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Old 10-13-2003, 03:10 AM   #51
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Neriah,

It is no disrespect to your current designer, but I do agree you should start again. Take a look at the portfolios and prices of the designers below.
The added expense is worth it in better conversion rates.


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www.aaaadultdesign.com
www.webinc.com
www.bluedesignstudio.com
www.dickmansdesign.com
www.WyldeSites.com


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Old 10-13-2003, 03:16 AM   #52
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sorry to be the bringer of bad news, but the composition of that site is horrible. There are so many things wrong with it, I don't even know where to begin.... but let's try

1. It doesn't entice me to do anything except close the window. Without that, nothing else listed below matters, because no one will get that far.

2. Would definately check into the legality of using Playboy's gear. And if you do have the okay, I'm sure it probably doesn't include the mangled display of their emblem.

3. the code is sloppy and your exits don't work.

4. the site warning down at the bottom (that is copied directly from adult.com sites btw... ) is missing the 18 U.S.C. 2257 statement

5. the graphic work... the cutouts, the comp, the text work, the navigation, all of it... is just completely lacking any semblance of what would be considered "good" work.

6. the images in the thumbs on the tour pages are positively atrocious.


My recommendation is, start completely over.


AMP we haven't ever agreed on much but i'm going to agree with you on this one bro

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Old 10-13-2003, 03:19 AM   #53
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sorry to be the bringer of bad news, but the composition of that site is horrible. There are so many things wrong with it, I don't even know where to begin.... but let's try

1. It doesn't entice me to do anything except close the window. Without that, nothing else listed below matters, because no one will get that far.

2. Would definately check into the legality of using Playboy's gear. And if you do have the okay, I'm sure it probably doesn't include the mangled display of their emblem.

3. the code is sloppy and your exits don't work.

4. the site warning down at the bottom (that is copied directly from adult.com sites btw... ) is missing the 18 U.S.C. 2257 statement

5. the graphic work... the cutouts, the comp, the text work, the navigation, all of it... is just completely lacking any semblance of what would be considered "good" work.

6. the images in the thumbs on the tour pages are positively atrocious.


My recommendation is, start completely over.


I agree.

Neriah this is good advice, while AMP is not the best designer out there, he is very good and getting better and he definitely knows his stuff. I am really impressed he would take the time to give you some pointers !
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Old 10-13-2003, 03:22 AM   #54
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Thanks Mike!

Neriah: We'd be happy to rebuild your tour, check out our portfolio: http://www.bluedesignstudios.com and send me an email if you like what you see
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Old 10-13-2003, 03:27 AM   #55
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Okay, I appreciate your candor!
This is my 4th tour this year...struggling with it....I will probably be in touch with some of you very soon.
Like I said, I do appreciate your honest advice. That is the only way to get a better product out there and make us all more $$!!
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Old 10-13-2003, 07:45 AM   #56
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you go girl...you're HOT! Would be nice to see a little more than just free head shots...people need to be enticed to pay.
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Old 10-13-2003, 09:56 AM   #57
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I agree.

Neriah this is good advice, while AMP is not the best designer out there...


I was thinking the same thing. Who the fuck does he think he is offering advice? BWAHAHAHAHAHAAAA. Maybe if he pulled his head out of his ass long enough, he might be able to learn a few things about design.
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Looks nice just needs better design and better flow.
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I have to agree with AMP on this one...Too much to fix start over with one of the recommended design firms
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Old 10-13-2003, 03:56 PM   #60
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Gday all

I think some of you are being waaaaay to critical of this tour IMO.

I have over 450 front ends, and some of the most bullshit damn awful ones convert like the bejesus

And with sites we spent days in developing, conversion suck like a 2 bit whore

The question is "how can you get more traffic across your site, and worry less about the design aspects".

Too many people these days get hung up on design, and never get their product out there

One of the biggest names in the industry tought me that lesson, when I spent tens of thousands of $$$ and months of work designing Adults.com. At the end of the day, all that mattered was traffic, and not the design.

Another good lesson is Sex.com

Sex.com is a mighty site on a mighty URL designed to do mighty things. But people keep telling me it made more money when it was a banner farm under Cohens skullduggery

Concentrate on what you do best. Get webmasters to see you have the right product, and get them to give you their traffic. Turn on your charms babe ;-)

An old lesson from an old dog downunder

PS - Hank old mate, I cant wait to have a Jack Daniels or 15 with ya in Vancouver next week
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Gday all

I think some of you are being waaaaay to critical of this tour IMO.

I have over 450 front ends, and some of the most bullshit damn awful ones convert like the bejesus

And with sites we spent days in developing, conversion suck like a 2 bit whore

The question is "how can you get more traffic across your site, and worry less about the design aspects".

Too many people these days get hung up on design, and never get their product out there

One of the biggest names in the industry tought me that lesson, when I spent tens of thousands of $$$ and months of work designing Adults.com. At the end of the day, all that mattered was traffic, and not the design.

