True, however that's the reality of the situation...

Religious freedom is one thing...it is based on the freedom of a group of people to peacefully gather and share beliefs...a distinct difference from taking those beliefs and justifying the death of people through them. Saddam and Osama were/are (whatever you want) evil people, not because they followed Satan, because they disrespected fellow humans, period. I want generals telling me that they are liberating Iraqis, period...and if that was the case, there would be no need for excuses........

But....Saddam and Osama did need to go...and for that, unfortunately, I must thank the Bush administration. Just do it for the right reasons, please.

Funny if disturbing thread. Whatever drugs furious_female takes I want some. Stuff that good should be spread around.

Whoever mentioned buddism :thumbsup It's the only religion with half a chance of getting rid of the atheist in me. They have some good beliefs :)

I agree with you... but, there's a difference between doing things out of goodness and doing things out of hatred.

Christian Children's Fund for example. Feeding hungry children all over the world. Most certainly religion based, but does that make them as bad as someone flying planes into a building, for doing positive things in the name of God? I think it's fine that anyone uses religion as an excuse to do positive things for humanity.

:( Goddamn! What I see... I'm not surprised now, why americans known for their foolishness.....

Don't forget nonreligious, they're on our side too!

Nonreligious 2,573,000 701,175,000 94,330,000 15,551,000 25,050,000 2,870,000 841,549,000 14.7 226

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anything against muslims and giving me all their oil i would be happy with.

You're forgetting one thing. Osama isn't gone. And with the death of Osama, if it happens, Al Queda won't be gone either. There is a LOT of work left to do.

Here's a little read for those that aren't aware of who is running our country: http://www.freedomdomain.com/secrets...s/skull01.html

odd that you don't find these same flaws in the muslim scum we're fighting.
nah, on second thought, its typical of you.:1orglaugh

And that makes all the BAD things done in the name of God go away? How about the dark ages? The cruisades? The witch burnings.. How about all the innocent people that died "in God's name"? A God of love wouldn't allow or be pleased with ANY killing in his name.

And there are a lot of NON-religious funds and funds of different religions doing the same thing for starving children. Your point?

Fact is, they tack on that little christian part to help get people to donate, and in your case it certainly seems that it works. A sucker is born every minute they say.

Have you ever seen a child with no concept of 'god?'

its a beautiful thing, and I hope to raise more than one, one day.

He's not saying he wants to do something good, he's saying that his god is better than their god therefore their religion is a tool of satan and needs to be eliminated. The muslim world has been causing problems lately, but after that's done do you think he'll be hunky dory living next door to a peaceful muslim?

If you're a christian, you better take a little better look at that Muslim scum. They share a lot of the same beliefs you do. And if you are Christian, hating other people because of their religious beliefs would make you a hypocrite, wouldn't it?

Some people feel the need to justify the things they do by pointing to the common beliefs of a group of people...they enjoy the support...they need the support...it gives them confidence...it gives them recognition...so on. However, the things that are done cannot be excused because there is support behind them. Nazi Germany BELIEVED in what they were doing...... If people who are full of compassion feel better having the support of a religious organization then join. But if people justify killing through those same organizations, it is pure hypocrisy and I don't see how anyone can see it differently. The Bible says "love your neighbour as yourself". If liberating Iraqis is what you feel is the right thing to do and war is the only means available, so be it. But don't give yourself too much credit and try to fight Satan. If Satan has a beef, let's let God deal with that.

You dumbass right wingers are always accusing us of taking the side of the muslims. It's not a black and white world, we don't believe that the enemy of our enemy is our friend. Only a neanderthal would think like that.

I personally think all religion is a plague that needs to be eliminated from the earth before there will ever be peace. Muslims and christians alike. Muslims bomb jewish restaurants, christians bomb abortion clinics and beat up gays. Same damn thing.

My point is that, I see nothing wrong with people doing GOOD and positive things for humanity in the name of God or WHATEVER their reasons might be, as long as it is in fact a positive thing. Whetherthey do it for God or for Jesus or in the name of moldy tree bark, if it is a positive thing for humanity, who cares???

