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WiredGuy · 09-24-2003, 09:06 PM

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Originally posted by THE WISEMAN
Maybe we should launch a $40 on paid trial program? I dont think anyone has one those...

I like your sig

WG

Wiseman · 09-24-2003, 09:13 PM

Well considering they are in toranto it is possible they are all out getting drunk by now

BradShaw · 09-24-2003, 09:16 PM

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Originally posted by SpeakEasy

Other than copy other Ideas you are correct....It's funny how they use boards to spam all their stuff, but when confronted with a serious accusation, they are not to be found??...LOL

Ever think it is midnight in toronto? Maybe they have lives away from the net?

WiredGuy · 09-24-2003, 09:20 PM

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Originally posted by BradShaw
Ever think it is midnight in toronto? Maybe they have lives away from the net?

I should be out at a club somewhere...
WG

x3guide · 09-24-2003, 09:20 PM

your designs on the discount stuff look way superior to platinum bucks's

these "surfer quotes" on each one are pretty horrible though

Amputate Your Head · 09-24-2003, 09:20 PM

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Originally posted by BradShaw

Maybe they have lives away from the net?

Blasphemy!!!

Pornkings · 09-24-2003, 09:24 PM

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Originally posted by WiredGuy

I should be out at a club somewhere...
WG

I'll just send Jen over. ha ha

No shit I should be out hunting for my next girlfriend.

It will probably be Shana from North Carolina

Mutt · 09-24-2003, 09:24 PM

pretty obvious they xeroxed the program and the design layout - BUT Truth Hurts is right and AMP admitted it himself, not much original in his layout, it's a very popular one right now, there are hundreds out there.

Lensman should be pissed more than AMP but the big boys are realistic, they expect to be copied, you never hear a word publically from the Bangbros that they invented fake reality video paysites and the layout both AMP and the PlatinumBucks designer was first used by the the OxCash crew. There were long scroller tours before but some anonymous designer at OxCash came up with had enough unique elements that it deserves to be considered an innovation.

AMP's discount site design work is MUCH better than the PlatinumBucks ones.

Sharky · 09-24-2003, 09:25 PM

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Originally posted by Hooper
haha. yeah.. wiseman..good thing nobody has seen the 15 sites we have had ready to launch for TWO MONTHS now that are exactly that style.

lol Hooper!

I think I could actually get an exact date if you like:-)
I'm sure it was BEFORE internext!

oops! did I say something I shoudln't have?

WiredGuy · 09-24-2003, 09:28 PM

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Originally posted by Pornkings
I'll just send Jen over. ha ha

Send her over anytime

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No shit I should be out hunting for my next girlfriend.
It will probably be Shana from North Carolina

You ever keep in touch with her after Arizona?
WG

Amputate Your Head · 09-24-2003, 09:28 PM

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Originally posted by sharky

lol Hooper!

I think I could actually get an exact date if you like:-)
I'm sure it was BEFORE internext!

oops! did I say something I shoudln't have?

and if our shit was plastered on the booth at Internext in full living print color, how far prior to that do you suppose we were actually concepting the whole thing? An hour? A day? Maybe a week you'd give us?

SpeakEasy · 09-24-2003, 09:28 PM

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Originally posted by BradShaw

Ever think it is midnight in toronto? Maybe they have lives away from the net?

Those that live by the boards, will die by the boards...

Sharky · 09-24-2003, 09:34 PM

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Originally posted by Amputate Your Head

and if our shit was plastered on the booth at Internext in full living print color, how far prior to that do you suppose we were actually concepting the whole thing? An hour? A day? Maybe a week you'd give us?

hmm. Just looked. First site was completed May 25.
last site finished was June 6.

Of course I can't speek for Hooper, but I'm pretty sure he is refering to the sites I am thinking of:-)

You raise a point on the coinsidence of a similar launch date and type of program. Does it really matter who thought of the idea first? If they did get the idea from you guys great, kudos to you! if they did not, there are 10 other companies out there where they could have gotten the idea from.

Competition is good.. It keeps people honest... for the most part at least!

Amputate Your Head · 09-24-2003, 09:34 PM

everyone's a fucking innovator.... and naturally, everyone's got some sort of alibi to back it up.

well, I don't know many innovators. And I don't know many above average thinkers. They're few and fucking far between.

But I know one. And I know the Adult.com Think Tank busts some serious fucking ass to make shit happen. And it ain't done by snagging shit off a fucking 8' x 10' booth graphic.

BradShaw · 09-24-2003, 09:34 PM

Here is food for thought.