Another good lesson is Sex.com

Sex.com is a mighty site on a mighty URL designed to do mighty things. But people keep telling me it made more money when it was a banner farm under Cohens skullduggery

Concentrate on what you do best. Get webmasters to see you have the right product, and get them to give you their traffic. Turn on your charms babe ;-)

An old lesson from an old dog downunder

PS - Hank old mate, I cant wait to have a Jack Daniels or 15 with ya in Vancouver next week
throwing more traffic at something that's broken is not a solution. It's a bandaid. Neither does "turning on the charm" and seducing webmasters to push it take the place of good form.
She asked for a critique and she got it. "Bullshit awful" tours (as you put it) have their place, but a Playmate's site is not it. Certain things need to be presented in certain ways. You wouldn't advertise the Sunday Monster Truck Rally in the style of a feminine hygiene product spot and then argue that it just needs more viewers to be successful would you? Of course not.

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Old 10-13-2003, 04:09 PM   #62
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your image is cut out isnt very nice, it could use some touching up
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Old 10-13-2003, 04:10 PM   #63
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Okay, I appreciate your candor!
This is my 4th tour this year...struggling with it....I will probably be in touch with some of you very soon.
Like I said, I do appreciate your honest advice. That is the only way to get a better product out there and make us all more $$!!
icq me if u need any help with the design
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Old 10-13-2003, 04:13 PM   #64
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On page two, every thumb is linked to your join page. I have not yet decided to join but am still looking to see what all I will get inside (as a surfer). Link the thumbs to a larger pic and tell me what I'm going to find of that girl after joining.


Nice design, work more on the salesmanship.
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i don't really recommend designers anymore... there are alot of really good ones, and I've chosen not to favor any of them in particular over another. Someone always ends up getting pissed off at me.
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Old 10-13-2003, 05:09 PM   #67
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throwing more traffic at something that's broken is not a solution. It's a bandaid. Neither does "turning on the charm" and seducing webmasters to push it take the place of good form.
She asked for a critique and she got it. "Bullshit awful" tours (as you put it) have their place, but a Playmate's site is not it. Certain things need to be presented in certain ways. You wouldn't advertise the Sunday Monster Truck Rally in the style of a feminine hygiene product spot and then argue that it just needs more viewers to be successful would you? Of course not.

AMp
Amp, I have to agree with you...I only want to really promote this once it is done right. I want to feel proud of my product.
I don't want to blow my chance with the webmaster's traffic. This new tour is actually converting way better than the last, but it's still not enough! What do you think about a contest here? Some cash, sweet prizes, etc. I know you won't refer me to anyone, but what do you think about that idea?
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1. What a babe

2. Who did those cutouts? Reminds me of a Brad Shaw site!
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2. Who did those cutouts? Reminds me of a Brad Shaw site!

Cheap shot. Our sites are all designed by the leading designers in the business. I guess there are still people who like porn star content, look at vivid.
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I need a pass to the members area, then I can give you further advice..
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It's not really her. It's SLY from GFY -- same ICQ#

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Sorry babe...you are wrong! Sly's ICQ # is 190099545
mine is # 190667858

But nice try sweetie!
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I'm sorry - but I have a hard time believing you're really Neriah Davis.

I think that if you are indeed Neriah you should post a pic of yourself proving such - holding a piece of paper with a marker that says 'GFY' on it or 'fuck you sleazydream'

I'm not talking nude or anything nauthty, just something to prove you are indeed who you say you are.

otherwise you're just some jackassed lame assed webmaster with a licence to promote Neriah's pics fucking with everyone here on GFY.

untill you post proof, as far as I'm concerned you're a FAKER.
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I could tell you what to do to enhance your tour page, but all that sticks out in my narcotic coated memory is your sexi bodi half naked and being adorable. sorry to shower you with more compliments, but you should thank god you can live off your beauty... If I met you in real life I'd be speachless and probably have a panic attack, nice work
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I'm sorry - but I have a hard time believing you're really Neriah Davis.

I think that if you are indeed Neriah you should post a pic of yourself proving such - holding a piece of paper with a marker that says 'GFY' on it or 'fuck you sleazydream'

I'm not talking nude or anything nauthty, just something to prove you are indeed who you say you are.

otherwise you're just some jackassed lame assed webmaster with a licence to promote Neriah's pics fucking with everyone here on GFY.

untill you post proof, as far as I'm concerned you're a FAKER.
Okay Mr. Smarty Pants....I mean Sleazy Dream!

p.s. it's all love! LOL

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Okay Mr. Smarty Pants....I mean Sleazy Dream!

p.s. it's all love! LOL
I'm a believer.

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I think some of you are being waaaaay to critical of this tour IMO.

