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12clicks 10-17-2003 12:00 PM

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Originally posted by LadyMischief


And those Catholics molesting kids in the name of god,

sure honey, it was in the name of god.
you should stop before you remove all doubt.

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Originally posted by LadyMischief
how about those christians burning people alive because they blinked wrong...
where are they again? you want to post a link?
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Originally posted by LadyMischief
or how about those athiests that are shallow enough to let people fulfill things in the name of religion, in THEIR name! :)
Please honey, if you call me shallow once more someone might think its true. I beg you, stop.
You see, I have no problem at all having a religious man fulfill things I want done. It's a shame your limited mind doesn't allow you to not be prejudiced towards religion.
Religion in the 20th century is quite harmless unless you're a muslim. Period.
Its truly sad that when faced with thousands upon thousands of murders committed by muslim scum, YOU can only see the bad side of christianity.
it speaks volumes.

seven 10-17-2003 12:53 PM

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Originally posted by 12clicks
Its truly sad that when faced with thousands upon thousands of murders committed by muslim scum, YOU can only see the bad side of christianity.
You forgot the Jew scum and ahem.. forgot Hitler too :winkwink:

directfiesta 10-17-2003 12:59 PM

Most ( in not all) religions are shit :

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Violence erupts at disputed religious site

Associated Press
Friday October 17, 2003

Police today fired tear gas and rubber bullets at Hindu militants attempting to hold a banned gathering in Ayodhya, the Indian city at the heart of a decade of religious violence in the country.
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"Now is the time for all Hindus to stand up together," he said. "Every Hindu should make a bomb in his home."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/india/stor...065110,00.html

Micah - Drizunk 10-17-2003 01:01 PM

there are times Im glad to be an atheist.


and those times are every minute of every day.
:thumbsup

directfiesta 10-17-2003 01:05 PM

sicker than I thought....

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"We in the army of God, in the house of God, kingdom of God have been raised for such a time as this," Gen Boykin told an audience last year, according to an investigation in the Los Angeles Times.

Lieutenant General William Boykin

:helpme
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He also said the George W Bush's presidency was ordained by God.

Adorno 10-17-2003 01:08 PM

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Originally posted by 12clicks


My christian general is protecting my way of life.

That guy would string you up by your nuts for your ties to pornography. YOU are his enemy, lover of Satans pornographic filth. Send him a free membership to Total Catfights.

Adorno 10-17-2003 01:52 PM

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Originally posted by Furious_Female


Are you saying Saddam and bin Laden are not evil? :eek7


http://www.sensorsmag.com/isensors/dec01/6/headache.jpg

FATPad 10-17-2003 01:54 PM

I wish all these religious fuckfaces would go kill themselves.

LadyMischief 10-17-2003 02:16 PM

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Originally posted by 12clicks

Please honey, if you call me shallow once more someone might think its true. I beg you, stop.
You see, I have no problem at all having a religious man fulfill things I want done. It's a shame your limited mind doesn't allow you to not be prejudiced towards religion.
Religion in the 20th century is quite harmless unless you're a muslim. Period.
Its truly sad that when faced with thousands upon thousands of murders committed by muslim scum, YOU can only see the bad side of christianity.
it speaks volumes.

I don't think Muslim's are perfect, but I also believe that Christians certainly have no place to point fingers and claim wrongdoings at them. Both religions are based in the same roots, both religions have had many atrocities committed in their names. Have a war, fine, but leave religion out of it. Myself, I'm Wiccan and there's a damn good reason for that, but there's nothing more I hate than religious hypocracy.

LadyMischief 10-17-2003 02:18 PM

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Originally posted by Adorno


That guy would string you up by your nuts for your ties to pornography. YOU are his enemy, lover of Satans pornographic filth. Send him a free membership to Total Catfights.

I love you.

BVF 10-17-2003 02:43 PM

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Originally posted by Furious_Female


Are you saying Saddam and bin Laden are not evil? :eek7


I wonder what King George thought of George Washington back during the Revolutionary War? I'll bet he thought the ole apple tree chopper was the root of all evil!

Evil is in the eye of the beholder and it also depends on what side of the "cause" you are on..

Webby 10-17-2003 03:32 PM

directfiesta:

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He also said the George W Bush's presidency was ordained by God.

I always thought the "pledge" was placing your hand on your chest and muttering some "Heil" statement with God stuffed in to make it righteous and "good".

