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sexeducation 09-21-2003 09:07 AM

On a side note: They have rights. If we do not treat them humanely - we become the enemy as well.

I didn't notice if they have shoes?
interesting ...

HeadPimp 09-21-2003 09:09 AM

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Originally posted by Joe Average


The right to a trial for one... if they are actually guilty of anything other than defending their own country.

Fuck trials, when you decide to pick a fight with another country, you had better be ready for what they will do to you. If you are stupid enough to back a regime that wants to kick shit with the good old USA then you deserve what you get.

chodadog 09-21-2003 09:25 AM

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Originally posted by Corleone
http://white-rose.net/images/guantanamo.jpg

just look at all those happy people. back to 1945.. Bushs little KZ on guantanamo

thats BAD.

yeah i know they're all bad talibans but they have human rights.

Looks to me like they're praying.

<font size=+6><B>This just in, oppressive US forces allow captured Taliban forces to exercise their religious rights.</b></font>

Those BASTARDS!!!

Idiot.

Furious_Female 09-21-2003 02:00 PM

Corleone you are an ignorant piece of shit and you need to shut the fuck up. Posting an image like that means nothing. It can be interpretted as many different things, but it doesn't state what is happening there, does it? You act like they are being beaten with whips, chained to fences, starved to death and living in their own waste. They look fairly clean and healthy to me. Post some images of Taliban prisons... I have seen pictures of the torture chambers, those fucks are outside on a sunny day, in clean uniforms, not even being touched. They are getting the same humane treatment all priosoners in the US get, maybe even better.

And if you want to think Bush is going to hell for "murder", you want to bring the Bible into this... Ok. The Bible also says "An eye for an eye". They deserve what they get, but if we inflicted upon them what they have done to our people, it wouldn't be humane. They were not defending their country, they were supporting terrorism, the same way you are. So seriously, you and them fuck off :321GFY

darkeye78 09-21-2003 02:04 PM

FUCK USA

Carlito 09-21-2003 02:07 PM

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Originally posted by brand0n
fuck em, fuck em up the ass, fuck em up the ass with a woden spoon.. rights he says.. how about the rights of the 3000 people these fucks helped plot to kill? those fucking assholes right there are lucky as fuck they are still breathing air, if it was up to me, or a bunch of others who feel the way i do, those fucks would be burried neck deep during low tide

and while im on this rant, Corleone fuck you 2, why do you have compassion for these low lifes? these spineless cowards attacked our great nation like a bunch of pussys, they deserve alot worse then what those pics right there are showing

:thumbsup

nap 09-21-2003 02:11 PM

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Originally posted by Nanda


That's not at all true! I have muslims friends living in this country. I respect them.Many Americans don't sterotype muslim=terrorist. Again just your ingorance speaking! However,I have no respect for the few that twist their religion around and abuse their own people. Standing up for ur country is what killing their women,
Not allowing women to show their faces? Not allowing women to get educated or see a doctor because women can't be doctors??
How do u supposed they standed up for their own country? By denying their own people human rights? By crashing planes into our country and killing innocent lives? Hm, haven't seen any Americans crashing planes into buildings and killing mnay many INNOCENT people!

i believe some innocent civilians died in the okc bombing and if memory serves me correctly it was an american who delivered the bomb.

remember this is also the same country that denied blacks the same education, public bathrooms, public transportation, ,etc etc, that whites had. you can't expect every country in the world to be on pace with the united states in terms of "human rights"

Carlito 09-21-2003 02:11 PM

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Originally posted by Furious_Female
Corleone you are an ignorant piece of shit and you need to shut the fuck up. Posting an image like that means nothing. It can be interpretted as many different things, but it doesn't state what is happening there, does it? You act like they are being beaten with whips, chained to fences, starved to death and living in their own waste. They look fairly clean and healthy to me. Post some images of Taliban prisons... I have seen pictures of the torture chambers, those fucks are outside on a sunny day, in clean uniforms, not even being touched. They are getting the same humane treatment all priosoners in the US get, maybe even better.

And if you want to think Bush is going to hell for "murder", you want to bring the Bible into this... Ok. The Bible also says "An eye for an eye". They deserve what they get, but if we inflicted upon them what they have done to our people, it wouldn't be humane. They were not defending their country, they were supporting terrorism, the same way you are. So seriously, you and them fuck off :321GFY


:thumbsup

I agree with you yet again.

