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Old 09-27-2003, 02:54 PM   #101
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also, saddam hussien hasn't been found yet either. does that mean he never existed?


face it, if your president isn't getting blow jobs from ugly chicks, you just can't identify with him
Two spurious arguments in an otherwise possibly interesting conversation.

Stay on subject 12clicks. Prove to us you're more than emoticons and tired insults.
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oh, to live in such a simple world.
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were they joke books? I didn't know.

but hey, I'll conceed your point.

I love people who take their political guide from a comedian
political satirists, and humorists have been around for centuries, and I'm sure there are a few you've enjoyed...what's your point?
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then you *do* believe there was no such thing as saddam hussien!
The UN saw him before the war too but now he's gone. I guess he, like the WMDs, don't exist.
Which syllable of the word "disarmed" do you not understand?

Well?
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Two spurious arguments in an otherwise possibly interesting conversation.

Stay on subject 12clicks. Prove to us you're more than emoticons and tired insults.
answer the question einstien. do you believe saddam exists even though we haven't found him yet?

he only had about a month to hide but had 10 years to hide his WMDs.
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oh, to live in such a simple world.
You're a disappointment.

You can trade insults, but not much more.
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Which syllable of the word "disarmed" do you not understand?

Well?
I'm sure you have a link proving your disarmed *theory*

you can't just prattle on pretending your statements are facts.
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I love people who take their political guide from a comedian
well, i'm glad you love me. i love you too even though you're an asshole.
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You're a disappointment.

You can trade insults, but not much more.
ahhhh, when corned to proved facts or show reason, you resort to name calling.
typical liberal.
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well, i'm glad you love me. i love you too even though you're an asshole.
I'm only an asshole to the wrong.
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ahhhh, when corned to proved facts or show reason, you resort to name calling.
typical liberal.
I wonder if you see the irony in this post.
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well, I gotta go grill some stakes.
I'll pick this up later.
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I'm sure you have a link proving your disarmed *theory*

you can't just prattle on pretending your statements are facts.
Do you actually keep up with the news?

After Iraq War I, the country was crawling with weapons inspectors with positive results.

I never said he was fully disarmed.

But again I ask - where are these weapons we invaded for?

Just answer me that one simple question. You probably won't.
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ahh. then i'm safe!
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I wonder if you see the irony in this post.
yes, I see you making a statement you can't back up about disarming saddam and using a double standard about not finding WMDs or saddam and then going into name calling.

When I call you an idiot, I back it up with proof.

Now while I'm away you can either run away or you can go get some facts on this fantom disarming of saddam
lets see what you do.
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I never said he was fully disarmed.
ahhh, backpeddle!

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But again I ask - where are these weapons we invaded for?

Just answer me that one simple question. You probably won't.
hidden as is saddam. if this is your best comeback, don't bother.
you're a joke.
when I return, I'll post all of hans blixes statements about WMDs that have not been accounted for. (there, you have plenty of time for a rebuttle)

kids these days asre so easy.

see you later. dinner's calling.
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who the fuck is michael moore and why should I care?
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hidden as is saddam. if this is your best comeback, don't bother.
you're a joke.
when I return, I'll post all of hans blixes statements about WMDs that have not been accounted for. (there, you have plenty of time for a rebuttle)

kids these days asre so easy.

see you later. dinner's calling.
As I already said, you're able to trade insults, but little of any substance.

I understand your political mentally exactly. You're pretty much a cliche. You're an extremist, who believes his president always speaks the truth, and thinks Coulter is an authority on anything.

Funny, funny, shit.

And you keep deflecting, and not actually answering a simple question -

Where are the WMD's we went to war over?

That's it.

We went to war because "There was a threat from WMD's"

NONE have been found.

That's it.

You can try to deflect this point or avoid the issue, but that is a fact.

You were duped.

And you don't seem to mind.

You'll retort to this with another lame comback. Or some facts you believe are related.

But you won't actually answer the question.

And that greatly makes me doubt the efficacy of your judgement.

If you can't see you were led into a war over false pretenses, then who am I to care?

Your obvious ignorance and naivity gives me plenty of entertainment.
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As I already said, you're able to trade insults, but little of any substance.

I understand your political mentally exactly. You're pretty much a cliche. You're an extremist, who believes his president always speaks the truth, and thinks Coulter is an authority on anything.