BUT... Maybe I got that all wrong and the doctrine has changed course and is now, bow to the new Pope - Praise be to Pope George for all his goodness and protecting us from all the demons in this world.

Webby 10-17-2003 03:47 PM

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Originally posted by Furious_Female

Are you saying Saddam and bin Laden are not evil? :eek7
Evil??? Who knows... I don't know either of them well enough to say if they are "evil".

From the track record of Saddam, (including his sons who were brought up to witness violent acts), it is possible he is "evil".

bin Laden? Again, I don't know him. He has his reasons, whether valid or not. I doubt I will have the opportunity to ever chat with him to get any clue as to whether he is "evil" or not.

So, what's your point? Since you are also unlikely to meet these people, how can you say they are evil or not??

Tho I can name some evil people on this planet - they are actually very rare. I have only ever met two in my life and you know very well when you do meet them, - the room fills with an evil stench.

Somehow, I think you do not know what you are talking about - certainly no disrespect tho!

theking 10-17-2003 04:09 PM

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Originally posted by Webby


Evil??? Who knows... I don't know either of them well enough to say if they are "evil".

From the track record of Saddam, (including his sons who were brought up to witness violent acts), it is possible he is "evil".

bin Laden? Again, I don't know him. He has his reasons, whether valid or not. I doubt I will have the opportunity to ever chat with him to get any clue as to whether he is "evil" or not.

So, what's your point? Since you are also unlikely to meet these people, how can you say they are evil or not??

Tho I can name some evil people on this planet - they are actually very rare. I have only ever met two in my life and you know very well when you do meet them, - the room fills with an evil stench.

Somehow, I think you do not know what you are talking about - certainly no disrespect tho!

I cannot recall if you have ever specifically called President Bush "evil" and I am busy so I do not have the time to do a search. You have called him many things...and have called for his assassination...but based upon your criteria of having never met with, or chatted with Bin Laden, you cannot say if he is "evil"...so assuming that you are consistent and apply the same criteria to the President then can I safely say that your position is...the President is not "evil"...as I doubt that you have ever met or chatted with him? If the President is not "evil" and the opposite of "evil" is good...then can I safely say that your position is...the President is good? If the President is not "evil" then why have you called multiple times for the assassination of this "good" man?

I guess I must have met many people that are "evil" for I have met many people that have a "stench" about them...but I always though it was due to inadequate use of soap and water.

FATPad 10-17-2003 04:13 PM

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Originally posted by Furious_Female


We're talking about comments made to a Christian audience in CHURCH. Ok maybe he shouldn't have been in his uniform while he said it, I will give you that. But it is allowed in certain circumstances like it says above and we do not know the exact circumstances. He was preaching to the choir. Not like he held a newsconference and said this.

Where did this even take place? Was this in Iraq, maybe he suffers from heat stroke. Who knows. Why make such a mountain out of a molehill. If the President said something like this, it would be scary and wrong, but we are talking about one general, who happens to be of Christian faith, talking to others that share his faith.

No.

It's one American Army General speaking as an American Army General, not as friends talking about their beliefs.

PerfectionGirls 10-17-2003 04:14 PM

Christian Scare Me!

Webby 10-17-2003 04:27 PM

theKing:

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I cannot recall if you have ever... Blah
No King... I may well have said the Village Idiot was evil at some time, but no, I doubt he is in the same category as "evil" in the real sense :Graucho

Being a total incompetent asshole, a liar and a "greed merchant" who has screwed up so much for the US people and others, does not make him "evil". The world has plenty of Bush's around - they are little different from common crooks - not exactly "evil".

And no, being not evil does not make you good! :1orglaugh

As for soap and water... well, it is clear you ain't got a clue either about "evil" since you would know exactly what I mean't.

BTW.. Just an an aside, - this kid, I never met, but two folks I know met him, (or "observed" him) while he was "detained". This was a young man of only 11 years. I won't say, but he did some really bad shit, nevermind for a child aged 11. This was a young man who had clearly, in his mind, blocked off all "remorse" and "guilt" - totally expressionless - like the shutters were down and no human presence exisited within him. Nobody knows why he is like that - the expression used was that he was "just evil" - hell knows. Seems he may have been born like this or maybe "something" happened to make him like this. Also... the people "interviewing" him were professionals and even they mentioned similar to "the stench of evil". You know it when you meet it - it takes a lot to be "evil".

