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Old 09-27-2003, 07:15 AM   #51
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Mike Moore is a fat fuck with an ugly beard but that didnt take away the validity of the points in his movie.
No, what takes away the validity is the "creation" of facts in his so called documentaries.
he's a bore, nothing more.
If he was on the right instead of the left, he'd get buried for his lies.

If you think he makes good documentaries, you're not likely to go far in this world. you're not bright enough.
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The movie was great.

As a respectable gun owner it made me think - hard.

I always liked Heston until I saw the movie. Edited or not Heston is a prick who might as well be in the KKK the way he was talking about "non whites".
Of course Michael Moore didn't mention that Heston wa actually a good friend of Marthen Luther King, and was THE most active white celebrety in the pro black movement!!!
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If you watch the movie it makes the good point that Canada has just as many guns but they have virtually no gun murders. It's a better argument for blaming the media in the USA rather than the guns themselves.

And when I say media, I say the news. It was crazy to hear that the murder rate had gone down by a certain % but 600% more of the murders were reported on the news. I guess fear really does sell. the media.
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you leftists still obsessed with comedy writers, pathetic.
What would you call Limbaugh or Coulter?
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No, what takes away the validity is the "creation" of facts in his so called documentaries.
he's a bore, nothing more.
If he was on the right instead of the left, he'd get buried for his lies.

If you think he makes good documentaries, you're not likely to go far in this world. you're not bright enough.
The Bush admin still seems afloat, though admittedly sinking quite a bit.
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What would you call Limbaugh or Coulter?
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I think it's a safe bet that applies to you too.
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The Bush admin still seems afloat, though admittedly sinking quite a bit.
ah, you're one of those guys who likes to call bush a liar.
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wait a sec... the name is ringing a bell here.... isn't he the same fool that was booed off the stage at some awards show for ranting about some nonsense?
Do you spend your life watching the History channel or what? That's some bubble you live in.
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If you watch the movie it makes the good point that Canada has just as many guns but they have virtually no gun murders. It's a better argument for blaming the media in the USA rather than the guns themselves.

And when I say media, I say the news. It was crazy to hear that the murder rate had gone down by a certain % but 600% more of the murders were reported on the news. I guess fear really does sell. the media.
If it bleeds, it leads.
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ah, you're one of those guys who likes to call bush a liar.
oh well.
So Bush isn't a liar? Poor gullible fool.
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So Bush isn't a liar? Poor gullible fool.
yes, you've proven how gullible you are.

now please trot out how Bush lied about nuclear progams and WMDs.

silly liberal kid.
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right?

Even you have to laugh at Coulter.

Are you going to GoGoBar's tonight? It would be great to meet you finally.
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ah, you're one of those guys who likes to call bush a liar.
oh well.
I'll call him a deceiver instead of a liar. He doesn't lie. His statements are skillfully crafted with exit plans. He never says anything as definitive. See the this post
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yes, you've proven how gullible you are.

now please trot out how Bush lied about nuclear progams and WMDs.

silly liberal kid.
Everyone right of Steve Forbes is a liberal to you aren't they?

So you honestly believe that every single comment Bush has said in public is the truth?

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Even you have to laugh at Coulter.

Are you going to GoGoBar's tonight? It would be great to meet you finally.
Nope, Coulter is right. Read treason. she's dead on.

I'm not going to GoGo's tonight. I think what he's doing is great but you young liberals aren't really my crowd.
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Everyone right of Steve Forbes is a liberal to you aren't they?

So you honestly believe that every single comment Bush has said in public is the truth?

Please let me know. I might have some real estate to sell you.
Please enlighten the group to his lies.
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Nope, Coulter is right. Read treason. she's dead on.

I'm not going to GoGo's tonight. I think what he's doing is great but you young liberals aren't really my crowd.
How did you even bring yourself to go to a country such as Canada for the Montreal show? That is an entire country full of liberals.
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Nope, Coulter is right. Read treason. she's dead on.
That says everything anyone needs to know about you.
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If you watch the movie it makes the good point that Canada has just as many guns but they have virtually no gun murders. It's a better argument for blaming the media in the USA rather than the guns themselves.

And when I say media, I say the news. It was crazy to hear that the murder rate had gone down by a certain % but 600% more of the murders were reported on the news. I guess fear really does sell. the media.
Now this, was a refreshing response and I agree with you completely. This is probably a first. I'm marking this down.