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Wasn't the taliban doing a good thing for humanity when they got rid of all that "commie scum"? In the end they were still religious fundamentalists who would kill us if they had the chance. Christians may be good for some things but give them enough power and our women will be covered head to toe like afghanis.

Killing innocents in the name of god is ok though, right? How many people do you think died in Iraq who were innocent? Yes, Osama and his crones attacked us, and killed the innocent, you honestly think that it justifies turning it into a holy war? That's what THEY are doing. As far as THEY are concerened, THEY are in the right. Who is to say which god is better? How do you know your god is the real god and theirs isn't?

How could you claim to be christian, or anyone else for that matter and not be just as guilty of the sins done in Christianity's name? Silence in these situations is the same thing as agreement. Two wrongs most DEFINITELY do NOT make a right.

This was supposed to be a war against terrorism.. Not a war against Muslims and their god.

We live in a country where we have Freedom of Speach.

Just like all you morons posting outlandish shit on GFY, the General made his statements as a Privaet citizen, in a church. He has the right to do this,and say what he likes. You may not like it, and that is your right.

If the General had made the statement as part of his posistion in the military, at a press briefing, or otehr official capacity - then it would be a problem.

People living in this country should be happy we have bad asses like this protecting out nation. This guy may be a little kooky, but he is a bad-ass solider. Led Delta for years, and has been on many covert missions.

I may not agree with what he said, I do not think God picked anyone, but I would shake his hand for his service to our Nation so I can sit at home and comfortably sling porn, and debate bafoons on GFY!

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Believe it or not MAJORITY of military and the US just may have a bit more "education" than that otherwise, I'd actually run into morons like those everyday which i don't.. God :helpme ! Muslims do not worship Idols btw.. oooh the ignorance!

He is going to be reprimanded...and more than likely we will see his "resignation" soon.

Which is ashame, we are going to lose a bad-ass, get-the-job-done kind of guy.

If we run people like this out of the military, we will end up like france!

Didn't know this war had any thing do do with religion. What bullshit! What happent to seperation of church and state! Fuck Church - it has nothing to do to belong in the government!

jDoG

It depends. If there's a hidden agenda beneath good deeds, probably not. But if someone wants to find the cure for cancer because God told them to and a Christian charity donates to them, who cares?? This war against terrorism is NOT about religion, at least from the US perspective. The middle east is a pit of religious wars for years and years and years now. If one general wants to share his beliefs with others that share the same, who cares. It doesn't make him right or a representative of the entire US.

Who will decide whether something is good for humanity or not?

Hmmm.. This sounds like pre-election comments.

The majority always rules. But anything that can help humanity as a whole and doesn't discriminate against any race, religion or sex, is a good thing for humanity.

I'm an atheist.
what was your point again?

sure kid, muslims killing people all over the world in the name of religion is the same as 1 or 2 nutcases bombing abortion clinics and beating up gays.
you believing this explains a lot.:thumbsup

you're a thoughtlless, guttless, c_u_n_t for posting this and so is your buddy cluck

It sounds more like he wanted relieved of command and they refused... He is Government Issue just like all soldiers and knows he is to think what he is told. You have NO 'private life' while in the service. That kind of comment has brought more than one man down and he knew it.

So he has his years in, pension is set, they don't want him back here yet and he WANTS out? Make a dumb comment and voila`. He's home before Christmas.:winkwink:

you're right, it's a war against the "Evil Doers"


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we're just being 0wned by the christian version of the taliban...

Im sure christians used a similar line when it was time to rid the world of the 'PAGAN SCUM.'

these kid fuckers never get enough death, THAT is the ONLY truth about religion.

I'm not surprised... So how is your Christian general speaking for you? Aside from expressing the same blind and incredibly shallow prejudices? I thought more of your intelligence level, Ron, than to think you could be so easily blinded by stereotypes.

And those Catholics molesting kids in the name of god, how about those christians burning people alive because they blinked wrong... or how about those athiests that are shallow enough to let people fulfill things in the name of religion, in THEIR name! :)

Unfortunately, that's becoming more true instead of less.. Next you know the pope is going to start making pronouncements about it! :)

Just because you're not bright enough to understand what's going on you believe there are blind, shallow prejudices. thats typical.
My christian general is protecting my way of life.