Why 10-17-2003 04:30 PM

im gonna have to go with, i agree, im ashamed, that such a fuckwit could rise so high in our army, i bet there are many others. it scares me.

theking 10-17-2003 04:30 PM

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Originally posted by Webby

bin Laden? Again, I don't know him. He has his reasons, whether valid or not.

President Bush? You don't know him. He has his reasons, whether vaild or not.

Webby 10-17-2003 04:34 PM

theKing:

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President Bush? You don't know him. He has his reasons, whether vaild or not.
Na.. totally invalid statement. I know, and the world knows, a lot more about your defendant Bush, than is known about bin Laden.

Bush is transparent, almost on a daily basis, - maybe not accountable, but certainly transparent! :winkwink:

Fletch XXX 10-17-2003 04:35 PM

100 Christians thrown to the lions.

basschick 10-17-2003 04:40 PM

once, in a motivated period, i read the king james version of the bible cover to cover. it seemed very clear - no killing. the end. no excuses.

so anyone who says he's fighting for christianity is wrong - 'cause according to christ, god and the rest of the bible, killing is never the christian thing to do.

foe 10-17-2003 04:42 PM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX
These ignorant christian fucks are ruining our country.

period.

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationwo...news-headlines


'Washington - A three-star general active in the search for Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein has told religious audiences that the war on terrorism is a battle between a "Christian army" and Satan, and that Muslims worship an "idol" and not a "real God.

In June, Boykin said, "The battle that we're in is a spiritual battle. Satan wants to destroy this nation, he wants to destroy us as a nation, and he wants to destroy us as a Christian army.'

And <i>THESE</i> are the people defending me?



I dont agree with what he said, but our country has something called freedom of speech :thumbsup

theking 10-17-2003 04:46 PM

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Originally posted by basschick
once, in a motivated period, i read the king james version of the bible cover to cover. it seemed very clear - no killing. the end. no excuses.

so anyone who says he's fighting for christianity is wrong - 'cause according to christ, god and the rest of the bible, killing is never the christian thing to do.

You did not do a very good job of comprehending what you read if that is your conclusion about "god" and the "rest of the bible".

Adorno 10-17-2003 04:46 PM

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Originally posted by basschick
once, in a motivated period, i read the king james version of the bible cover to cover. it seemed very clear - no killing. the end. no excuses.



Errr you must have conveniently skipped Leviticus, amongst more than a few others.

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so anyone who says he's fighting for christianity is wrong - 'cause according to christ, god and the rest of the bible, killing is never the christian thing to do.
What the fuck bible were you reading? Wait, are you confusing the New Testament for the "entire" Bible?

basschick 10-17-2003 04:49 PM

no, only the new testament is christian. while the old testament does have a lot of war, it was written long before christianity existed. only the new testament was written for christians by christians, as it were.

theking 10-17-2003 04:49 PM

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Originally posted by foe




I dont agree with what he said, but our country has something called freedom of speech :thumbsup

Well...in fact active duty military personell do not have "freedom" of speech.

Webby 10-17-2003 04:51 PM

theKing:

And.. despite what you may think, and as a comment on previous thread, I am pleased the UN passed a resolution in support of the US.

It basically means the clock is stopped and started afresh and the US is not in isolation at the UN.

I doubt this will result in any further commitment within Iraq, (other than what has already been agreed to), since nations do not wish to place their forces under a US command - kinda natural and not unexpected!

It does mean Bush can proceed with issuing as many contracts to US companies as he likes for the rebuilding process in Iraq, and frankly good luck to em, cos in the end it is the US taxpayer who will be footing the bill.

The other side of the coin is a picture of a need within the Admin to actually "do something" in Iraq and calm the place on a timetable. This may be feasible or not, but that timetable, apart from a deadline on a constitution, is fairly open-ended. It just needs action now.

The real problem of "peace" in Iraq is,.. well, I doubt that may happen. It is unlikely to even "cool" (but probably escalate), until the US passes over it's military occupation to others. Even then, "peace" is questionable.

The damage is far further reaching than any "war" there...

Fletch XXX 10-17-2003 04:52 PM

http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Qur...sacrifice.html

Dont forget the Master of it all.

Cain.

Adorno 10-17-2003 04:52 PM

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Originally posted by basschick
no, only the new testament is christian. while the old testament does have a lot of war, it was written long before christianity existed. only the new testament was written for christians by christians, as it were.
wrong.