- Thanks for saving me the typing time.

arial 09-21-2003 02:15 PM

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Originally posted by Corleone
sorry. they only offer hard bread to eat . no beds . and you can get beaten a few times a day if you "deserve" ; )
Watch a special on the prisons there a while back, and have no clue why you are defending them. They're living fucking great, wow that's prolly images of some fuck nuts who tried to escape or did some dumb ass shit. Maybe they are just praying no body knows except who ever was in that picture. A picture is worth a 1000 words remember? Anyway I dunno why you're defending maybe we should throw you in there too! :321GFY

BlueDesignStudios 09-21-2003 02:15 PM

Fiddy!

smack 09-21-2003 03:23 PM

http://www.trickvisuals.com/fun/guantanamo.jpg

TheFLY 09-21-2003 05:42 PM

Utopia is painfully obvious -- turn the other cheek and teach the ignorant by example...

Hating Bush won't solve anything though... pity is better

:1orglaugh

har har 09-21-2003 06:14 PM

i think its sad that bush has brain washed so many people into believing these people are terrorists.

its like when the world eventualy goes to war with america, can we hold your troops as terrorists and treat them like that? NO i hear you say? well tough shit we will anyway.

these are soldiors from a very disorginised 3rd world army(like most of the american army judging by cnn) ya'll got some junky trailer trash lookin hicks in your army

sacX 09-21-2003 06:24 PM

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Originally posted by Furious_Female
And if you want to think Bush is going to hell for "murder", you want to bring the Bible into this... Ok. The Bible also says "An eye for an eye". They deserve what they get, but if we inflicted upon them what they have done to our people, it wouldn't be humane. They were not defending their country, they were supporting terrorism, the same way you are. So seriously, you and them fuck off :321GFY
uh these people haven't been trialled, there's no way YOU can tell they are getting what they deserved.

and the bible also says 'thou shalt not kill' and that trumps eye for an eye coz it's new testament. Stop living in the dark ages furious female..

theking 09-21-2003 06:36 PM

For the most part the prisoners are from various countries around the world and are al Qaeda trained personell...some may be Taliban fighters...but they are still being sorted out. Some that were Taliban fighters have already been released and as they are sorted out there may be more Taliban fighters released.

Those that are al Qaeda may be held...and should be held...until al Qaeda as an org does not any longer exist. If this is until hell freezes over...so be it.

Loryn 09-21-2003 06:43 PM

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Originally posted by brand0n
fuck em, fuck em up the ass, fuck em up the ass with a woden spoon.. rights he says.. how about the rights of the 3000 people these fucks helped plot to kill? those fucking assholes right there are lucky as fuck they are still breathing air, if it was up to me, or a bunch of others who feel the way i do, those fucks would be burried neck deep during low tide

and while im on this rant, Corleone fuck you 2, why do you have compassion for these low lifes? these spineless cowards attacked our great nation like a bunch of pussys, they deserve alot worse then what those pics right there are showing

:thumbsup Do you know what those fucks would have done to an American Soldier. We treat them very well comparatively speaking. Half of those assholes didn't have it as good in their own country as they do in our prison.

Furious_Female 09-21-2003 06:47 PM

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Originally posted by sacX


uh these people haven't been trialled, there's no way YOU can tell they are getting what they deserved.

and the bible also says 'thou shalt not kill' and that trumps eye for an eye coz it's new testament. Stop living in the dark ages furious female..

Right and there's no way you can say they aren't getting what they deserve. If they supported terrorism, in any way shape or form, they deserve to be punished. Many people in this country are being held on suspicion and association and they all get their day in court to be found guilty or not guilty.

How do you know for sure those people never killed anyone? You don't, I don't either. My point was, if he wanted to bring the Bible into this, then I can also quote from the Bible. This is why wars happen over religion, every religion interprets the Bible differently and none of them can agree that it all means the same thing.

Ic3m4nZ 09-21-2003 06:48 PM

All what I can say is that he'll learn again when he will reelected in 2004 :1orglaugh

Loryn 09-21-2003 06:49 PM

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Originally posted by har har
i think its sad that bush has brain washed so many people into believing these people are terrorists.

its like when the world eventualy goes to war with america, can we hold your troops as terrorists and treat them like that? NO i hear you say? well tough shit we will anyway.

these are soldiors from a very disorginised 3rd world army(like most of the american army judging by cnn) ya'll got some junky trailer trash lookin hicks in your army

We do not sucker punch. You fuck with us we look you dead in the eye and say Let's roll.........