We have too many psychos in the United States. That's our problem.
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I kept to myself.
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Please enlighten the group to his lies.
I asked you first - do you believe that Bush has told the truth 100% whenever he's spoken in public?
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There were two school shootings in the USA this last week. Both stories barely pierced the national headlnes.
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I asked you first - do you believe that Bush has told the truth 100% whenever he's spoken in public?
No. No politician has, does, or will. Everybody, even non-politicians, lie and twist the truth so it fits their best interests. It's how we work.
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That says everything anyone needs to know about you.
is this your way of dodging my question about Bush';s lies?

liberals are cute with their play ground phases of "That says everything anyone needs to know about you" and
"I might have some real estate to sell you"

but of substance you have none.
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I asked you first - do you believe that Bush has told the truth 100% whenever he's spoken in public?
oops, no this is the dodge you intent do use.
oh no! you've cornered me!

Yes, he's been truthfull about everything. prove me wrong.
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Nope, Coulter is right. Read treason. she's dead on.

I'm not going to GoGo's tonight. I think what he's doing is great but you young liberals aren't really my crowd.
God even Bill O'Reiley thinks Coulter goes way too far. She actually thinks she's gotten a generation of democrats to believe that McCarthy was a hero. Dumb bitch needs to get her head out of her twat.
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Yes, he's been truthfull about everything. prove me wrong.
That's just incredible. Someone who believes politicians.

Oh well, I guess there's one born every minute.
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God even Bill O'Reiley thinks Coulter goes way too far. She actually thinks she's gotten a generation of democrats to believe that McCarthy was a hero. Dumb bitch needs to get her head out of her twat.
he thinks she goes too far by calling treason treason. I don't.
McCarthy was a hero. You have no idea how many government spies were in our government during the cold war.
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That's just incredible. Someone who believes politicians.

Oh well, I guess there's one born every minute.
how cute. again, you have no facts, no ideas, just your cute little liberal slogans.
good luck with life dopey.
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is this your way of dodging my question about Bush';s lies?

liberals are cute with their play ground phases of "That says everything anyone needs to know about you" and
"I might have some real estate to sell you"

but of substance you have none.
Coulter is a head case. Right and left wingers agree on this.

Saying the things she does, in any other time in history she'd probably be committed.

But instead, Fox put her on TV.
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he thinks she goes too far by calling treason treason. I don't.
McCarthy was a hero. You have no idea how many government spies were in our government during the cold war.
The end doesn't justify the means.
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Coulter is a head case. Right and left wingers agree on this.

Saying the things she does, in any other time in history she'd probably be committed.

But instead, Fox put her on TV.
keep toeing the liberal party line, you'll convert us, I swear.

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The end doesn't justify the means.
you don't even know the means. the movie you got your "facts" from is wrong.
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how cute. again, you have no facts, no ideas, just your cute little liberal slogans.
good luck with life dopey.
You admitted you believe everything that comes out of a politician's mouth.

That truly is shocking.

Talk about gullible.

Oh well.

I have plenty of examples. But you'll have a standard answer for each one I'm sure.

Like for example:

This war was based on the threat of WMD's. None have been found.

Was Bush lying, badly informed, or has Saddam hidden them all up his sleeve?

Can you give a straight answer to a straight question? I'd be interested to find out. I'm not holding my breath.
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keep toeing the liberal party line, you'll convert us, I swear.

I've no interest in "converting" anyone. Just wondering if you can be at all pragmatic.

I know you believe what you say. But I'd like to see if you actually have any facts to back up your beliefs, or are you so blinded by idiology?
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A woman named Coulter cried "Treason."
She did it without any reason.
Though we know that she lied,
'Twas perhaps justified:
On her brain, I'm afraid, there's a lesion.


CHAPTER 3/ You Know Who I Don't Like? Ann Coulter - from 'Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them' by Al Franken

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You admitted you believe everything that comes out of a politician's mouth.

That truly is shocking.

Talk about gullible.

Oh well.

I have plenty of examples. But you'll have a standard answer for each one I'm sure.

Like for example:

This war was based on the threat of WMD's. None have been found.

Was Bush lying, badly informed, or has Saddam hidden them all up his sleeve?