The early "christian" texts that were compiled into what you call the "New Testament" were written by Jews for Jews and were later picked apart and adapted by the growing xtian church at the council of Nicea, nearly 800 years after Jesus had been executed. The Pauline Epistles of the NT were written for "Christians".

Webby 10-17-2003 04:54 PM

theKing:

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Well...in fact active duty military personell do not have "freedom" of speech.
Mmmm.. this another basic human right they don't have?..

theking 10-17-2003 05:02 PM

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Originally posted by Webby
theKing:



Mmmm.. this another basic human right they don't have?..

Basically...yes...among others.

xroach 10-17-2003 05:06 PM

a war was declared on us by religious fundamentalists who believe they will be rewarded in the afterlife for killing us. as a result they don't care about dying as they don't see it as an end. osama has said it doesn't matter how many hundreds of millions of muslims die to destroy they west as they will be rewarded as martyrs in the afterlife. to muslims in arabic countries this is also a holy war


we'll need people just as crazy as that to survive this

theking 10-17-2003 05:06 PM

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Originally posted by Webby
theKing:

And.. despite what you may think, and as a comment on previous thread, I am pleased the UN passed a resolution in support of the US.

It basically means the clock is stopped and started afresh and the US is not in isolation at the UN.

I doubt this will result in any further commitment within Iraq, (other than what has already been agreed to), since nations do not wish to place their forces under a US command - kinda natural and not unexpected!

It does mean Bush can proceed with issuing as many contracts to US companies as he likes for the rebuilding process in Iraq, and frankly good luck to em, cos in the end it is the US taxpayer who will be footing the bill.

The other side of the coin is a picture of a need within the Admin to actually "do something" in Iraq and calm the place on a timetable. This may be feasible or not, but that timetable, apart from a deadline on a constitution, is fairly open-ended. It just needs action now.

The real problem of "peace" in Iraq is,.. well, I doubt that may happen. It is unlikely to even "cool" (but probably escalate), until the US passes over it's military occupation to others. Even then, "peace" is questionable.

The damage is far further reaching than any "war" there...

Hmm...un-fucking believable...a resonable thought out post from Webby...applause...applause. :winkwink:

Webby 10-17-2003 05:12 PM

theKing:

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Hmm...un-fucking believable...a resonable thought out post from Webby...applause...applause. ]:winkwink:
EH??? Hell.. I must have had a weak moment there!! *lol*

Wanna get back to the "real reasons" and problems why this all started in the first place??? They were also truths and facts, but ya did not seem to like them too much and I'll be back to being some "US hater" and other cliches! :1orglaugh

Na.. I'll give ya a rest for today King!! :winkwink:

seven 10-17-2003 05:17 PM

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Originally posted by theking
Hmm...un-fucking believable...a resonable thought out post from Webby...applause...applause. :winkwink:
theking is saying that? un-fucking believable... applause... applause :winkwink: :1orglaugh

sacX 10-17-2003 05:33 PM

old testament = don't fuck wif God.
new testament = be nice to people

:-)

12clicks 10-17-2003 06:06 PM

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Originally posted by Adorno


That guy would string you up by your nuts for your ties to pornography. YOU are his enemy, lover of Satans pornographic filth. Send him a free membership to Total Catfights.

No, son. You see this is America. Do you really need to be spoon fed the facts?

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Originally posted by LadyMischeif
I love you.

why, same dopey conclusions?
:1orglaugh

12clicks 10-17-2003 06:11 PM

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Originally posted by LadyMischief


I don't think Muslim's are perfect, but I also believe that Christians certainly have no place to point fingers and claim wrongdoings at them.

there in lies your problem. you equate the murder of thousands and thousands of innocents in our lifetime by muslims to whatever goofy problem you have with christianity.
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Originally posted by LadyMischief
Both religions are based in the same roots, both religions have had many atrocities committed in their names.
But one has evolved and grown while the other just continues to murder innocent people.
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Originally posted by LadyMischief
Have a war, fine, but leave religion out of it.
kinda tough to do when the bad guys are muslims.

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Originally posted by LadyMischief

Myself, I'm Wiccan and there's a damn good reason for that,

so that you won't be taken seriously by anyone?
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Originally posted by LadyMischief
but there's nothing more I hate than religious hypocracy.
You hate it so much you imagine it where its not.:thumbsup

Webby 10-17-2003 06:12 PM

mmm.. the wit is back :sleep


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