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Kimmykim 10-10-2003 07:32 PM

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Originally posted by smsvid



Sly, alright. So you say Lightningspeed doesnt have any hardcore sites at all. The girls doesnt get used at partys either?


About bangbus, i saw some movie with them.
Is it true that they just run off without paying the girls who have sex in the bus? Or is that just fake?!

You are a surfer right?

OY 10-10-2003 07:33 PM

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Originally posted by smsvid


My point was more too, a 18 old girl who wants to be in porn doesnt understand what the porn industry is about.
And ofcourse she looks young at that age.

The industry takes advantage of this, i dont know who steve is. I dont know lightspeed cash or what the fuck its called. However, if i asked steve or bradshaw or lensman or any other person on this board if they would allow their daughter to do the same thing that Steve´s models does....would they say yes?

Wake up and breath the air, what kind of girls really take theese kind of jobs? The intelligens ones with a good school education?


At age 18 you know as much as a 17 year old one or 16.
Put the age at 21 years old. Atleast they have more between the ears. They may look young, but atleast they are more prepared.


:Hollering But sending 18 year old boys and girls to die in the "war" agains Iraq is ok?

It always amaze me to see the double standard in this industry, not to mention this country...

:thefinger

smsvid 10-10-2003 07:33 PM

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Originally posted by quiet


wrong. they simply don't give a shit about the law. looks like it's worked so far.


Like I said before, there arent to many smart girls in this biz.
Who would be dumb enough not to check for the money....

jezuz.

Kimmykim 10-10-2003 07:34 PM

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Originally posted by smsvid


I fail to see the similarity btw the army and the girls doing porn.
The boys in the army is being lead by professional soldiers whom are working under the laws and orders by the goverment.
Not by some private held company.

Ok, since you have college in USA and we dont here in Sweden its a bit of difference. But anyone here who doesnt have university education isnt educated.
So that means, that ATLEAST they should have college education.

Wow, you dont have GIRLS in your army in Sweden? You mean Sweden has an army even?

You didnt get any university yet did you?

Kimmykim 10-10-2003 07:35 PM

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Originally posted by smsvid



Like I said before, there arent to many smart girls in this biz.

You ever heard that one about the pot and the kettle, pal?

OY 10-10-2003 07:35 PM

Oh, and I forgot one thing:

WHY CANT WE JUST ALL GET ALONG?

:Graucho

smsvid 10-10-2003 07:36 PM

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Originally posted by Oystein



:Hollering But sending 18 year old boys and girls to die in the "war" agains Iraq is ok?

It always amaze me to see the double standard in this industry, not to mention this country...

:thefinger


Did I mention Iraq?
If you ask me, I hope and vote for the goverment to cut down the army with 100%. There is no use to have it. Its the year 2003, soon 2004.

Kimmykim 10-10-2003 07:37 PM

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Originally posted by Oystein
Oh, and I forgot one thing:

WHY CANT WE JUST ALL GET ALONG?

:Graucho

Champagne for everyone ? ;-}}}}

Kimmykim 10-10-2003 07:38 PM

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Originally posted by smsvid



Did I mention Iraq?
If you ask me, I hope and vote for the goverment to cut down the army with 100%. There is no use to have it. Its the year 2003, soon 2004.

Ha! I knew Sweden didn't really have an army. Just another way of trying to pull the wool over our eyes, eh surfer? You think just because we are porn webmasters you are smarter than us?

smsvid 10-10-2003 07:38 PM

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Originally posted by Kimmykim


Wow, you dont have GIRLS in your army in Sweden? You mean Sweden has an army even?

You didnt get any university yet did you?


You know what, good thing you asked.
Its like this. In Sweden, most boys have to do the army for about a year. Some boys have, some dont.

The girls dont have too, but they can IF they want.
I did the army for about a year and I can tell you this.
I wouldnt want a girl to cover my back in a war.

beemk 10-10-2003 07:41 PM

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Originally posted by smsvid



Like I said before, there arent to many smart girls in this biz.
Who would be dumb enough not to check for the money....

jezuz.

are you stupid? everyone knows they drive around and pick random girls off the street. they know how to cover their tracks good too.... thats why they havent been caught yet.

Kimmykim 10-10-2003 07:42 PM

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Originally posted by smsvid
I wouldnt want a girl to cover my back in a war.
With that attitude I can promise you right now, any self respecting chick with a gun standing at your back sure as hell wouldn't be 'covering' it.

smsvid 10-10-2003 07:46 PM

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Originally posted by Kimmykim


Ha! I knew Sweden didn't really have an army. Just another way of trying to pull the wool over our eyes, eh surfer? You think just because we are porn webmasters you are smarter than us?