If you had a "revolutionary" idea, why put on all over at a show 6 weels before it is ready for prime time? So someone else can copy it? Not saying pbucks did, but others should have been quicker and beaten lens to the punch. Amp, I think you need to find out who made the great biz idea to promote an idea that was not ready yet.

Amputate Your Head · 09-24-2003, 09:40 PM

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Originally posted by BradShaw
Here is food for thought.

If you had a "revolutionary" idea, why put on all over at a show 6 weels before it is ready for prime time? So someone else can copy it? Not saying pbucks did, but others should have been quicker and beaten lens to the punch. Amp, I think you need to find out who made the great biz idea to promote an idea that was not ready yet.

sometimes you demonstrate such vast unbridled cluelessness, even I am amazed that you have managed to successfully feed yourself for this long.

BradShaw · 09-24-2003, 09:43 PM

Amp, answer the question. Why promote it, before it is ready. Just begging to be ripped off. I am still upset my guys did not catch it at the show.

SuicideMachine · 09-24-2003, 09:44 PM

im agreeing with amp on this one

aflex · 09-24-2003, 09:47 PM

amp just pulled an Ari Fleischer on Brad Shaw's question

BradShaw · 09-24-2003, 09:49 PM

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Originally posted by aflex
amp just pulled an Ari Fleischer on Brad Shaw's question

Of course he did, because I would imagine that he did the booth graphics under the direction of Lens. Lesson learned. Even old school millionaires can learn lessons.

Mr Pheer · 09-24-2003, 09:52 PM

People steal my shit all the fucking time

Oh how i love j4f mailers that are copies of my work

fucking bastards

Amputate Your Head · 09-24-2003, 09:55 PM

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Originally posted by aflex
amp just pulled an Ari Fleischer on Brad Shaw's question

Ari Fleischer retired didn't he? Big difference. I'm still active.

4Pics · 09-24-2003, 09:57 PM

Nice designs AMP, sucks they borrowed your concepts.

Will be interesting to hear what they have to say though tommorow.

integrated · 09-24-2003, 09:58 PM

i have also a patent on the 'internet'

all such things on the internert belong to me and i want my 2% of you profits

regards
internet owner

Amputate Your Head · 09-24-2003, 09:58 PM

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Originally posted by BradShaw
Amp, answer the question. Why promote it, before it is ready. Just begging to be ripped off. I am still upset my guys did not catch it at the show.

I think it's uncalled for, for you to try to turn this around on me. Stick to the issue at hand. This is not a witch hunt. The facts remain. There can be no denial.

Next.

BradShaw · 09-24-2003, 09:59 PM

Amp can ignore the legit question. No pissing, just point out the obvious. Good night.

TheEbonyFelony · 09-24-2003, 10:00 PM

SleazyDream · 09-24-2003, 10:02 PM

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Originally posted by Pornkings

I'll just send Jen over. ha ha

No shit I should be out hunting for my next girlfriend.

It will probably be Shana from North Carolina

damn it - i wanted to meet you and missed the opportunity in new york

GrimShawn · 09-24-2003, 10:04 PM

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Originally posted by Amputate Your Head

sometimes you demonstrate such vast unbridled cluelessness, even I am amazed that you have managed to successfully feed yourself for this long.

amazing lol

JD · 09-24-2003, 10:06 PM

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Originally posted by GrimShawn

WuRD!

4Pics · 09-24-2003, 10:14 PM

You should Pin this thread until you get a response.

Lensman · 09-24-2003, 10:14 PM

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Originally posted by Amputate Your Head

dude.... now, I realize you didn't exactly do a "File ---> Save As --->" here.... but what the fuck man? You ganked my whole base layout & fricken formula?

mine:

yours:

mine:

yours:

call me crazy, but it looks like a copy to me. Do your designers have any original thoughts? Or were they directed to gank my shit?

Damn, I haven't seen PlatinumBuck's new $10 sites until now, and it's obvously no accident that they look very similar to Amp's designs he did for Adult.com. I knew they were looking to do a program like our new one, which I said was fine. After all, they had a look at it almost 2 months ago. But copying the sites too?

Tofu · 09-24-2003, 10:25 PM

WiredGuy · 09-24-2003, 10:28 PM

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Originally posted by Lensman
Damn, I haven't seen PlatinumBuck's new $10 sites until now, and it's obvously no accident that they look very similar to Amp's designs he did for Adult.com. I knew they were looking to do a program like our new one, which I said was fine. After all, they had a look at it almost 2 months ago. But copying the sites too?

I guess Lensman didn't know what the sites looked like... Sounds like something Lens and Dave should discuss over the phone and not so much over GFY.