Funny, funny, shit.

And you keep deflecting, and not actually answering a simple question -

Where are the WMD's we went to war over?

That's it.

We went to war because "There was a threat from WMD's"

NONE have been found.

That's it.

You can try to deflect this point or avoid the issue, but that is a fact.

You were duped.

And you don't seem to mind.

You'll retort to this with another lame comback. Or some facts you believe are related.

But you won't actually answer the question.

And that greatly makes me doubt the efficacy of your judgement.

If you can't see you were led into a war over false pretenses, then who am I to care?

Your obvious ignorance and naivity gives me plenty of entertainment.

Not sure why you waste so much energy on this sick fuck. He is in some serious need of professional help but he'll never get it because in his mind all shrinks are liberals. His ability to survive this long with a severe mental handicap is a marvel of nature.
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It is not proven that WMD's don't exist. So they must exist. Guilty until proven otherwise.
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nice...without knowing anybody...you can seperate the reactions from the usa people and europeans :-) funny
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I never understand people that say the Oscars was the wrong place to say something. Unless I missed something, the ceremony is not a State sponsored ceremony, it is not religious, it is merely an industry awards ceremony...much like the carpet fitters of Texa's end of the year awards.

So, this guy (wether you agree with him or not) has strong views and has just won an award based on a project that deals with these issues and at a high tention moment in society (just gone to war) and take the chance to be heard. Do you not speak up when you have a passionate view? Do you not stand up and be counted?
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the sad thing is the democrats have to use obnoxious comedy writers like moore and franken , as 'legit' frontmen for the party.
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Not sure why you waste so much energy on this sick fuck. He is in some serious need of professional help but he'll never get it because in his mind all shrinks are liberals. His ability to survive this long with a severe mental handicap is a marvel of nature.
I know, I know.

I guess if they don't want to help themselves, there's no helping them.

It baffles me what sort of life someone must live or what environment someone is bought up in to foster and fully believe the mentality I've seen from someone like 12clicks.

It's so out of step with the rest of the world that it's just baffling.

It's even more worrying that he truly believes he's right.

As I said, there's no helping some people.

Problem is, people with such a fixed mentality can cause a lot of damage.

Now of course I wouln't dream of comparing 12clicks to Hitler.

But I see a lot of similarities in the mindset. 100% conviction in their own correctness. Disdain for other points of view (even with clear evidence).

As we've seen, blinkered individuals can do a lot of damage.

Oh well, fuck him. He's probably got enough Muslims after his blood just from his comments on this board.

The "Salmon Rushdie" of GFY.
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the sad thing is the democrats have to use obnoxious comedy writers like moore and franken , as 'legit' frontmen for the party.
rooster - do you want what's best for America?

If you do, do you feel partisan fighting really helps?

We all know you're a staunch Republican and like to fight your corner.

But does it actually achieve anything, or do you just like to bitch about Democrats?
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I love people who take their political guide from a failed comedian.
How has Al Franken failed?
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he makes fake documentaries for people who watch MTV and listen to KORN all day and who are still rebeling against their parents. maybe even GROUNDED!!!

basically he makes documentaries about guns and kids, when they are his only audience.

see how it works?

make a movie about a certain type of people and they will rent and watch it.

thats what happened with bowling for columbine.

MTV generation at its peak

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good post uno. too bad some people just can't accept the truth...
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oh, to live in such a simple world.
it's only a simple world for simple-minded Republicans.

Read a book. Vote Democrat.

Burn a book. Vote Republican.

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it's only a simple world for simple-minded Republicans.

Read a book. Vote Democrat.

Burn a book. Vote Republican.

I can't wait til your heroes A s h c r o f t and Bush comes and gets you conservative pornographers
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If you watch the movie it makes the good point that Canada has just as many guns but they have virtually no gun murders. It's a better argument for blaming the media in the USA rather than the guns themselves.