I have over 450 front ends, and some of the most bullshit damn awful ones convert like the bejesus

And with sites we spent days in developing, conversion suck like a 2 bit whore

The question is "how can you get more traffic across your site, and worry less about the design aspects".

Too many people these days get hung up on design, and never get their product out there

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Another good lesson is Sex.com

Sex.com is a mighty site on a mighty URL designed to do mighty things. But people keep telling me it made more money when it was a banner farm under Cohens skullduggery

Concentrate on what you do best. Get webmasters to see you have the right product, and get them to give you their traffic. Turn on your charms babe ;-)

An old lesson from an old dog downunder

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EXACTLY! EXACTLY! EXACTLY!

Designs are just that designs. Nothing more.

If there is one thing I've learned in all my 20 years in the adult biz is the guys are buying the "turn on" connection they feel with the girl(s) whose images they see.

It doesn't matter what the setting is or any other design bs. If they fall in love with that girl the credit card is coming out.

Neriah, its all about you. They are buying YOU! The look in your eyes, the sensuality and sexuality radiating from your body and soul is what is closing the sale, nothing else.

They are buying because they want to see more pics of you. They could care less what the fucking graphics and buttons and surrounding color schemes look like on your site.

Place the focus on nailing that 1-on-1 connection with your potential customers. That's what will increase sales.

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Wow!
Some good vibes at GFY! I never dreamed! LOL
Thanks guys, I appreciate the support

I also appreciate the criticism. We never grow if we aren't challenged. I am seriously considering a design contest though. Truth is, I need a revamp and soon! Look for a contest in the VERY near future! I'll be over here brewing up a sweet prize!

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see you next week for 15 JD's

Sleazy, your starting to sound like Brad Shaw

Ms. Davis, listen to advise and FIX THE FUCKIN TOUR!!!

No matter how beautiful you are IT SUCKS
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Neriah - Leave the tour - go for the business. You already said you have had 4 goes at it. The designers of this world will never be happy with any design - Ever!

KRL - Thanks mate - well said

Hank - It will be a pleasure to drink copious amounts of JD with ya mate. And for the record, I think parts of your site sucks, but how can you or anybody else argue with the highest celebrity conversions on the planet? MrSkin.com rocks for all the right reasons - content!
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Old 10-13-2003, 11:28 PM   #89
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sleazy- I'm impressed! way to use reverse pschycology to get her to show another pic
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Old 10-13-2003, 11:34 PM   #90
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Cheap shot. Our sites are all designed by the leading designers in the business. I guess there are still people who like porn star content, look at vivid.
Very defensive!
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Old 10-13-2003, 11:35 PM   #91
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Neriah,

Not sure if you any of these already, but here are some enhanced features "marketing pitches" that will increase signups. Again, what you want to do is power max the connection and impression of 1-on-1 interactivity with the prospective member.

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The Secret Phone Number For My Members Only Home Answering Machine

As a Member, I'll give you my secret members only phone number so you can call me and record your sexy fantasies for me to hear.
And I might surprise you and call or e-mail you back if you get me all turned on too.

(Neriah, you can use a free online service like eFax that has voice mail built in for this feature by the way)


Take Me To Bed With You!

As a Member, you'll get access to lots of my sizzling Neriah playthings to order. Like my ultra hot naughty Neriah pillow case, that has a full head shot of me on one side and when you flip me over a full length body shot of me.

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Old 10-13-2003, 11:54 PM   #92
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This is "THE STUFF" you should be listening to, learning and absorbing
I have emailed him already...I want to pick his brain
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Old 10-14-2003, 12:06 AM   #93
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On page two, every thumb is linked to your join page. I have not yet decided to join but am still looking to see what all I will get inside (as a surfer). Link the thumbs to a larger pic and tell me what I'm going to find of that girl after joining.


Nice design, work more on the salesmanship.

I was also suprised to find no larger pics.
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Old 10-14-2003, 12:12 AM   #94
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FUCK!

Im so single!!!!
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Old 10-14-2003, 12:58 AM   #95
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I was also suprised to find no larger pics.
Yes, how many sample pics should we show....3?
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Old 10-14-2003, 01:14 AM   #96
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Didn't you go out with Roger V from Pornkings.com?
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Old 10-14-2003, 01:22 AM   #97
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I'm a believer.

Thank you
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Old 10-14-2003, 01:31 AM   #98
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what you should do is get someone like adult.com, Pornkings.com, Hawgscash or someone who knows the biz and have them build your site and put it in there program. on top of having your own site. make the most you can.

that way you get instant traffic. what type of program do you have?
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Old 10-14-2003, 02:32 AM   #99
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I was also suprised to find no larger pics.
LIKE THIS?
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what you should do is get someone like adult.com, Pornkings.com, Hawgscash or someone who knows the biz and have them build your site and put it in there program. on top of having your own site. make the most you can.

that way you get instant traffic. what type of program do you have?
Neriah would LOVE to be a part of the adult.com family!!
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