We have one that is to big.
EU should have a army together, that way we can cut down on the cost.

Just because someone is porn webmaster doesnt mean your stupid. But i can tell you this.

The average webmaster isnt educated when it comes to university studys..

smsvid 10-10-2003 07:47 PM

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Originally posted by beemk


are you stupid? everyone knows they drive around and pick random girls off the street. they know how to cover their tracks good too.... thats why they havent been caught yet.

Ok, to me that sounds pretty stupid.
But its america, i guess its possible if you say so.

smsvid 10-10-2003 07:51 PM

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Originally posted by Kimmykim


With that attitude I can promise you right now, any self respecting chick with a gun standing at your back sure as hell wouldn't be 'covering' it.


Well, i will tell you why I have this "attitude".
The girls in the swedish army who join up because they think its "fun" or "cool" are treated differently.

For example, on a exercise they might have like 30 seconds extra time then the boys. Tell me this, do you think the enemy in a war would give the girls 30 seconds extra time...?

No.

NetRodent 10-10-2003 07:51 PM

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Originally posted by smsvid


I fail to see the similarity btw the army and the girls doing porn.
The boys in the army is being lead by professional soldiers whom are working under the laws and orders by the goverment.
Not by some private held company.

Ok, since you have college in USA and we dont here in Sweden its a bit of difference. But anyone here who doesnt have university education isnt educated.
So that means, that ATLEAST they should have college education.

Please tell me you're trolling. You can't really be this stupid.

natas 10-10-2003 07:54 PM

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Originally posted by smsvid
About bangbus, i saw some movie with them.
Is it true that they just run off without paying the girls who have sex in the bus? Or is that just fake?!

lol jesus :1orglaugh

smsvid 10-10-2003 07:54 PM

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Originally posted by NetRodent


Please tell me you're trolling. You can't really be this stupid.


Enlight me.

smsvid 10-10-2003 07:57 PM

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Originally posted by natas


lol jesus :1orglaugh


I take that as its possible when the average american isnt too experienced with the internet. Ofcourse, the size of the country helps too.

Mike AI 10-10-2003 07:59 PM

I think we may be getting a little off topic!

smsvid 10-10-2003 08:00 PM

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Originally posted by Mike AI
I think we may be getting a little off topic!
True.
Time to sleep, 5 AM.

Jman 10-10-2003 08:02 PM

Yadi ya di fucking ya.

It's like watching politician trying to win an election, by comparing there erection...

HELLO we work in PORN :2 cents:

Jman 10-10-2003 08:03 PM

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Originally posted by Jean-Francois aka JMan
Yadi ya di fucking ya.

It's like watching politician trying to win an election, by comparing there erection...

HELLO we work in PORN :2 cents:

What I like the most about my friend Steve is HE won't play that game.

Jman 10-10-2003 08:04 PM

lmao instead of edit i quote myself ;-)

Kimmykim 10-10-2003 08:07 PM

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Originally posted by smsvid

Just because someone is porn webmaster doesnt mean your stupid. But i can tell you this.

The average webmaster isnt educated when it comes to university studys..

Oh, so you are saying I am uneducated? Don't you think I should get 30 seconds extra time to answer the questions? Maybe if I flash my tits at the guy asking he will give it to me!

Chichio 10-10-2003 08:07 PM

that's some fucked up shit, who said that shit anyway....?

jimmyf 10-10-2003 08:26 PM

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Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
Brad,

What's the real problem you have with Steve?

-DP

I was wondering the same thing.... If I was Steve I dam sure wouldn't loose any sleep over it.

Mike AI 10-10-2003 08:30 PM

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Originally posted by Kimmykim


Oh, so you are saying I am uneducated? Don't you think I should get 30 seconds extra time to answer the questions? Maybe if I flash my tits at the guy asking he will give it to me!

I vote for this!!

:thumbsup

jimmyf 10-10-2003 08:30 PM

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Originally posted by quiet


it's real.

:helpme :1orglaugh

Carrie 10-10-2003 08:37 PM

I have a friend whose mother put herself through law school... by stripping. She started the day she turned 18 and had enough money to pay for her law degree by the time she was less than halfway through her education.

She became quite a successful and respected lawyer fighting for women who had been abused.

But 18 year old girls are just uneducated and get into the business because they don't know what they're doing. Right.

Kimmykim 10-10-2003 08:40 PM

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Originally posted by Mike AI


I vote for this!!

:thumbsup

Hahaha, is that why you were asking me questions in icq??

;-}}}}

Rick Latona 10-10-2003 08:53 PM

What are we talking about anyway? I didn't graduate from high-school so I'm having a hard time keeping up.

SleazyDream 10-10-2003 08:57 PM

Listen up folks.

