted by foe

Cant the guy tell if he uses unique account names for every sponsor

I use unique identifiers.. this guy didn't.

BRISK · 10-22-2003, 04:43 PM

Check my new sig
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ZoiNk · 10-22-2003, 04:43 PM

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Originally posted by BRISK
This is a list of companies that have settled with Acacia:

Hustler websites
Vivid Entertainment
Wicked Pictures

Copy this and add to the list

Who else has settled?

Interactive Gallery, Inc., a wholly owned subsidiaryof New Frontier Media, Inc., L.F.P., Inc. (owner of the Hustler websites), Vivid Entertainment, LLC., and SBO Pictures, Inc. d/b/a Wicked Pictures.

Also Go Entertainment Group (Scorescash) Sept 22nd they settled

For more, look through Edgar's Archives at:
http://www.sec.gov/cgi-bin/browse-ed...wner=inclu de

ZoiNk

BRISK · 10-22-2003, 04:46 PM

This is a list of companies that have settled with Acacia:

Hustler websites
Vivid Entertainment
Wicked Pictures
Scorescash

Copy this and add to the list

Who else has settled?

Bladewire · 10-22-2003, 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by crockett

If this is true , I think the lawyers should be made aware of this because I belive that would be concidered extortion, black mail or what ever you wanna call it...

I'm waiting to get this shit in the mail too.. I don't have any streeming video ..just hosted galleries. I think think the people that are getting these packets that don't fit the criteria should get together and file a class action lawsuit claiming black mail.

You might have something there... demand letters for non-offending companies is not appropriate

SleazyDream · 10-22-2003, 04:48 PM

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Originally posted by Stud Money

I would check with your lawyer on that last statement if i were you

Could end you up in a whole world of hurt if we wanted (or needed) to persue it

another idiot who wants to goto a judge and say "some guy was saying bad things about me on a chat board named GoFuckYourself"

triumph · 10-22-2003, 04:48 PM

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Originally posted by BradShaw
A few people who have signed early, would love to put the smaller guys out of business, that's no secret.

What is surprising of these claims is that these are companies who have recently made a deal with Acacia. If true, boycott is in order. Sell outs.

Brad I for once agree with you 100% on this

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10-22-2003, 04:18 PM	#62
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	couple of things here. First off, why would Acacia be sending legal documents to an account name instead of the persons name? Obviously if they have the address, they know who the pay to is on the check. No attorney would send docs to someone calling them by anything other than their correct and legal name. Second, withdrawing from programs that you've already signed up to isn't going to make any difference, since they have your information on file.

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junction Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Midwest Posts: 2,411	Thanks to Squirtit to pointing me to this post. Here is what happened to me today. I got a "Final Notice" to sign with them today. I asked them, "I run Sex Toy sites with NO VIDEO STREAMING, or Sound!" Their reply was that the sites in question are porn sites, not a sex toy site. After a little research, they said they must have gotten my name "Mixed up" with someone else. WTF? How did they get my business address and name 'Mixed Up" with a porn site owner? FUCK YOU ACACIA!

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10-22-2003, 04:46 PM	#97
BRISK Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,240	This is a list of companies that have settled with Acacia: Hustler websites Vivid Entertainment Wicked Pictures Scorescash Copy this and add to the list Who else has settled? __________________ I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do, I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.