The only people who get brain washed are pessimists. It's easy to control someone who lives in fear. What do you think Saddam did? It's very apparent that his propaganda is spreading through you.....:1orglaugh

sacX 09-21-2003 06:53 PM

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Originally posted by Loryn-Adult.com


We do not sucker punch. You fuck with us we look you dead in the eye and say Let's roll.........

The only people who get brain washed are pessimists. It's easy to control someone who lives in fear. What do you think Saddam did? It's very apparent that his propaganda is spreading through you.....:1orglaugh

To me it looks as though the US administration is scared.

bhutocracy 09-21-2003 06:56 PM

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Originally posted by Loryn-Adult.com


We do not sucker punch.

depleted uranium and sanctions must be the full Marquis of Queensbury then eh?

Ice 09-21-2003 06:56 PM

My dick is hard. :Graucho

har har 09-21-2003 06:57 PM

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Originally posted by Loryn-Adult.com


We do not sucker punch. You fuck with us we look you dead in the eye and say Let's roll.........

The only people who get brain washed are pessimists. It's easy to control someone who lives in fear. What do you think Saddam did? It's very apparent that his propaganda is spreading through you.....:1orglaugh

dont give me that shit, americans are the most dishonest, dishonourable nation on the planet, they will take every advantage and shoot you in the back, YOU CANNOT PUT SOLDIORS IN JAIL BECAUSE THEY FOUGHT FOR THEIR HOMELAND UNDER GOVERNMENT ORDERS!!!! you stupid fuck

how would you feel if we took americans like that? i mean look at the crying fucking uproar about that silly lynch bitch fo fuck sake!!!

you have no idea, america wants to dominate, it wants to play by a seperate set of rules, but the tables are turning the worlds had enough, russias nukes are mobilizing, chinas 200 million strong army is mobilizing, they will take tiawan as a test but the US wont be far behind, lets see how you feel when your dignitys taken away, you have no idea on real life, you have no idea about anything outside your little protective shell except what you see through your tv!!!!

dont think your better coz it aint the truth and shit will fly, no country in the world can operate like this because every other country will get to the point where even if its suicide they will make you hurt

theking 09-21-2003 07:05 PM

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Originally posted by har har


dont give me that shit, americans are the most dishonest, dishonourable nation on the planet, they will take every advantage and shoot you in the back, YOU CANNOT PUT SOLDIORS IN JAIL BECAUSE THEY FOUGHT FOR THEIR HOMELAND UNDER GOVERNMENT ORDERS!!!! you stupid fuck


What soldiers are you referring to that are in jail because they fought for their homeland under government orders?

har har 09-21-2003 07:08 PM

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Originally posted by theking


What soldiers are you referring to that are in jail because they fought for their homeland under government orders?


the ones from the taliban in the concentration camp, and dont talk shit about the legitimacy of the regime they where fighting under because your president cheated too and has caused 100 times as many deaths

theking 09-21-2003 07:13 PM

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Originally posted by har har



the ones from the taliban in the concentration camp, and dont talk shit about the legitimacy of the regime they where fighting under because your president cheated too and has caused 100 times as many deaths

There have already been some that were Taliban fighters released and if there are more Taliban fighters they too will probably be released. Most of the prisoners are from various countries around the world and were al Qaeda trained and are not soldiers serving any government.

har har 09-21-2003 07:16 PM

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Originally posted by theking


There have already been some that were Taliban fighters released and if there are more Taliban fighters they too will probably be released. Most of the prisoners are from various countries around the world and were al Qaeda trained and are not soldiers serving any government.

do you belive everything your "fearless" leader says?

