I don't think Steve even has to defend himself, he knows what he is doing and doing it well along with legit.
Why should he waste his time defending something that does need defending?

tina

That was cute Rick, you remembered. BTW, upon our return from Vancouver I am done, no more *cough*

Hugs babe,
me
xo

Age 18 is to young, should be 21.

regardless of what "the age" should be, there will always be people who look younger than they are, and people who want to see that.

My point was more too, a 18 old girl who wants to be in porn doesnt understand what the porn industry is about.
And ofcourse she looks young at that age.

The industry takes advantage of this, i dont know who steve is. I dont know lightspeed cash or what the fuck its called. However, if i asked steve or bradshaw or lensman or any other person on this board if they would allow their daughter to do the same thing that Steve´s models does....would they say yes?

Wake up and breath the air, what kind of girls really take theese kind of jobs? The intelligens ones with a good school education?


At age 18 you know as much as a 17 year old one or 16.
Put the age at 21 years old. Atleast they have more between the ears. They may look young, but atleast they are more prepared.

anyone who thinks that lowly of models doesnt need to be in this business. i shoot 18 year olds all the time, and most of them are smarter than half the people on this board, you included :)

I'd like to take the liberty to formally close this thread. Let's recap.

Brad Shaw backed up what he said.

Steve from Light speed is a hypocrite and is bad for the industry.

Rick from CJ will defend the devil if he buys spots on CJ.

I think this covers it.

You forgot:

jason420's tongue now smells like BradShaw's ass :glugglug

Seriously, its a miracle that you even manage to use this board. I guess there is hope for mankind.

Very well said Rick. I have known Steve and his staff for well over a year now and his program is the only revshare program I use because I trust him as a business man and as a good friend. All his sites are fully legal, tasteful and great quality that keeps surfers recurring for months and months. More importantly, he treats his girls with the upmost respect.

WG

:1orglaugh



50 whining bitches making fake drama to compensate for small dick syndrome

Brad,

I like you. You seem like a cool guy. But I think your real issue(s) with Steve has(have) nothing to do with the appearance of his models. That's a good excuse to lash out at him, but it's way off base.

The law says a model must be 18. If she's 18 years old, great... she's legal. It doesn't matter how young she looks. Why should a model be penalized for looking young? Steve pays his models pretty well. Many of his girls are making more than they would with a Master's degree. Why should that be taken from them simply because of the age they LOOK to be?

What's the real problem you have with Steve?

-DP

How much, Id like to know.
What do they earn?

Lightspeed Rocks:thumbsup
Brad shaw just wishes his ugly crack whores converted aswell as lightspeed sites.
Brad get over it, the girls are all over 18 and convert better than any of your shit!!
Jealousy is a mother fucker :1orglaugh

you just insulted a LOT of people in this biz. you're saying any girl who is 18, is doing porn because she's stupid and uneducated???

get a fucking clue

It would not be appropriate for me to disclose the dollar figures I've been told by both Steve and some of his models. But if you ask Steve HE'D probably tell you.

I CAN tell you that some of them make DOUBLE what I made in the mainstream world (before I entered this incredible industry) as a Technology Consultant for a very well respected firm, and they didn't have to go through college like I did or deal with all those engineering classes like I did.

brad can blow me

Dude, what 18 year old do you know thats educated.
Who can be educated at that age. Get a fucking clue of what youre saying.

What im saying is pretty clear, a girl at age 18 isnt ready to have that kind of responsibility. It doesnt take a einstein to understand that.

Ofcourse there are exceptions, but then again we cant argue with them as a argument since there arent to many of them.

So until you make a stupid comment again, spare us both time and think it over.

STEVE @ LIghtspeed, i know you are reading this. What are you paying your models? And dont lie :-)

Id hate to use the Y / 2 = X


Y = the amount you tell me.. :)

I think if they had to accept the fact that thier daughters were going to do porn they would be glad they went with Lightspeed

there is almost no hardcore
they are on a contract not a one time fee
and they are not made up to be big whores that take cock all day up the ass



that being said I hope Lensmans daughter and Steves ( brad doesnt have one ) never get into porn they will be running the biz instead

They're over the age of 18. End of fucking story.

nevermind, you obviously have no idea what im saying or what youre saying.