Can you give a straight answer to a straight question? I'd be interested to find out. I'm not holding my breath.
He had 10 years to hide them up his sleeve.

here's a link to PBS, you know, that bastion of right wing lies.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/front.../defectors.html
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n 1995, Saddam Hussein actually appeared to be winning in his strategy of cheat and retreat. He had actually managed to hide so many of his weapons that many of the U.N. weapons inspectors thought that he had turned over most of them, and were prepared to make that kind of recommendation. And it was only on the defection of his son-in-law and cousin [Kamel] that the international community realized how much he really still had. The whole crisis actually might have ended at that point, if it hadn't been for that very ... defection. ...

so, if not because of *ONE* bit of luck (saddam's son in law's defection) the UN and the hey, saddam is really a good guy" europeans would have given iraq a clean bill of health about WMDs only to be fooled again


got any other lies, fool?
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Old 09-27-2003, 02:39 PM   #92
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is this your way of dodging my question about Bush';s lies?

liberals are cute with their play ground phases of "That says everything anyone needs to know about you" and
"I might have some real estate to sell you"

but of substance you have none.
You sound like Death in Monty Python's the meaning of life.
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Old 09-27-2003, 02:40 PM   #93
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She did it without any reason.
Though we know that she lied,
'Twas perhaps justified:
On her brain, I'm afraid, there's a lesion.


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Old 09-27-2003, 02:43 PM   #94
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He had 10 years to hide them up his sleeve.

here's a link to PBS, you know, that bastion of right wing lies.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/front.../defectors.html
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n 1995, Saddam Hussein actually appeared to be winning in his strategy of cheat and retreat. He had actually managed to hide so many of his weapons that many of the U.N. weapons inspectors thought that he had turned over most of them, and were prepared to make that kind of recommendation. And it was only on the defection of his son-in-law and cousin [Kamel] that the international community realized how much he really still had. The whole crisis actually might have ended at that point, if it hadn't been for that very ... defection. ...

so, if not because of *ONE* bit of luck (saddam's son in law's defection) the UN and the hey, saddam is really a good guy" europeans would have given iraq a clean bill of health about WMDs only to be fooled again

It's common knowledge he HAD WMD's.

The Iraq war was to get rid of the threat of them NOW.

That was the basis for the quick march to war.

No WMD's have yet to be found.

Maybe he did have WMD's but he would have had to hide them fucking well.

And if they're so well hidden, could they really have been deployed in 45 minutes?

The whole point is: this war was waged against "the threat of WMD's"

None have been found.

I'm sure Bush and Co had their reasons to go to war, but the evidence points towards the threat of WMD's not being a credible one.

So was he lying, or just badly informed?
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Old 09-27-2003, 02:45 PM   #95
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I love people who take their political guide from a failed comedian.
failed. hmmm. let's see: original writer for saturday night live. performer on same show. fairly successful box office on movie starring himself as character from saturday night live. now author of TWO NYT bestselling books...failed.
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It's common knowledge he HAD WMD's.

The Iraq war was to get rid of the threat of them NOW.

That was the basis for the quick march to war.

No WMD's have yet to be found.

Maybe he did have WMD's but he would have had to hide them fucking well.

And if they're so well hidden, could they really have been deployed in 45 minutes?

The whole point is: this war was waged against "the threat of WMD's"

None have been found.

I'm sure Bush and Co had their reasons to go to war, but the evidence points towards the threat of WMD's not being a credible one.

So was he lying, or just badly informed?
ahhhh, so its ok for saddam to *have* WMD's as long as he doesn't wave them around.
silly liberal.
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also, saddam hussien hasn't been found yet either. does that mean he never existed?


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ahhhh, so its ok for saddam to *have* WMD's as long as he doesn't wave them around.
Actually, what I said was he USED to have WMD's. We know that.

The UN largely disarmed him.

Maybe he had some left over. Do we know for sure? No. Because no one can find them.

So in your eyes, was there a credible threat from WMD's? Why when none have been found?

If there was, are you saying that the US and UK armies are so incompetant that 100,000+ soldiers can't find them?
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failed. hmmm. let's see: original writer for saturday night live. performer on same show.
former. very former.
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fairly successful box office on movie starring himself as character from saturday night live.
10 years ago? you and I have a different idea of success.
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now author of TWO NYT bestselling books...failed.
were they joke books? I didn't know.

but hey, I'll conceed your point.

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Actually, what I said was he USED to have WMD's. We know that.

The UN largely disarmed him.

Maybe he had some left over. Do we know for sure? No. Because no one can find them.

So in your eyes, was there a credible threat from WMD's? Why when none have been found?

If there was, are you saying that the US and UK armies are so incompetant that 100,000+ soldiers can't find them?
then you *do* believe there was no such thing as saddam hussien!
The UN saw him before the war too but now he's gone. I guess he, like the WMDs, don't exist.
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