And when I say media, I say the news. It was crazy to hear that the murder rate had gone down by a certain % but 600% more of the murders were reported on the news. I guess fear really does sell. the media.
This is far too subtle a point for most conservatives to grasp without drawings.
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thanks for posting uno

amazing how blind, scared and clueless some gun lovers are...
replace gun lovers = americans

some = big part

there you go
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hidden as is saddam. if this is your best comeback, don't bother.
you're a joke.
when I return, I'll post all of hans blixes statements about WMDs that have not been accounted for. (there, you have plenty of time for a rebuttle)

kids these days asre so easy.

see you later. dinner's calling.
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I never understand people that say the Oscars was the wrong place to say something. Unless I missed something, the ceremony is not a State sponsored ceremony, it is not religious, it is merely an industry awards ceremony...much like the carpet fitters of Texa's end of the year awards.

So, this guy (wether you agree with him or not) has strong views and has just won an award based on a project that deals with these issues and at a high tention moment in society (just gone to war) and take the chance to be heard. Do you not speak up when you have a passionate view? Do you not stand up and be counted?
oh i'm glad he did it, just based on the reaction he got it was the wrong place to do it if he wanted to accomplish something.
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he makes fake documentaries for people who watch MTV and listen to KORN all day and who are still rebeling against their parents. maybe even GROUNDED!!!

basically he makes documentaries about guns and kids, when they are his only audience.

see how it works?

make a movie about a certain type of people and they will rent and watch it.

thats what happened with bowling for columbine.

MTV generation at its peak

hahaha
care to rebutt his rebuttal?
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good post uno. too bad some people just can't accept the truth...
I thought it was really interesting.
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he makes fake documentaries for people who watch MTV and listen to KORN all day and who are still rebeling against their parents. maybe even GROUNDED!!!

basically he makes documentaries about guns and kids, when they are his only audience.

see how it works?

make a movie about a certain type of people and they will rent and watch it.

thats what happened with bowling for columbine.

MTV generation at its peak

hahaha
#1 let me just establish I am AGAINST gun control..now let me qualify that.
There are certain weapons I think that should not be handled by the every day citizen. but your normal fare of handguns, and rifles is all right by me.
I also don't think there is a problem with a waiting period or a background check.
hell if you have to take a test to drive a car you should have to take one to operate a weapon.

#2 I don't listen to Korn, I don't watch MTV and I've been a big fan of Michael Moore's movies since Roger and Me, and I haven't been grounded in almost 20 years.

#3 I have only seen ONE movie he has made about guns. His other's have been usually about corporate america.

And last but not least...I find him entertaining and even cutting edge.

You've got people like Tom Green, Jackass, The Truth commercials copying him...it was the MTV Generation who stole some of his style.

No he wasn't doing wacky physical stunts...but things like showing up to the CEO of Muzak's house at 6 am and blasting Muzak from a flatbed full of stereo speakers.

Or showing up to GE and challenging the CEO to change a lightbulb *which he wouldn't*
or to Ford and challenging him to change the oil in a pick up truck *which he did*.

showing up to stockholder meetings etc.

so he's not your cup of tea...that's cool.

but you can't deny that he's good at what he does, and sucessful.
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Old 09-28-2003, 04:22 PM   #142
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oh i'm glad he did it, just based on the reaction he got it was the wrong place to do it if he wanted to accomplish something.
well he accomplished it still being talked about all these months on and more people have seen the film than would have even if he had one (happy so say, I am one of the ones who saw it before he won).

Hardly the first one to bring politics to the awards..just ask Richard Gere and Marlon Brando. Atleast this time it actually had something to do with why he was there in the first place.
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But I see a lot of similarities in the mindset. 100% conviction in their own correctness. Disdain for other points of view (even with clear evidence).

you have no clear evidence. Compromising with people who are wrong weakens you. I don't do it. Being wrong, of course you don't like it. so?

think about what the "uranidiot" and "thunderballs" are in this world and what they've accomplished.
Now think of why any intelligent person would lend them credibility. (about anything)
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Excellent read... I've been waiting for his rebuttal, and it's a good one.

I'm about to read his new book.
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Old 09-29-2003, 10:10 AM   #145
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How did you even bring yourself to go to a country such as Canada for the Montreal show? That is an entire country full of liberals.
HEY!! WE in quebec like to think of only Blocists and PQer's! LOL

nah!!! I just wanted to add something. I avoid political talks if I can. But only us Canuks will understand my comment.
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Old 09-29-2003, 10:30 AM   #146
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WOW according to that link we are 7 for rapes per capita and are behind Canada and Australia. Murders per capita we are 23rd. Not one of the 22 countries a head of us would you want to visit let alone live in though.
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