Loryn 09-21-2003 07:17 PM

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Originally posted by har har


dont give me that shit, americans are the most dishonest, dishonourable nation on the planet, they will take every advantage and shoot you in the back, YOU CANNOT PUT SOLDIORS IN JAIL BECAUSE THEY FOUGHT FOR THEIR HOMELAND UNDER GOVERNMENT ORDERS!!!! you stupid fuck

how would you feel if we took americans like that? i mean look at the crying fucking uproar about that silly lynch bitch fo fuck sake!!!

you have no idea, america wants to dominate, it wants to play by a seperate set of rules, but the tables are turning the worlds had enough, russias nukes are mobilizing, chinas 200 million strong army is mobilizing, they will take tiawan as a test but the US wont be far behind, lets see how you feel when your dignitys taken away, you have no idea on real life, you have no idea about anything outside your little protective shell except what you see through your tv!!!!

dont think your better coz it aint the truth and shit will fly, no country in the world can operate like this because every other country will get to the point where even if its suicide they will make you hurt

One word JAPAN.....................Read history. They knocked on our door, we took them down and built them up in 5 years. Japan is not the 51st state. Is it????? We will do the same for Iraq. Quite bitching and hating everything about us you pessimist. Open your eyes the truth is right in front of you.

theking 09-21-2003 07:20 PM

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Originally posted by har har


do you belive everything your "fearless" leader says?

No...but that does not change the status of the prisoners.

Loryn 09-21-2003 07:20 PM

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Originally posted by har har


do you belive everything your "fearless" leader says?

YES I DO as much as you believe propaganda!!:1orglaugh

Why 09-21-2003 07:22 PM

har har: have you read the geneva convention lately? it is indeed OK and LEGAL to detain enemy combatants, as long as they are treated well. i will agree that the prisoners in guantanamo bay may not have the best of living conditions but they could certainly be in a whole lot worse shape. at least they see the light of day. do you know how america treats thier highest level of prisoners? do a little reading on a prison in "leavenworth, kansas" and you will see they aint got it all that in the least.

as far as my outlook on the situation in general regarding the terrorist bullshit. well if someone came to my house and killed my family and friends.... id go to thiers, and kill thier mother, father, wife(s), children, and any fucking aquaintance of thiers i could find. maybe a more fitting death would be to round them all up in a house, bar them in it, and douse it with gasoline. :)

those prisoners will have thier day in court(i hope) but who knows what will happen as far as them recieving a fair trial as americas judicial system is lacking greatly.

every man or woman who has doned a US military uniform was fully aware when they put it on that they may not come home, may never see thier loved ones or thier homeland ever again. they also know that being captured by the enemy may lead to a lifetime of torture(POW/MIA;s from Vietnam learned this) but that is a risk they are willing to take. the taliban and al queda troops knew this was the case as well. the seperation is created in the fact that the american troops know that they would face a whole hell of a lot worse treatment then the enemy would.

there is a concept known as "guilt by association" these enemy combatants were fighting on the side of a losing army(the taliban) or they were members of a group that was hell bent on destroying our way of life. when they choose to be part of a group that was going to war with a fucking giant they should have weighed the risks involved. its not like it should have been a surprise to be taken prisoner. now if you run with a bad crowd you are associated with them. and consequently you will get treated like them as well.

for the rest of you fucks making judgements and speaking about "GOD" remember that judgement is his and his alone. so stfu!

Why 09-21-2003 07:27 PM

furthermore.

those of us that live in more privileged coutries dont realize how fragile life truly is. we whine and cry that civilians may be being killed. but in war that is known as collateral damage, shit happens when you walk to war. we may be fighting over there, but they brought the fight to us first, and it may come back to american soil at some point.

do realize that if it ever did come to american soil. they will not have thier media judging every move they make, they will have thier media showing thier citizens(the few that have TV) the glory of their murder and rape on american soil.

so whine and cry some more but realize that if roles were switched the happenings would be a whole fuck of a lot more brutal and violant.

people die every day for millions of differant reasons, and untill we all realize a way to get along on a global scale that war will be a FACT OF LIFE. and that in war people(guilty and innocent) will die.

and if we didnt take the fight to them, they are more then willing to bring it to us, as they have shown, and i for one say better them then i!

har har 09-21-2003 07:27 PM

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Originally posted by Loryn-Adult.com


One word JAPAN.....................Read history. They knocked on our door, we took them down and built them up in 5 years. Japan is not the 51st state. Is it????? We will do the same for Iraq. Quite bitching and hating everything about us you pessimist. Open your eyes the truth is right in front of you.


japan was over 50 years ago, dont use the word "we" because you have never experianced life out of your shell, and it wasnt just the americans who took out china, you forgot australia, england, the dutch, new zealand, new ginuea, phillipinos, malaysians.........they also helped rebuild but as with every other war, american enters late then takes all the credit.........