Anyone who follows my posts KNOWS I don't just endorse people at random. If I can slam someone I do, and i don't really hesitate for ANYONE in that regard - from newbie to fantasyman or lensman.

Steve Jones (lightspeed) is a man that I have a LOT of respect for. He gives back to the webmaster community more than most companies 10X his size and is a GENUINE person who wears his heart on his sleve. I personally know many of his top affiliates and they ALL say his programs ROCK. I am HONORED to refer to him and the people of his crew as FRIENDs and I only humbully hope they think of me the same way.

As for the child porn shit that brad is talking about - it's all BULLSHIT. The law says 18 - and Steve has nothing but girls that are 18+ on his sites. He portrays them as such too, as some 18 year olds ARE still in high school - so some sets are of that nature. If he were to portray them as in elementry school I'd have a problem but Steve DOESN'T do that. I see NOTHING wrong with his business practices or how he shows his models. Lightspeed is a FIRST class operation.


Now for Brad Shaw, I've never met the man but I can say that I see that he shows a lot of hate. It's a horrible way to live and I truly feel sorry for Brad.


A great man died in Winnipeg (my city) the other day - Issy Asper, age 71. A world class billionaire, Isy had a saying. If you want money give it away. He donated MILLIONS to different charities in Winnipeg and against the advise of his acohahahahaants he often did it before he was financially ready to do it. Why? - because although Issy didn't use these exact terms Issy did believe in something like KARMA. He felt that everything he did would come back to him, and it did 10,000X over. So Issy would give millions and then go make his business deals and make Billions.

Steve is the porn world's equivalant of Isy Asper. Brad should take a lesson from that as Steve's examples are something to look up to, and aspire to.


My guess is that Brad's hatred towards lightspeed probally stems from Brad attempting a knockoff of some of lightspeeds programs that didn't work and now he's bitter about it and lashing out.


Steve - don't listen to this bitter asshole Brad. I truly believe you are a great man with an even greater destiny ahead of you. I simply feel sorry for Brad as his hatred has clouded his vision and he doesn't see the big picture.

Given the choice of a roll model, I publically state that I aspire to be more like Steve Jones.

bauhaus 10-10-2003 09:29 PM

Hell I gotta actually add as well.... Steve is one hell of a cool guy, very level headed in respects to this biz. And definitely one guy I think will continue to make some serious cash.

He keeps good people close to him and treats all his girls with respect, that I can vouch for...

All good Steve...hope to hook up with you again soon.

BradShaw 10-10-2003 09:32 PM

Obviously the Attorney General of Michigan has a problem with the appearance of the models on Steve Jones websites as well.

This business is not all about getting along. This is a fragmented business, except it. (look at acacia) Anyone remember the GIA that I presonally sank?

Steve told me point blank that he got into this biz due to his own sexual perversion. Steve is not a business man.

BradShaw 10-10-2003 09:34 PM

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Given the choice of a roll model, I publically state that I aspire to be more like Steve Jones
Do some drugs, run around with young girls while your wife sits at home, thats a good start.

GTS Mark 10-10-2003 09:40 PM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream


A great man died in Winnipeg (my city) the other day - Issy Asper, age 71. A world class billionaire, Isy had a saying. If you want money give it away. He donated MILLIONS to different charities in Winnipeg and against the advise of his acohahahahaants he often did it before he was financially ready to do it. Why? - because although Issy didn't use these exact terms Issy did believe in something like KARMA. He felt that everything he did would come back to him, and it did 10,000X over. So Issy would give millions and then go make his business deals and make Billions.

Steve is the porn world's equivalant of Isy Asper. Brad should take a lesson from that as Steve's examples are something to look up to, and aspire to..

Absolutely 100% on the money.

DH

SleazyDream 10-10-2003 09:46 PM

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Originally posted by BradShaw


Do some drugs, run around with young girls while your wife sits at home, thats a good start.

Steve's wife was at the Island Gathering.

My wife was at Hollywood.

I've never even smoked a joint in my life.

SleazyDream 10-10-2003 09:49 PM

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Originally posted by BradShaw

Steve told me point blank that he got into this biz due to his own sexual perversion. Steve is not a business man.

as did I, and many many other people in this biz,

I'm curious how steve's admission of a fettish for cheerleaders corrulates to his business sense?





Brad - did you get into gay sites cause of some sort of underlying psychological urge to be invloved with that lifestyle?

BradShaw 10-10-2003 10:01 PM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream


Steve's wife was at the Island Gathering.

My wife was at Hollywood.

I've never even smoked a joint in my life.


Never said you did (good to see I am not the only one who has never touched drugs), I was simply saying if you wanted to be more like Steve, you could start.


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