WG

Sharky · 09-24-2003, 10:37 PM

Other than the price, I don't see any rip off of the design.

We didn't design them , so I have no interest in the outcome of this.
I just don't see where the ripoff comments are coming from.

Wiseman · 09-24-2003, 10:42 PM

Damnit Sharky if we could only speak with out the Texas maufia comeing after us huh??

But in actuality I wonder how much traffic this new shit of PB's is getting from this as well now?

Sharky · 09-24-2003, 10:49 PM

I hear ya wiseman!

You guys have had stuff brewing for a while.. lots of good shit. I look forward to it all!

:-)

good exposure for both I imagine!

jimmy3way · 09-24-2003, 10:53 PM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream
well i lok at the evidence and here's what i think, not that it matters.

amp's look a LOT and I mean a LOT, better. So much so that i think amp is actually belittling himself a wee bit even comparing those other sites to his work.

cleaner - lighter - and they make you focus on specific parts of it. Amp's work is light and SWEET and the other is, well, busy and heavy.

trying to copy maybe - succeeding ...........nope.

My thoughts exactly. It looks, really, like somebody with some seriously weak Photoshop skills tried to copy the work of a much more talented guy.

Carrie · 09-24-2003, 10:55 PM

This whole thing reminds me of an article that Brad posted over on Oprano:
http://www.msnbc.com/news/969329.asp?0ql=c7p
Innovation Is Overrated

Base point being - it doesn't matter one bit who came up with an idea. What matters is who makes the most of the idea - usually the folks that come later do better, because they can launch an improved product.

I also agree with the "why show it off before launch" theory - you don't show your hand until you're ready to rake over the chips.

4Pics · 09-24-2003, 11:08 PM

I see nothing wrong with showing it off.. But copying the design is another story.

Otherwise what would the show be if nothing new was there to see?

You don't goto a auto show and not see new concept cars.

pornJester · 09-25-2003, 12:13 AM

drama drama drama

btw, see sig

AaronM · 09-25-2003, 12:18 AM

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Originally posted by 404
"ganked"?

See next reply.

AaronM · 09-25-2003, 12:23 AM

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Originally posted by 404
"ganked"?

[Female: Hmm, I see, so you're rather violent?]
Sometimes
[Female: Ok, what would be the situation when you so-called "gank" somebody?]

Verse Two: Eazy-E

Wait... for some people to leave
I got another trick up my sleeve
Step with pep to the back of the house
Look then... all the lights are out
Grabbed the door and it's locked, so
easily made my way to the window
Lift it up slow, cause it takes timing
Looked around, and then I climbed in
Once inside, I start takin
Cause you know it's no time for shakin
Get what you gonna get, front and center
or get five years for breakin and enter
Move quickly, but no runnin
Shht, I think somebody's comin
Hear the front door key, and I flee
out the back door with a fist full of jewelry
Over the wall... don't fall
Wipe my sweat cause that was a close call
Gettin ganked by the E is a lesson
So... is there any more questions?

Honeyslut · 09-25-2003, 12:31 AM

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Originally posted by SuicideMachine
he fucking stole your layout.!
it could be a coincidense but come on...
its robbery where i come from

They have an Amp clone

DarkJedi · 09-25-2003, 12:37 AM

ripping something off of adult.com is retarded

Theo · 09-25-2003, 12:41 AM

my thoughts:

I believe more programs prepare $10 sites. Rebilling at $40 is not an easy option anymore. Lower prices will keep the overall cb % of a sponsor within the acceptable visa limits. That's the main purpose of it in my eyes. I might be wrong.

I don't think PB intentionally did anything to copy your designs. The new sites follow the same graphic style of their previous ones. Take a look at Milf Riders and College Fuck Tour for example. I do see some similarities mostly in the bottom part of the tours. My guess if it didn't happen 100% by accident, their designer had a look at one of your tours and got influenced without realizing it.

It doesn't need much thought that any copy attempt would got flamed at the same moment and PB people are smart not to do such thing.

That's my opinion, don't flame me now :-)

Cash · 09-25-2003, 01:23 AM

Soul_Rebel is right, this is the new trend now given by adult.com with lower membership cost for surfers and lower payouts for webmasters, more and more companies will adopt this. This is indeed a revolution or evolution, no matter how you call it, and a new step forward for porn sales.