funny thing is they bearly win wars they start(veitnam, cambodia, somalia)

and other wars they come in late after the allies have worn the enemy down and they can go for full credit(ww1, ww2)

shut the fuck up now you have no idea, go get a clue

Furious_Female 09-21-2003 07:28 PM

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Originally posted by Loryn-Adult.com


One word JAPAN.....................Read history. They knocked on our door, we took them down and built them up in 5 years. Japan is not the 51st state. Is it????? We will do the same for Iraq. Quite bitching and hating everything about us you pessimist. Open your eyes the truth is right in front of you.

Amen!

theking 09-21-2003 07:35 PM

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Originally posted by har har



japan was over 50 years ago, dont use the word "we" because you have never experianced life out of your shell, and it wasnt just the americans who took out china, you forgot australia, england, the dutch, new zealand, new ginuea, phillipinos, malaysians.........they also helped rebuild but as with every other war, american enters late then takes all the credit.........

funny thing is they bearly win wars they start(veitnam, cambodia, somalia)

and other wars they come in late after the allies have worn the enemy down and they can go for full credit(ww1, ww2)

shut the fuck up now you have no idea, go get a clue

I may have missed something...who was talking about taking out China?

har har 09-21-2003 07:40 PM

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Originally posted by theking


I may have missed something...who was talking about taking out China?

i ment japan, as for "why" -->:321GFY :Graucho

Loryn 09-21-2003 07:40 PM

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Originally posted by har har



japan was over 50 years ago, dont use the word "we" because you have never experianced life out of your shell, and it wasnt just the americans who took out china, you forgot australia, england, the dutch, new zealand, new ginuea, phillipinos, malaysians.........they also helped rebuild but as with every other war, american enters late then takes all the credit.........

funny thing is they bearly win wars they start(veitnam, cambodia, somalia)

and other wars they come in late after the allies have worn the enemy down and they can go for full credit(ww1, ww2)

shut the fuck up now you have no idea, go get a clue

What are you talking about??? CHINA???? :1orglaugh I do believe it was Paul Tibbot's in the Enola Gay that took out Japan, not China. WE COME IN LATE AND TAKE CREDIT???? :1orglaugh Are you retarded???? We saved the French the English and half of Germany in WW2. (AND THE REST OF THE WORLD FOR THAT MATTER) Read a book. Watch the Discovery channel or A&E instead of the man show.:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Oh we also rid the world of Saddam.......................a idiot waiting to happen

Furious_Female 09-21-2003 07:40 PM

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Originally posted by har har



japan was over 50 years ago, dont use the word "we" because you have never experianced life out of your shell, and it wasnt just the americans who took out china, you forgot australia, england, the dutch, new zealand, new ginuea, phillipinos, malaysians.........they also helped rebuild but as with every other war, american enters late then takes all the credit.........

funny thing is they bearly win wars they start(veitnam, cambodia, somalia)

and other wars they come in late after the allies have worn the enemy down and they can go for full credit(ww1, ww2)

shut the fuck up now you have no idea, go get a clue

"WE" the people. "WE" the tax payers. WE as Americans pay for these wars. WE the citizens, even if not in physical combat, are still contributing by paying our taxes. WE also have more money, military power and intelligence than all of the those other countries combined, so WE take credit, where credit is due.

WE even contribute to the cause by setting the record straight about what America really stands for, not the negative criticism and ignorance other less in the know, jealous countries portray us as.

iroc409 09-21-2003 07:44 PM

hm... what about the rights of our soldiers taken prisoner?

it seems few countries around the world in the past several conflicts have taken that into consideration, but i guess nobody cares about that.

Sly_RJ 09-21-2003 07:46 PM

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Originally posted by Corleone
http://white-rose.net/images/guantanamo.jpg

just look at all those happy people. back to 1945.. Bushs little KZ on guantanamo

thats BAD.

yeah i know they're all bad talibans but they have human rights.

So what is this picture from? Who took it? What exactly is going on in the picture? When did this happen? Etc. Etc.

These are all things that need to be known before anyone can even begin to discuss it. Without FACTS and INFORMATION (context clues) a picture is pretty worthless.

For all I know, they're practicing for a new Broadway Play...


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