If they are exclusive models they make a salery for shooting and a nice percentage of there sites sales


if they are not they make about 100 dollars an hour
usually working 4 to 5 hours a day for softcore photography

Hell Tawnee Stone makes probably more then you do a month!

PS there is a lot of money to be won at lightspeedcash in the $25,000 giveaway this month

You mean Steve would be happy that his daughter would be the miss party-whore-who-everyone-fucks?
Why not be a "pornstar" as the rest of the models? Why run the biz when you can show off and make "decent" money.

Man I hate coming to threads late....


Good discussion.... I see points on both sides. We have shot numerous girls who were 18. We have also put girls in pig-tails, and have had them hold teddy bears.

This thread is pretty interesting, birds of a feather....

Im glad you took Tawnee as a example, that girl really looks young. This is what Brad is talking about I guess.

With that face and body and clothing that lightspeedcash picks out for her...if she didnt earn a lot then something would be wrong right?

Still none is answering my question, do you think Steve would let his daughter do porn?

Mike, i love the TV site your running.
Keep up the good work. :thumbsup

obviously you didnt read my post I did answer your question

and obviosly you havnt seen lightspeed sites cause there not made out to be the whore that fucks everyone.....

I don't think most of us would be incredibly happy of our daughters did porn. Furthermore, Lightspeed isn't typical porn.

You're barking up a dead tree.

Atleast! You gave me a straight answer.
Would you allow it, yes or no?

Why not be happy if your daughter did porn? Do think its a bad job?

Depends on the porn. I would never "let" my girl friends do hardcore, but soft stuff is fine. You're comparing apples to oranges. Lightspeed is NOT Bang Bus.

I'm waiting for the hardcore girls to flame me...

YOU are NO Einstein, that's for certain. 18 year olds are able to go and get their heads blown off in a foreign country fighting a war for this country.

As for educated 18 year olds, well, most all of them that score high enough on their SATs to get into a decent college would qualify as educated.

As for shooting 18 year old girls, every major content provider has and does, including Brad. There's nothing wrong with it. There's a reason we have laws, and that is so people who do go around making stupid comments have to follow them.

Get a clue.

Bradshaw, is a hypocrite! Lightspeed is a very good guy, always willing to help...

Bradshaw is a proven, cheater, and known for NOT helping anyone else.....

Lightspeed made his own very succesful LEGAL business model, on his own, and it works...

Bradshaw, had to steal someone else's idea, and business plan, to get his success.

hmmm who would a reasonable person prefer to know?:2 cents:

Sly, alright. So you say Lightningspeed doesnt have any hardcore sites at all. The girls doesnt get used at partys either?


About bangbus, i saw some movie with them.
Is it true that they just run off without paying the girls who have sex in the bus? Or is that just fake?!

it's real.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

I fail to see the similarity btw the army and the girls doing porn.
The boys in the army is being lead by professional soldiers whom are working under the laws and orders by the goverment.
Not by some private held company.

Ok, since you have college in USA and we dont here in Sweden its a bit of difference. But anyone here who doesnt have university education isnt educated.
So that means, that ATLEAST they should have college education.

Nah, it cant be.
In the states you can sue anyone you like for anything.
Those girls would be mad rich if its where true.

:)

wrong. they simply don't give a shit about the law. looks like it's worked so far.

guess you have never been to a lightspeed party with our girls either your not getting in thier pants

you would be kicked out man have I seen some people thrown out of parties where they guys were tryign to take advantage of the lightspeed girls

there is a very strict no messing with the models rule ask anyone thats been around them

I have had to send a few people packing thier bags messing with the models this is another reason we dont take them out to all the parties we dont want them in a situation that compromises there trust in us. Our models love working for us cause we do take care of them and we dont put them in iffy situations


Tanker