Xplicit · 09-25-2003, 01:52 AM

These are the days of our lives, on GFY

kmanrox · 09-25-2003, 02:14 AM

would i be out of line to suggest amps first post be posted by platinumdave with the entitlement '0wned!' ? =)

4Pics · 09-25-2003, 02:55 AM

09-24-2003, 09:13 PM	#102
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x3guide Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: lake titicaca Posts: 735	your designs on the discount stuff look way superior to platinum bucks's these "surfer quotes" on each one are pretty horrible though __________________ Shomer fuckin shabbas

09-24-2003, 09:24 PM	#108
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	pretty obvious they xeroxed the program and the design layout - BUT Truth Hurts is right and AMP admitted it himself, not much original in his layout, it's a very popular one right now, there are hundreds out there. Lensman should be pissed more than AMP but the big boys are realistic, they expect to be copied, you never hear a word publically from the Bangbros that they invented fake reality video paysites and the layout both AMP and the PlatinumBucks designer was first used by the the OxCash crew. There were long scroller tours before but some anonymous designer at OxCash came up with had enough unique elements that it deserves to be considered an innovation. AMP's discount site design work is MUCH better than the PlatinumBucks ones. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

09-24-2003, 09:34 PM	#114
Amputate Your Head There can be only one Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Somewhere else Posts: 39,075	everyone's a fucking innovator.... and naturally, everyone's got some sort of alibi to back it up. well, I don't know many innovators. And I don't know many above average thinkers. They're few and fucking far between. But I know one. And I know the Adult.com Think Tank busts some serious fucking ass to make shit happen. And it ain't done by snagging shit off a fucking 8' x 10' booth graphic. __________________ SIG TOO BIG

09-24-2003, 09:34 PM	#115
BradShaw Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: KB's trailer Posts: 7,840	Here is food for thought. If you had a "revolutionary" idea, why put on all over at a show 6 weels before it is ready for prime time? So someone else can copy it? Not saying pbucks did, but others should have been quicker and beaten lens to the punch. Amp, I think you need to find out who made the great biz idea to promote an idea that was not ready yet. __________________ Sig too big http://www.gofuckyourself.com/gfy_faqs.html Want to use a large banner in your sig??? Contact Eric about getting on as an advertiser - eric AT adult.com

09-24-2003, 09:43 PM	#117
BradShaw Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: KB's trailer Posts: 7,840	Amp, answer the question. Why promote it, before it is ready. Just begging to be ripped off. I am still upset my guys did not catch it at the show. __________________ Sig too big http://www.gofuckyourself.com/gfy_faqs.html Want to use a large banner in your sig??? Contact Eric about getting on as an advertiser - eric AT adult.com

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09-24-2003, 09:57 PM	#123
4Pics Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 7,952	Nice designs AMP, sucks they borrowed your concepts. Will be interesting to hear what they have to say though tommorow.

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Sharky Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 4,938	Other than the price, I don't see any rip off of the design. We didn't design them , so I have no interest in the outcome of this. I just don't see where the ripoff comments are coming from. __________________ Sharky

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Sharky Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 4,938	I hear ya wiseman! You guys have had stuff brewing for a while.. lots of good shit. I look forward to it all! :-) good exposure for both I imagine! __________________ Sharky

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Carrie Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Virgin - nee Posts: 3,162	This whole thing reminds me of an article that Brad posted over on Oprano: http://www.msnbc.com/news/969329.asp?0ql=c7p Innovation Is Overrated Base point being - it doesn't matter one bit who came up with an idea. What matters is who makes the most of the idea - usually the folks that come later do better, because they can launch an improved product. I also agree with the "why show it off before launch" theory - you don't show your hand until you're ready to rake over the chips.

09-24-2003, 11:08 PM	#140
4Pics Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 7,952	I see nothing wrong with showing it off.. But copying the design is another story. Otherwise what would the show be if nothing new was there to see? You don't goto a auto show and not see new concept cars.

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09-25-2003, 12:37 AM	#145
DarkJedi No Refunds Issued. Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: GFY Posts: 28,300	ripping something off of adult.com is retarded

09-25-2003, 12:41 AM	#146
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	my thoughts: I believe more programs prepare $10 sites. Rebilling at $40 is not an easy option anymore. Lower prices will keep the overall cb % of a sponsor within the acceptable visa limits. That's the main purpose of it in my eyes. I might be wrong. I don't think PB intentionally did anything to copy your designs. The new sites follow the same graphic style of their previous ones. Take a look at Milf Riders and College Fuck Tour for example. I do see some similarities mostly in the bottom part of the tours. My guess if it didn't happen 100% by accident, their designer had a look at one of your tours and got influenced without realizing it. It doesn't need much thought that any copy attempt would got flamed at the same moment and PB people are smart not to do such thing. That's my opinion, don't flame me now :-)

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